FR 200 Approaches in 30 Days (Results)

[Gentle_Phrases]

Sup guys!

In the past 30 days, I've done 200 approaches; I made time to go out, rather than update you all here because I've been having doubts about pick up and didn't want to drape the boards with whining and complaints. My results were 6-7 numbers (wow, that seems low), 4 of which responded and yet none were interested in a day 2 date. However, I got 4 I-dates. Here are the full texts, followed by a summary of my experiences. Please critique/let me know if you see any glaring errors...:

Girl A - the "kids" she refers to aren't hers. Also this was after an instant date







Girl B





Girl C - Texted me first because I didn't have my phone on me during the initial convo. I was so surprised she was enthusiastic about swapping digits with me...Something made me suspicious she wanted a texting buddy though.









Girl D - She didn't respond to my first opening text (not shown) until six days later. I debated responding at all.









Summary

Well you guys, Girl A is my first ever and only date agreement (and subsequent flake) from cold approach. The only dates I've been on from cold approach in the past 200 approaches are I-dates. Four to be exact. One was as about four hours. Towards the end she was upset with me for not staying out past when the trains home would stop running. I could have maybe found a cab later...didn't think it was worth it though, due to zero logistics. I didn't ask for her contact info because she seemed so pissy and I sensed it would be a future flake.

On an I-date with another girl I playfully told her to give me a kiss on the cheek as we hugged at the end of our 1 hour tea date.

She couldn't stop laughing at me. According to her,

"You can't just tell someone to do that!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

In the end I rolled my eyes, held her hand, said "Fine, c'mere!! " and gave her a cheek kiss instead. I deleted her contact info once she was out of sight. I think she just enjoyed my conversation and attention.

Funny Story About the Tea Instant Date

Later, I walked past a large mixed gender group that had been there when I stopped the girl I went to tea with. They asked what happened, since they "could tell I was flirting" and the ladies mentioned they were joking that "we'd come back in a year and see you two married" and that they saw us "walk off together." I told them that we went on a date for an hour. The guy looked at me with some serious pride in his eyes, like he was saying "well done, son." The two women were just like "holy shit!" except with only their faces.

They thought I was working magic.

I'm only an entertainer.

Fffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

What This Has Taught Me

All these rejections in such a short time have obliterated my ego. I now know my "true value" in the market place is pretty low. It makes me wonder, maybe I'm delusionally/unwittingly approaching out of my league? Any of you got thoughts there? I would think at least one day 2 date from 200 approaches...I mean, besides approaching strangers, there can't be a better way to get some objective opinions. Am I a gamma? NOOOOOOO!OO!!O!O!O!1111111

Also, I apparently give off an "I do this all the time" vibe. Many times, younger girls would ask me

"do you just talk to people like this all the time?"

or something like that.

On the bright side, a few times, older women 23-27 actually told me "

Wow, I'm impressed." or "You're really smooth.."

once I went for contact info. Of course, they had boyfriends or were engaged so maybe they were just being nice, LOL. Thanks older chicks!

I'll do a thousand more approaches before considering a monastery or something.

So what should I do now?

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Welcome to the grind.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

But really, if you're getting the "entertainer vibe" and oscillating between "smooth" and girls not taking you seriously, your vibe is not nearly sexy enough. I know that your percentages seem shitty, but if you stop now and return to your former life, will you gain much? Doubting pickup is doubting the process, and doubting the process is important, because this should be half scientific (and half intuitive).

Keeep onnn grinddinn'.

Let me humble the process for you. In Europe, I couldn't do too many approaches since I was with my dad, but I probably did 15 day approaches and 30 night approaches. Only got laid from 1 day approach (that same day) and laid 3 of the night approaches. Remember - asymmetric returns.

I just spent all day drinking with some very hot girls. Smoked in isolation with one I had previous made out with (and could have laid last year, but wasn't assertive enough), but a friend joined before I could escalate. Besides that, I got one number, which probably won't go anywhere. And everyone else? 99% of the guys didn't get shit. In fact, only people that are fucking right now are the people who were already dating.

