2020 was the most inconsistent, worst year i ever seen for seduction, but, what did you accomplish?

[Whiteheart]

Thanks for this post @Skills. For me 2020 was difficult, I was frustrated a lot but I am happy because I gained some experience. This was the year I was most active in seduction since I started and results were mixed to negative. I used daygame, online apps and social circle.

Postive things were:
-Did hundreds of daygame cold approaches (by this I mean opening girl and try to reach hook up point)
-Reached few hook up points with cute girls during daygame (without instant date but conversations were good)
-Got few instant dates during daygame
-Got one instant date followed by clasic (mostly friend zoned) date during daygame
-Improved theorethical knowledge about pick up and seduction and a lot of things are more clear for me now than they were before
-Reduced approach anxiety
-Corresponded with cool people from GirlsChase site and this forum
-Got some experience with online dating i.e. girls finally started to respond to my texts
-Read interesting books about psychology, novels, etc.
-Did a lot of things foccused on my college
-Did sport and improved my condition

Negative things were:
-Most of cold approaches went nowhere due to fact that I am not skilled enough and fact that girls where I live meet, date and sleep with people mostly from social circle and are clossed off and unreceptive for cold approach no matter who you are, what you do and if she is attracted or not. So I was frustrated a lot because generally I can't meet girls I like and get some sort of date with them due to their unreceptiveness and suspicious
-Did not get any date from dating apps
- I was flaked few times from girls that seemed interested when we meet, and I couldn't reverse it
-One girl I meet through social circle was not quality and was not much interested in me either
-I spend a lot of time on pick up and seduction and that wasted my energy and demotivated me to continue further, especially because I didn't get laid
-Some other duded who invested much, much less energy in this got laid because as I said that girls here are mostly focussed on social circle. Girls here rather prefer to sleep with boyfried of their friend just because they know him than to get out of their comfort zone and find someone for themselfes i.e. to be ready to be approached by unknown men. This things also frustrated me because I did hundreds of approaches

To sum up: positive things were that I improved theorectical and practical experience with women and progressed in other aspects of life. Negative things were that I was frustrated a lot.
Hope that 2021 will be better year than previous and I wish that all of us will have much better love life than in previous year!

 

[jackal2020]

@Skills this is a great idea for the post. Cheers to everyone for sharing.

Positives:

• Professional success: finished school and loving my first job. I got so lucky.
• Girlfriends: Had my 2nd and 3rd girlfriends in 2020. They were both exactly my type physically, and even better, were kind, considerate, intelligent people on top of that. A few flings as well.
• Cold approach: started doing this for real. It is thrilling to walk around town knowing you have the tools and experience to find someone you're crazy about.
• "Intellectual Abundance." I know intellectually that there are tons of AWESOME girls out there. I don't yet "feel it in my gut", though this seems like a solid first step.
• Time with old friends and family. It was special to spend time with parents and siblings as adults. There will come a time a long time from now (I hope) when inevitably, one of us will die. Though we got a bit sick of each other now, we'll treasure those moments when that day comes.

Negatives:

• Broken heart.
  • Break up in the first few weeks of lockdown. That made for a very difficult, isolated spring.
  • A lot of feeling helpless and option-less amplified by the lockdown.
  • The break up was so painful that I felt as though my heart would explode. This occurred for two weeks.
• An ever-present and ever-increasing awareness of the temporariness of youth and life.
  • Being locked down oftentimes made me feel as though the days were wasted, like water draining from a tub.
  • The fleeting nature of life becomes particularly upsetting when you can't spend that life the way you want.
• Disruptions from COVID.
  • Felt as though a few months (namely April & May) were 'wasted'
  • Big plans to travel and explore, lots of fun things were destroyed by COVID.

I've had set-backs in the past, and they have provided fuel and fire to live well in the future. There is a lot to look forward to, and a lot to fight for right now.

May your 2021 be a good one!

 

[Skills]

Positives

• 14 new lays (good for covid but down on my 2 years previous; 25 in 2019, 21 for 2018), all from tinder though..
• Maintained MLTR I met October of 2019 throughout the year; kinky relationship, barely any negatives. Maintained frame.
• MLTR flew me out to her homecountry for a holiday, after leaving due to covid.
• Leveled up my understanding of game especially in open relationships; managed jealousy aswell. Learnt alot about what I require in a partner and my own tolerance for relationships.
• Started cold approaching in September, surprisingly found I had very little AA.
• Know myself better than I ever have; discovered purpose and have a solid sense of direction in my life.
• Have solid goals and a clear plan for 2021; covid or no covid.
• Stayed lean throughout covid, even built some muscle with calisthenics.

Negatives

• Brokest I've ever been in my life; jobless.
• Intended to replace tinder with cold approach; that flopped when making money became urgent, and new lockdowns began.
• [EDIT] 0 lays from cold approach..

