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AFCnoob

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Summary: Would you like some fail with your fail, sir?

[Girl A] Russian [Rating: objective 6/subjective 6][Age: @ 23](closed)
[Girl B] Russian [Rating: objective 6/subjective 7][Age: @ 23](closed)

Open: m'eh

I was at a venue where I work for an event I was involved in. I was dressed in a suit and tie, with a flashy shirt, sitting with all my other "mates" also involved in the event. A 3 set came in and took the table next to ours, 3 different guys immediately jumped on the AFoG*, whom I didn't particularly like. Being in an ongoing interaction with someone else at the time, I wasn't particularly excited about talking to them, but thought: "what the hell".

[Girl A] was not thrilled when I sat down next to her and opened with some light conversation. She gave halting, bare-bones answers to my questions, and seemed a bit uncomfortable talking in English. Oh well.

Moving to another girl in the same group is always highly unadvised, in my opinion, but hey--just in it for some practice, so I started talking to [Girl B] after going away for a bit and returning with a drink. I made [Girl B] move, and sat in her seat, but she was even less enthusiastic than [Girl A]--I observed a "here we go..." look pass between her and [Girl A] (she was also high as balls on weed), so that went nowhere. The AFoG inserted herself into our interaction, intentionally making it social, and deftly pulling her friend into a conversation--at least she was nice about it.

Fair enough.

The funny thing is: while we were on stage for the event, it turned out a girl in the crowd saw me and decided she really wanted to meet me, asking one of the staff to get my information and set up a "meet". The staffer showed me a picture, and she was pretty hot, but Chinese (last entry). So the two girls I tried with went absolutely nowhere, but I got picked out instead by a girl I never even laid eyes on. Oh, the irony.

Escalation: N/A

Move: N/A

Close: N/A


[Interaction Rating]: 2

The ONE interesting thing was how very little it mattered that I got shot down on both accounts. Abundance mentality, I guess. This is included mainly because I have a policy of posting all my IR's (interactions) here, so as not to give a false, or slanted image of my success (and failure) with PU.
 

stratvm

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yes its a good idea to list all the interactions. the only ones i dont write here is with escorts though it`s funny who efficient deep diving is with them. you get absolutely genuine service with most of them after 30mins-1h deep diving.
 
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Anonymous

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Hello,

It's interesting that you mention how a girl pursued you after you were talking to those two Russians. I had a similar experience recently when I asked a very cute Mexican girl out for drinks.

I saw her sitting alone at a table, so I approached her and opened with a compliment. She took it well and we began chatting and flirting. I got her number and we set a date for drinks. After about 10ish minutes she said she had to go work and left.

After she left, a hot Indian girl came up and started flirting with me. I'm not 100% sure why it works that way, but I think your observed value increases when you're talking to women.

Weird how things work eh?

Take care,
Muffledmusic
 

AFCnoob

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@ muffled

Hey man, yeah--I didn't get a chance to reply earlier. Preselection--being seen fraternizing with (in a socially superior way), or obviously "together" with high quality girls works wonders, believe me. However, that was not the case here. The girl never saw me talking to (and getting shot down by) the two lovely ladies. She did, however, see me later without my knowledge.

I was actually looking quite good, felt good, had a great dinner, was in decent "state" after talking with my other pals. I was actually a little surprised I got shot down. Go figure, huh?
 

Chase

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Hey AFCnoob-

AFCnoob said:
I was actually looking quite good, felt good, had a great dinner, was in decent "state" after talking with my other pals. I was actually a little surprised I got shot down. Go figure, huh?

Good to see you getting back on the saddle again.

"State" has surprisingly little to do with how women receive you, you'll find. I know I've had plenty of times I've gone out feeling like I was on top of the WORLD, only to be shot down by 15 or 20 girls straight. And I've had other times when I went out feeling like absolute dreck, only to end the night by picking up some lovely young lady. I almost prefer going out in a down mood now... when you go out down, there's nowhere to go but up; when you go out already up, well...

It's worth getting out and trying things out no matter how you're feeling. It affords you the opportunity to find out how much of your success is really dependent on your emotions (not much, it turns out, so long as you continue to push and to lead and to get investment and follow your process even when out of things) and get yourself accustomed to being ready to go no matter how you're feeling - because you never quite know when you're going to see that girl that you absolutely HAVE to go meet.

Chase
 

HeartRipper

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The ONE interesting thing was how very little it mattered that I got shot down on both accounts. Abundance mentality, I guess.
Unlike approach anxiety, which you have to always beat at least for the first few interactions in the night, it is totally possible to cultivate an IDAF abundance attitude, where you genuinely do not care what happens. I will get shot down these days and it does not have the same sting it used to as a beginner.
 
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