Sometimes, you fuck up. And sometimes (a lot of times), they just don't want yo dick. Find out what you're fucking up. If you look at your whole experiment as a blanket failure, you will discourage yourself beyond belief and stop right before you start getting good. See each approach as a separate experiment and surely your outlook will brighten.

 

[Gentle_Phrases]

I know that your percentages seem shitty, but if you stop now and return to your former life, will you gain much?

I agree with you here, mate. I'd go insane/be bitter.

Also thanks for the motivational video, lol. No wonder you're killing it.

your vibe is not nearly sexy enough

It sucks to suck.

Thank you for the motivation man. It's no wonder most people quit this stuff though. I just did 4 approaches and couldn't even bother trying to number close, lol. My ego needs some rest.

 

[Mr.Rob]

This is really inspiring G_P. Even though you didn't get any crazy results you still went out and improved yourself and apparently learned alot. The way you write is a bit more gritty and grisled like you're starved for something (sex with pretty women), which I think is a good thing. I get the drift your slightly a different man than you were 200 approaches ago and that in itself is an awesome result to have.

It seems to me that you are too deep in this to quit now.

I have to agree with Anatman in the fact that it would appear your fundamentals aren't in order enough to make you appear as being hugely sexy. Though you can improve on this quite a bit as you know. Keep chipping away!

Sasha Daygame (though perhaps not the greatest mentor we have) has talked about in the past how when he started he didn't know jack about approaching and would go approach like 20-30 girls a day (daygaming) and get minimal results but he just kept hammering away and now (if you believe him.. which I do) he is a bold seducer... and he's not really the sexiest guy walking around town either he's just made his personality work for him with what he has (he's an entertainer).

I think you got this dude there's obviously one area where you're going wrong (that none of us can really pin point) and I think once you figure out exactly where that is you'll be killing it and make some stellar progress.

Keep up the reports G_P!

-Rob

 

[Franco]

GP,

I just noticed this one and, given the effort to actually screenshot all of these text conversations (and edit them), I felt like chiming in and helping you out seemed appropriate. =)

Girl A:

• Given that you had a 1:00 pm date, I would have sent her a text rather early in the morning (possibly between 9 am and 10 am) checking if the date was still on. I actually handle this whole "date-setting-up" procedure a bit differently now... the first texts I'll use to set up the time, but then I won't confirm the location until I send the reminder text of the date on THAT day. If she asks, "where do you want to meet?" in the initial conversation, you can just reply with: "I'll find us a good place when I get some time and get back to you later "
  
  That way, you can text her the morning of with a somewhat-expected text (by letting her know the location) without seeming like you're worried about the status of the date (by asking if you two are still "on" for the date).
  
  It seems like your mistake here might have been that she got the jitters since the date was less than three hours away and she hadn't heard from you, so she leaned toward protecting her reputation first and foremost in case you were going to stand her up.

Girl B:

• - Don't start a text to a girl you're interested in with "Yo." That's what I say to my guy friends. =)
  
  - Your "bet" thing and short-hand texting was a bit confusing... I think you had her intrigued, but then it just fell flat because she couldn't understand what you were saying. Make sure your words are clear!
  
  - Your intent is lacking some directness. You say, "we can have lunch," but that's rather weak as opposed to what a strong, confident man would say: "We should grab lunch together, Rebecca "
  
  - The chances are probably lower than higher on this one, but you can hit her up the following week and see if she has free time

Girl C:

• This one was going pretty damn well, and then you flubbed up on your directness again (even worse this time) with the following statement: "You free round 9?"
  
  She doesn't know what you want, so you're essentially trying to trap her into something before she knows what she's committing to. Luckily, this one gave you a break and asked "why?" Some will just say they aren't free to prevent themselves from being sucked into something they don't want to be a part of.
  
  I'm not sure why you ended this one here. This girl was giving you good investment over the phone; it would probably be worth sending her a more direct text asking her to join you for a drink (or coffee/yogurt/etc.)

Girl D:

• Haha... you need to read your texts before you send them, bud! I have several other friends who just start slamming keys and press "Send" before they even see what they wrote. Always double-read texts before you hit that "Send" button!
  
