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Man-O

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Introduction: Been doing pickup for ½ a year, writing my fr on a danish forum (but rly not any seasoned pu'ers there and tried out simple pickup forum too).
Read 30+ articles here (this stuff is amazingly good with its detail). Read and seen tons of other stuff but this is one of the sites that are close to what I want -> Building ones game to be a natural thing of your lifestyle. Meaning when I finally get in relationship I shouldn't be reverting back to what I was once before this started. Was a virgin (24) until I started pickup, still only one f-close. Find it hard without a flat and living by parents, and yes have read stuff of how to handle it.

1. Trouble. Fitness. - I haven't done more than a few approaches at day.
I'd like to know how one should approach in fitness and if any ppl got experience with it? So far I've only opened girls who were by-passing the water tap or were tapping water. My first decent one was: "Are you single?" (it got rly awkward as she was heading for toilet and I got high energy as adrenalin was pumping AND she turned out to be a girl I've met before on speed dating, since she arranges it).

2. N-game. Read of how strong street game is when ppl are heading home and you haven't found anything yet, so gave it a try.
Found this girl who had the vibe of looking for a lay and seemed alone outside the bar I was leaving from. She was also leaving and I catch her up with: "You also left alone by your friends?" She replies with a yes and we start talking as she akss where I'm headed and I say I'm heading for the food joint up ahead (I was just making an excuse to follow her) she then says where my jacket is and I say it's at another bar (alrdy here she has told me if I want to get in her bed that it won't happen). We then go get it and agree to stay there.
She buys the beer for us and we go into sex talk (sex toys, she was bottom-less -> she had an incident, and other stuff.) I was sitting whole the time and she started leaning in at times. I only lightly touched her with my hands on the curves etc. but she was between my legs as I sat on the stool.
The bar closes and I get my jacket, she's waiting. We head home towards her place. At some point she asks me how I get home. And I say with bus but there'll be a long time before the next arrives, I ask if I could just rest up by her place and again she says it's no go.
We finally stop in front of her apartment and we're in kind of hugging position (almost arms wrapped around each other) for 30 secs I try to convince her nothing will happen if that's what she fears by bringing me up, she repeats that she doesn't want to have me up. She then lunges in for a kiss. I think immediately that I shouldn't kiss her on the lips and pull away with only head (read an article here that it breaks tension). I then kiss her on the forehead and eject but I do see her face's expression being kind of annoyed as if she wanted me. But I was like if she was THAT reluctant then there must be an issue I don't know of, even if she wanted to have sex.

Any advice and hope it's not too much text :)
 

Whizzy

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Welcome to the board Man-O!

I would recommend starting with a compliment instead of "are you single?" at the gym. One time I went to go talk to this really cute girl when we were both leaving the gym and turned out she was the wife of the president of my university, that could have turned awkward fast! Funny enough, after that she always remembered who I was and seemed genuinely glad to see me.

Regarding the girl who you tried to go home with, you didn't seem to persist enough and were a little too obvious when you did considering she said no at first. Also when she leaned in towards you at the bar it gave you a great opportunity to get some playful touching into the mix. If she is between your legs "accidentally" place her hands on your package and see if she pulls away or not. If she does it was purely an accident anyways right ;) Also trying to convince a girl that nothing will happen usually means that the guy hopes that something will happen. She probably wanted you to keep trying, hell when she lunges to kiss dodge it...then manhandle kiss her and see what she says afterwards ;)
 

Man-O

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thx, I'll try being more direct. Finally some advice with actual detail!
Lately I've had trouble initiating with stuff like kinoing harder when I'm reaching a certain point on the escalation ladder.
And the last 3 months where I finally got opportunities to get laid every weeked like 2. trouble I miss on it due to lack of initiative and the girls end up being annoyed about it obviously.

Also kissing. As I've had too many girls rejecting a kiss or just only give a kiss and then you hear nothing from them have lead me to enhance my tension game, which makes me reluctant to kiss at all :/
 
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