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jdoc

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6 January 2017: Bali, Indonesia.

I matched with 22 year old Dea on Tinder. She had a flight the next morning and said that she was sad that we wouldn't be able to meet up because it was already quite late that night.

I asked if she wanted to meet up later that night, but she said that she didn't want to meet me in Kuta (where I was staying) because she wasn't confident about riding her motorbike there. I suggested meeting elsewhere, but she didn't respond to my message until around close to midnight.

Her: Halo sorry i went out from my apartment having dinner
Are u free?

Me: It's ok :)
Ya I'm free :)

Her: Where ru now
But u hve a girlfriend right?

Me: No haha
What makes you think that?
And I'm still in kuta :)

Her: I saw it on instagram haha

Me: Who?
I don't know which picture you're talking about haha

Her: U at your hotel?

Me: Yup
Where is good for you to meet?

Her: Like right niw

Me: Ok
Will you ride on your bike?

Her: No u come to my place with uber

Me: Oh ok
How far away is it?

Her: But no sex ya
Haha be friend
In denpasar

Me: Hahahaha, I never said anything about sex haha

Her: Im still talking with my friend now about my job

Me: Okay how many kilometres away?

Her: Because i met u on tinder

Me: What is the address?

Her: Can u come around 1am by uber?
I will send my uber driver to pick u up

From that conversation alone, I knew that I was gonna get laid.

I jumped on the Uber that she ordered for me and it was about a half hour ride to her place. She met me outside her apartment and greeted me at the car. She had a petite frame and a cute body. She stood at around 5'1. Her skin was tanned, and she had short hair. Turns out she'd cut off her gorgeous long hair just a couple of days ago. She definitely looked better with long hair. She looked a bit boyish with short hair - but she was still cute. Her clothing was not the most flattering - baggy pyjamas.

She invited me inside and we sat on the bed at a moderate distance apart from each other. She was an architect, a painter, and a photographer. She had a couple of her original paintings hung up on her wall. I deep dived her a bit about her paintings, what she was doing with her life, and her travels. I succeeded in making her feel comfortable by making sure that I myself was comfortable. My body language was laid back and relaxed. I put on a warm smile and threw in some laughs to keep the mood light and dispel any negative tension.

At one point I asked her where she was from. She told me that she was from Java. I whipped out my phone and told her to show me it on the map, using this as an excuse to break the touch barrier and close the distance between us. I asked to use her bathroom.

When I returned, she was sitting and leaning against the back of the bed. I went to join her. The vibe was quite comfortable. There was a big long pillow sitting between us which was a barrier for physical escalation. I continued to deep dive her some more, without diving too deep. At one point I grabbed onto her hand and held it. I held onto it for the remainder of the conversation, gently stroking her hands and fingers.

I kept the vibe light and playful. She kept on laughing at my voice, saying that I sounded like an actor. She said my voice sounded really nice, like a radio show host. She mentioned this a couple of times. I playfully pretended to be offended and told her off for teasing me. We shared a couple of laughs about it, and it was instrumental in keeping the mood comfortable and negative tension free. The sexual tension however, was palpable.

At one point I brought her hand close to my face and I gently guided her fingers through my face and my hair. I ran my lips gently over her hands before kissing them. She didn't show any signs of resistance.

At one point mid-conversation, I leaned in to kiss her forehead. It was not well received. She said, "What? You kissed me? We cannot do that, we just met today!" I playfully brushed it off. "Oh girl, are you shy? Does it make you shy when I kiss you?" I teased. She was telling me how Indonesian girls are more conservative compared to girls from the West. After more playful conversation, I leaned into teasingly kiss her head again, but she leaned way back and I didn't even connect my lips with her skin. I laughed it off and changed the topic.

I threw in a couple of chase frames throughout.
1. Her: Oh actually, I changed my mind. You do not look like you're from the Philippines. You actually look like my ex-boyfriend! He is Chinese too.
Me: [laughs] I see why you asked me come over now!
2. Me: Why did you want to meet up with me today?
Her: (evasively) Oh, I like to make new friends. I dont like to be alone.
Me: [laughs] Is that right? Is that what I am to you? A boy toy?
At one point I playfully asked her what she thought about me. I changed my tone of voice from deep and sultry to playfully sweet and cute. I asked, "So what do you think about me? Do you think I'm cute? Sweet...? Ugly...? Smelly...? Like an angel? What do you think about me girl?" She replied by saying that she thought I was really cute. I passionately rewarded by telling her that she was sweet and I landed a kiss onto her lips for a little while. She did not kiss me back.