  Did you not try asking this girl again for the date? You two got completely off topic and then just ended the conversation. She might have been dodging the question because she wasn't interested, but it's hard to tell without re-asking.

Summary:

Anyway, these are just assessments of your text conversations. As far as your actual approaches, it could be that your fundamentals need some work or that your openers and/or conversation flow need tweaking (as was already mentioned), but you would need to provide examples of those for more detailed help in that department.

I would certainly make sure you are being more direct in your invitations to dates. I think you might have lost a couple of these due to indirectness. Women love when guys are extremely clear and direct about their intentions because not only is it more confident, but it prevents the girl from having to think about whether or not you're luring her into something she doesn't want to do. She knows exactly what you want right from the get-go.

Also, make sure to double-check what you're sending girls before you send it! Guys often don't realize the importance of each text that is sent (and I think many guys undervalue how important good texts are), and that can cost you a few interactions if the girl starts to become skeptical of your intentions (or simply just annoyed by your lack of clarity).

It's good to hear you were able to make so many approaches, though! Make sure to really try to analyze some of the longer interactions and find out where you made mistakes.

- Franco

 

[Gentle_Phrases]

Rob

Thanks as always for the encouragement man! Get out there and do some damage Rob. I want to read more of your LRs

It seems to me that you are too deep in this to quit now.

For real, bro. Way down that rabbit hole

Sasha Daygame

Oh God lol. Yes, that might be my future. I'd hope more for a James Marshall approach. By the way, have you seen Sasha's three questions kiss video? Hilarious!

Franco

I felt like chiming in and helping you out seemed appropriate. =)

Hey, thank you for taking the time to analyze these! I appreciate it!

It seems like your mistake here might have been that she got the jitters since the date was less than three hours away and she hadn't heard from you, so she leaned toward protecting her reputation first and foremost in case you were going to stand her up.

Wow, just wow. Yes, Franco, I did think about sending her confirmation. Want to know something funny? I already drafted the message and planned to send it at 11. I'll try out your delayed location method/confirmation a few hours before from now on.

Don't start a text to a girl you're interested in with "Yo."

Gotcha

Your intent is lacking some directness...you flubbed up on your directness again....I would certainly make sure you are being more direct in your invitations to dates

I didn't realize that I was being that vague. Thank you for the perspective, Franco.

Also, make sure to double-check what you're sending girls before you send it!

My mistake there couldn't have been more perfect. "Ghetto food." Unbelievable.

She might have been dodging the question because she wasn't interested, but it's hard to tell without re-asking.

Yes, I was thinking the same as you, that she was dodging the question because she wasn't interested. I can also see your point that she might have been waiting for me to ask again. I was worried about "chasing" her, especially since she waited so long to text me back. I deleted all these girls' numbers, so...gotta start from scratch

(In reference to girl C) This one was going pretty damn well... This girl was giving you good investment over the phone...I'm not sure why you ended this one here

I thought a lot about this interaction. I have to confess to you, just to shame myself into following the right process next time. You'll probably cringe as you read this: I freaked out when she was giving such positive responses. I kept wondering, "why is she doing that, is she toying with me? Is this normal??" That and I found her very attractive so it threw me off hardcore. I sent that text "you free round 9" hoping for a "no" and I was so happy when she said she was occupied. After that I could rationalize that she wouldn't want to meet up with me and I deleted her number. Not sure if I sabotaged because I was afraid to win or afraid to lose. Maybe both. *In the moment it didn't feel like this. In retrospect this is exactly what happened.*

I'll feel the doubt and do it anyway, next time.

Thanks again, Franco

 

[Mr.Rob]

Yes G_P Sasha's three questions kiss video was pretty baller.

Check out my upcoming FR w/infield footy. If they can do it so can I!

 

[Marty]

GP, I've read this through several times but I'm not in a position to contribute anything useful, except to say that 200 approaches in 30 days is (to me) simply awe-inspiring. It has taken me 10½ months to get near 200 approaches (and I'm still short by 4 girls as of today).

You're a very hard worker, GP! I'm certain it'll start paying off in due course.