FR 2 chicks back, no sex

[13829938]

I really didn't want to go out tonight. But I figured since the new forum was here, I should do something about it. And I'm glad I did. I feel my game is very close to hitting a breaking point and I'm stoked on it.

So I had a plan to go to a specific bar. But when I got there there was a fight happening outside. I snuck through but they had closed the bar because of it. So I left there and kept walking. I had an idea to go to a bar I never go to. So I went there, and it was lit. Good music and a full dance floor, lots of beautiful girls. I got there and chilled in line with a sexual vibe. I focused on being comfortable in my skin and enjoying myself. I started a conversation with a girl at the bar. Just bullshitted and started to get warmed up. Didn't hook. i talked to two milfs next to me. I came on pretty strong. I knew they were into me, but I stopped talking to them. This place was great, girls just kept coming to the bar near me. I ended up moving more towards the center of the bar. Honestly, I wanted to dance but didn't want to be dancing by myself. I'm pretty good at dancing though, so next time I will.

Two girls came next to me. I started talking to them and flirting. I've noticed as my frame gets stronger and more calm, I'm able to just bullshit more. I can almost say whatever. The conversation went well. They said they were going outside to smoke. I asked if I could join. They said yes and we went out to the patio. We started talking about astrology. One girl was really passionate and I've been learning more about it. At this point they really hooked.

I talked to them and they were having a good time. I eyed one of the milfs I had talked to earlier. At this point she clearly was interested in me. I stuck with the two girls. I ended up asking the girls if they wanted to come back and drink and smoke with me. They said "why not". We got an uber. A guy tried to take one of the girls but I handled it pretty well, gave him a little bit of shit and the girls ended up coming with me into my uber. We got back to my place and I got them drinks. We listened to music.

I found out they both had boyfriends. However they were also both young. At this point I felt a little uncertain. I didn't know if I should start escalating on one in particular. I started touching them both pretty equally. They were fine with it. It was going well. But I never really broke through to getting a really sexual vibe going. When one of the girls went to the bathroom, I tried to kiss the girl there. She seemed into it, but rejected it softly. Then I tried again, and got a lot closer. She shook her head no and I didn't try again... although maybe if I had, it would've worked.

Pretty shortly after they left.

Ultimately, I had a good time with them, but clearly didn't get what I was really hoping for. I was having a hard time heating up the vibe. Some of the touching was going really well, but I admit I never pushed it to a rejection point except when i went for the kiss. And even then, I could've tried more.

If I could go back, maybe I would just go to the milf instead of staying with the two girls. She ended up leaving alone. That would've been very easy at that point and would've been awesome sex too, cause i love milfs.

Seduction is really about strategy. I am at a good point with my game. But I need the overall strategy that lets me get the easy wins. I am interested in hearing whether or not you guys think I could've done more with the two at my place as well.

 

[cruiser]

Hey interesting field report man, I actually run into this problem lately. I’m always stuck with two girls. It feels good to lead two girls around. I haven’t found a good strategy that works yet but here are some ideas.
1) just focus in on one girl and go for her. If the friend is sticking around that means she’s approves
2) try going for both of them! Threesome!
3) get a wingman so that way you can both isolate yourself with the girl with some trusted dudes
4) get them to wingman you if anything!

I was with two girls last weekend and the other one kept pushing me to grind on her friend. That was the most that happened out of that interaction but I feel like if I played my cards a little better it could have gone to more!

 

[13829938]

Hey interesting field report man, I actually run into this problem lately. I’m always stuck with two girls. It feels good to lead two girls around. I haven’t found a good strategy that works yet but here are some ideas.
1) just focus in on one girl and go for her. If the friend is sticking around that means she’s approves
2) try going for both of them! Threesome!
3) get a wingman so that way you can both isolate yourself with the girl with some trusted dudes
4) get them to wingman you if anything!

I was with two girls last weekend and the other one kept pushing me to grind on her friend. That was the most that happened out of that interaction but I feel like if I played my cards a little better it could have gone to more!

Thanks man. I've thought about it a little more. I definitely could've escalated harder. It was more that I didn't feel comfortable escalating, which is normal in that situation, but still, gotta power through. Also I should've screened or gone home with the milf as I also mentioned. it was great practice to go out and bring two girls home, but what really matters is the lay.

 

[cruiser]

Let’s back up a second here.

#1 rule, don’t focus on the lay. Focus on the process itself the lay will come naturally then. QUOTE MR.Rob.With those two girls you were thinking about sex the whole time instead of the process. Trust me I make this mistake and I’m working on it too.

I was in the same boat as you, I was hesitant to be a little aggressive and make some power moves. I’m sure if we both escalated something would have came out of it. So it’s something for both of us to work on.

 

[13829938]

Hmm, im not sure about the process. Actually I think we were both following the process (aka being a pussy) instead of escalating. For me, they already said they had boyfriends. There were two of them. Both of these things upped my anxiety and I ended up pussing out. It's not the end of the world... for me historically GETTING the girls back is the hard part. If it was just one girl, or she was obviously single from the start, there would've been 0 problems whatsoever. But, I want to get threesomes. So these types of situations are amazing practice and really highlight what I need to work on.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

I found out they both had boyfriends. However they were also both young. At this point I felt a little uncertain. I didn't know if I should start escalating on one in particular. I started touching them both pretty equally. They were fine with it. It was going well. But I never really broke through to getting a really sexual vibe going. When one of the girls went to the bathroom, I tried to kiss the girl there. She seemed into it, but rejected it softly. Then I tried again, and got a lot closer. She shook her head no and I didn't try again... although maybe if I had, it would've worked.

Too little too late. You let the boyfriend thing get in the way. Sure, it was a barrier and you gotta be extra smooth, but think about it - they BOTH would be cheating, so they're both guilty but also safe cuz they have dirt on each other.

That takes a lot of potential guilt away, I think.

You should have either

1. Just started kissing

2. Being very verbally direct. Like as you touch both girls thighs, "You're both so fucking sexy. Have you two ever kissed before?" Then get them to kiss then you join in, etc.

Sounds like you were good 95% of the way you just didn't go full savage like you should have at the 5 yard line.

If you're going to fail that escalation, it will be spectacular cuz you get rejected in front of 2 girls, but if you make it...you're a fucking god in their eyes.

Be a savage next time.

Hector

 

[13829938]

Too little too late. You let the boyfriend thing get in the way. Sure, it was a barrier and you gotta be extra smooth, but think about it - they BOTH would be cheating, so they're both guilty but also safe cuz they have dirt on each other.

That takes a lot of potential guilt away, I think.

You should have either

1. Just started kissing

2. Being very verbally direct. Like as you touch both girls thighs, "You're both so fucking sexy. Have you two ever kissed before?" Then get them to kiss then you join in, etc.

Sounds like you were good 95% of the way you just didn't go full savage like you should have at the 5 yard line.

If you're going to fail that escalation, it will be spectacular cuz you get rejected in front of 2 girls, but if you make it...you're a fucking god in their eyes.

Be a savage next time.

Hector

Thank you man! I was thinking I should've gone hard verbally. i'm good at sex talk, and obviously, it would've been worth a try. I like the frame of spectacular rejection. Nothing to lose.

 

[13829938]

Spot on dude. The vibe was already open and trusting... they would've shared a lot. I found out right as they were leaving, literally going out my door, that they do lesbian shit all the time. So... fuck me lol.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Thank you man! I was thinking I should've gone hard verbally. i'm good at sex talk, and obviously, it would've been worth a try. I like the frame of spectacular rejection. Nothing to lose.

Always go out in a blaze of glory, my friend