The conversation continued and I continued to land more kisses. She still resisted a little bit, on the basis that we had just met that night. She did not even once kiss me back. I told her, "Okay girl, I'm gonna teach you how to kiss properly." She just resisted some more and told me that she didn't kiss back because we'd just met. At one point she went to the bathroom and switched off all the lights upon her return, getting us ready for bed. We cuddled in bed for a while. I was still wearing my jeans and she asked me why I didn't bring shorts (we had already agreed that I was going to stay the night on Facebook). I decided to take off my jeans because it was too hot.

We cuddled in bed facing each other for a while but she still refused to kiss me back and was avoiding my advances. My heart was beating fast, and she could tell - not good. I knew it was time to switch up my strategy.

Me: Okay sweetie... I'm gonna give you a massage... and you'll like it very much.
Her: Nooo.
Me: Come on girl! You'll like it. It'll make you feel really relaxed, and remove all your stress.
Her: Nooo. And I'm not stressed.
Me: Come on! You'll love it. Here, I'm gonna start by massaging your shoulders.

I proceeded to massage her shoulders, and received taken compliance as I began to firmly hold and massage her hands and arms. I told her to lie on her stomach 2 minutes into the massage, and I popped on my melancholic deep house and techno playlist which really contributed to a sensual vibe. I started by massaging her back before pulling her shirt up so that I could massage her properly. She complied. I thought about unhooking her bra, but I figured that it would've been counterproductive. I concluded that it would've been better to make her horny before removing her bra. I worked her back for a little bit and asked her if she was enjoying my massage. She said that she was. I sporadically kissed her back.

I then worked my way down and massaged her feet, calves and hamstrings through her loose fitting pants. I massaged very close to her pussy occasionally, and at times far away from it. I asked her whether she was enjoying her massage. She was. I worked her inner thighs a bit more before I told her I was going to remove her pants as I slid them off of her. No resistance. I worked her calves, feet and thighs some more, before focussing my hands on her inner thighs, right next to her pussy.  At one point I began rubbing the very edge of her pussy. I asked her if she was enjoying her massage. She was.

At one point she flipped over and laid on her back. I massaged her inner thighs some more before planting my face on her panties and sniffing her pussy. At this point my cock was rock hard and I moved face up to hers and thrusted my cock against her pussy. I moaned loudly.

At this point, we'd reach the point of no return, and her panties came off very easily. I dry humped her some more. At this point she wasn't very vocal or passionate, but after some more warming up, she begged me to lick her pussy. I teased her a bit.

Her: Baby... please lick my pussy.
Me: Yeah? You want me to lick your pussy?
Her: Yes... please.
Me: Yeah? I want you to beg for it. Beg me. Tell me how much you want it.
Her: Please. Please lick my pussy.
Me: Okay baby. I'm gonna lick your pussy... and then... I'm going to fuck your pussy with my cock.

I happily obliged. I teased her by licking everywhere but her pussy, before working her clit with my tongue and her pussy with my fingers. She moaned loudly. I then removed her bra and sucked on her deliciously perky nippes. They were incredible. I then popped on a condom and railed her adapted missionary for a while. We both came at the exact same time which was dope.

We then cleaned up and went to sleep. I was awoken the next morning with her hand rubbing my cock, which was sweet. We then went for round 2 before she called me an Uber back to my hostel.

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Finishing thoughts:
I think I did a good job with establishing comfort, maintaining a sexual and playful vibe, and overcoming resistance in general. The playfulness in my escalation was really useful in handling LMR. I was also very attuned to her body movements and took a step back whenever I encountered even the subtlest form of resistance when I played with her legs. I made sure not to rush her. I did well by building up taken compliance when massaging her. I frequently asked her whether she was enjoying my massage which was good. Getting her to vocalise that she was enjoying herself was helpful, and it was also compliance which made the transition into higher levels of physical escalation and the removal of clothing smoother. I think I did well with my dirty talk and dominance as well, which helped to prevent potential LMR. Overall, my vibe was playful, sexual and dominant. I successful out framed her previous mindset of not allowing guys to kiss her on the first date, as well as the idea that we were just hanging out as friends and that sex was not an option. Overall, a solid lay.

