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Bboy100

Cro-Magnon Man
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I see way too many guys around here, particularly the newer guys who will regurgitate something Chase or some other author wrote and religiously follow it like he's some sort of a cult leader or something. Guys...believe it or not, Chase is probably wrong about some things. He's not a deity of seduction. He's not omnipotent. He doesn't have all the answers.
In fact, my experience suggests that he might be wrong about quite a few things. Moreover, even if the concept you're applying is generally correct, the specifics and context of your situation matters. So don't take what he writes to be a hard rule. EVER. There are always exceptions. Everything you read here or anywhere else are guidelines at best.

So the bottom line is...you need to trust your own experiences above all else. See: https://www.girlschase.com/content/real-empiricists-test (I know, it's ironic and even humerous that I'm telling you Chase might be wrong, but also linking an article of his to support this claim. Just roll with it!)
Stop assuming that just because Chase or another author wrote something, it's automatically true. Especially since most of what's written is anecdotal and is therefore subject to confirmation biaas and a variety of other factors which might influence the writer to assert something which is objectively wrong.

And I'm not saying Chase is wrong in all cases. In fact, he's usually right. Otherwise we wouldn't all be here. But seriously...if something seems to intuitively make no sense for your situation, or your personal experiences dictate that what he wrote is wrong. Take this into account.


Edit: If you're completely new to the game and have no experiences with women whatsoever like I was when I first started reading this stuff, then perhaps its best that you DO follow all his advice as closely as possible to begin with. This is only because so far, you have no experience at all to back up any claims you might have against his material. The only thing you could possibly have is an untested theory. Which is pretty useless in something like seduction, especially coming from someone who has no experience. But once you have any sort of experience which calls into question something Chase or someone else wrote, I highly recommend you follow the advice in this post.
 

Drck

Cro-Magnon Man
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Agreed, it's all relative, what works for one doesn't have to work for another... I wouldn't say that it is wrong, but there are also another ways to achieve the same thing...

From my experience, a guy doesn't have to sleep with a girl within the first date or two at all. There are girls that will warm up to you only after a while, they may perceive you as sexy and attractive guy, perhaps even unattainable at first... If you try to push too much (first couple of times you meet her) she will fall into auto-rejection very fast, her anxiety is too high... On the other hand, if you remain cool and go slowly so she gets used to you, perhaps even chose more friendly and non-sexual approach at first, she will eventually open up to you... I've witnessed many times that she wants to open to you but the anxiety is just too high... You sort of build confidence in her over some time by cool approach...

Another thing, sleeping with strangers, girls that you just met, may not be that enjoyable as you think vs when you sleep with a girl that developed more intimate connection with you over some time...

You can develop great vibes with a girl first before you sleep with her, the sex is then simply natural outcome of the good vibes, when both of you are comfortable enough... There is no awkwardness, she knows what to expect from you and she is ready, you don't have to push for the last 5% because it just comes naturally... If you indeed develop quality connection with a girl, she will be around for years, even while she is in serious relationship...

Quality girls are also more careful who they sleep with, some may be very excited to be around you, you can feel great vibes, but she just wouldn't sleep with you anyway, just because it is a first time she is out with you... It is silly to dump her after 3 dates and go looking for another girl, that just doesn't make sense... If you keep your value as a man, she will naturally gravitate towards you for a long time anyway...

Or you don't have to become full blown seducer to be good with girls, all you need is not even 10 % of what you read here to get a great girl... Show some heart, genuinity, present yourself as a decisive man, and you will have plenty of girls interested in you...

I could go on and on, the whole point is that it is all relative, it depends on situation, mainly on your value as a man...
 
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JimmyB

Space Monkey
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Drck I 100% agree with everything in your response. That had me hung up for a while - thinking I had "failed" somehow if I didn't close when everything was going well. But through experience I've noticed everything you mentioned to be true.
 

Shake&Bake

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I still don't believe fully that women are hornier then men. Just mostly because they have an abundance of opportunities for it and because they choose carefully.

Men on the other hand don't have an abundance. It's simple really. Also almost every seduction artist I know says that
 
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