Jeffrey⁣​
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

Shadow

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Hey Jeffrey,

I've been following your reports lately and I can honestly say that you seem to be getting better and better :) Moreover, you actually seem to have established a very steady flow of women which must help loads! Just wondering if you are on a long vacation in South East Asia? You seem to be travelling around the place and having a good time...

The only thing that my eye picked up straight away was this bit:

Her: Where ru now
But u hve a girlfriend right?

Me: No haha
What makes you think that?

Think you could of answered this one a lot better - it sounds like you are qualifying to her while at the same time she subconsciously gets "women don't like him that much". Its one of those questions where there is no right answer & is a shit test usually - go for a 'non-answer' e.g. "I'm in between things right now, what about you?"

Looking forward to your next report!

Shadow
 

PrettyDecent

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A classic Jeff seduction. Loved it.

Nick
 

PrettyDecent

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Shadow,

Shadow said:
The only thing that my eye picked up straight away was this bit:

Her: Where ru now
But u hve a girlfriend right?

Me: No haha
What makes you think that?

Think you could of answered this one a lot better - it sounds like you are qualifying to her while at the same time she subconsciously gets "women don't like him that much". Its one of those questions where there is no right answer & is a shit test usually - go for a 'non-answer' e.g. "I'm in between things right now, what about you?"

Shadow

Normally you'd be right - but in this situation:

1. She's aggressively chasing already
2. Jeff is already on the low end of attainability

So going mysterious and vague here would cause her to auto-reject. Long as Jeff makes himself seem attainable and plays it casual, she's going to lead him into her bedroom herself.

But yeah, conversely, if she wasn't aggressively pursuing and Jeff was higher attainability, the non-answer would've been the right way to go.

Nick
 

Shadow

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Hey @PrettyDecent - hmm I must of missed the fact that there is a lot of pregame before the actual conversation. In the post it shows up pretty much in the beginning :) Fair enough!
 

PrettyDecent

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Shadow said:
Hey @PrettyDecent - hmm I must of missed the fact that there is a lot of pregame before the actual conversation. In the post it shows up pretty much in the beginning :) Fair enough!

jdoc said:
Her: Halo sorry i went out from my apartment having dinner
Are u free?

Me: It's ok :)
Ya I'm free :)

Her: Where ru now
But u hve a girlfriend right?

^ No pregame here. That's the part I'm talking about.

First she apologized, which is ambiguous by itself, but paired with "are u free?" means she already views Jeff as the leader in the interaction. So his attainability is already slightly low.

Then she asks again "where ru now". Asking a guy twice about logistics means she's heavily in pursuit.

You're looking at each statement in isolation, rather than how each statement interacts with each other.

Nick
 

Mr.Rob

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Jeffery,

Well done here. Sounds like she was interested in sex from the onset given the no strings attached tinder setting. You did a swell job of just going with the flow of the river here, not rushing her but still leading her towards sex and taking responsibility for the whole thing.

These situations are always interesting because you know she wants sex but can't openly admit to it for fear of seeming like a slut. You did a good job of reading her signals and not taking her resistance as anything concrete and final. It takes a while to truly build up that attitude of not putting much emphasis on resistance when you're seducing each other and instead adapting to the dance.

Haven't really been on the boards for a while so I haven't been following you. Curious how long you've been actively been working on your pimp skills for? How many lays thus far?

I assume you're either a natural that just needed some direction or you've been actively going out for some time.

Keep it pimping bro ;0

-Rob
 

jdoc

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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@Shadow, thanks for the encouragement. I've been travelling South East and East Asia since 1 October 2016. My trip finally has come to an end! I'm at the airport on my back to Melbourne as I'm typing this.

@Nickla, fantastic analysis bro.

@Rob, cheers man! And yes, at the end of the day, unless she resists very strongly, resistance should only be taken at face value. In many cases 'no' usually just means not yet.
I started learning seduction in October 2014; started off as a virgin. My progress was pretty slow for the first 2 years. I was at 2 lays throughout the entirety of 2015. I didn't start seeing results until 2016, but even then, the progress was slow from Jan to Sep. When set off to travel Asia, that's when my results sky-rocketed. I'm at 19 lays now. If we're including foreplay but no penetrative sex, I'm at 27.
 
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