Overall a good year I wont lie. Despite not having money and being locked down, the introspection and reflection has been top notch. I've learnt alot about myself, and digested a lot of game, knowledge and wisdom.

topcat a lot of people are broke (i do mortgages so i have access to people financial lives, even "rich" people are struggling in some sectors, it is just bad, so don't beat yourself up for that... Also i advocate cold approach, but remember the community though was created based on cold approach due to online was "not mainstream" now online/tick tok/instagram is mainstream, so it is getting on par with cold approach, the advantage of cold approach is hitting above the belt (you can have access to a higher caliber girl, the thrill adventure, challenge side is adrenaline pumping, but the risk reward is slowly coming down imho for guys that don't care much about those things)

 

[Skills]

• Studied tonnes of pick-up/seduction/game material and through field experience sorted through what works better than other stuff
• Realized that besides pick-up theory, through practice, i was extremely good at developing my own techniques and small tips and picking up cues. Now, alot of the time, when i read about daygame tips i'm amused at how i'm just sitting there like "Wow! I do that and i never read about it!" I remember one article by Karea where i hit like 80-90% of his bulletpoint tips.
• Autumn crisis did lead me to rethink my style and lead to alot of improvements

Overall 2020 was the year i finally started doing cold approach pick-up and i'm happy for that. Lots of happiness but also alot of pain. Also, if i put in the work and the hours, i can get dates and lays (putting in work pays off, putting off work doesn't pay off). I suspect it is only gonna get easier from here on. That is a nice thought.

^ the best way to see what works for you is to field test everything couple of times with an open mind, somethings work better for some guys, some things work better for others... You are doing good....

 

[Skills]

Great thread! It does help level-set seeing how everyone is doing and make expectations realistic.

Positives:

1. Found way to significantly reduce anxiety. It's been a life changer.
2. Momentum in my side hustle (finance) after years of procrastinating.
3. Saving decent amount of money.
4. Working on plan for early retirement (lol) by generating more income streams and saving more. Goal of $2M in cash-producing assets, trying to get to half of that or more in 5 years.
5. Better-read in seduction tech and I have more conductive mindsets.
6. Hustling to get another promotion and got one interview for a higher position so far. 50/50 odds I get it, I think.
7. Spent more time with family due to telecommuting.
8. Realized I am totally fine being alone. I learned to appreciate it, especially the lack of drama lol.
9. Strongest I've ever been in weight lifting.
10. Been in warm weather for better part of year lol.
11. Growing out my hair again, which I missed.

Negatives:

1. Near-zero momentum in picking up girls. Had good momentum months ago but the lockdowns killed it. Day game prospects, which were already bad, got worse.
2. Even though I got stronger, I also got fatter.
3. Made some risky financial decisions that blew up in my face. Sorta broke even but would have more money in my pocket if I played it safe.
4. Social skills are rusty. The isolation has gotten to me in this regard.
5. There aren't as many jobs in my company to move up to. Slim pickings and opportunities to move up. Got rejected 9 times out of 10. Got only one interview out of it.
6. My side hustle is struggling. I am not profitable still.
7. Since living with family, I have less freedom to go out as I please without them asking questions and stuff. Makes picking up girls more difficult. Don't have my own car either. I'm "subletting" it for extra cash lol.
8. Growing out long hair, which people told me looks bad on me lol.
9. Family money problems are dragging my finances down somewhat.

Overall, year has been decent. Not too bad but not the best either. I give it a "meh". Lol.

^ Though i advocate to stay home to save money, in your case is different cause it seems you have one of those stricked parents, and you are going to need money for that (maybe a roomate/roomates) and you definetly need a car unless you are in cities like new york where is not needed...

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

The way with how the year played out in retrospective was terrible but I have found myself to atleast have some sort of footing. I feel disappointed, the world has atleast gone to shit in a massive way, *(I'm still predicting that there has to be some sort of gigantic economic fall out and this isn't the worst of what is yet to come.)

I feel at twenty six that I am not where I wanted to be at with my life. I was expecting to be on alot better path, but for now I'm continuing along. I'll throw my verbotage.

Positives

• I bought a new classic car, I'm surprised at how much of a quality of life thing that has actually been. I've never been extremely wealthy by any stretch of the imagination and have never been on vacation or even had time off of work. I'm hoping this does something to at least jump start some enjoyment into my life.
  
  
• Found a new job, When this pandemic started I was stranded while everybody else was safe at home and I still am bitter about it to this day. I'm glad to be working where I'm at now, more potential for money in the future.
  
  
• Taking evening classes upgrading my skills
  
  
• Richest unironically *(I took a big paycut switching jobs) from stocks. Thank god if I didn't manage my investments as well as I did I would definitly be broke.

Negatives

• Game wise; Stood up on dates, *(And I am more now then a couple months ago pressed for time as I've become increasingly busier.) I'm disappointed in that regard quite abit, I feel that there is an overton window that has closed in on me being twenty six turning twenty seven that has closed. At this exact second I feel that the chicks I'll be seeing/sleeping with will from here be on a huge decline due to my financial situation and lifestyle.
  
  
• I'm not that happy with my job, low pay and shitty grunt work
  
  
• Not able to go lift at the gym

 

[Skills]

@Skills this is a great idea for the post. Cheers to everyone for sharing.

Positives:

• Professional success: finished school and loving my first job. I got so lucky.
• Girlfriends: Had my 2nd and 3rd girlfriends in 2020. They were both exactly my type physically, and even better, were kind, considerate, intelligent people on top of that. A few flings as well.
• Cold approach: started doing this for real. It is thrilling to walk around town knowing you have the tools and experience to find someone you're crazy about.
• "Intellectual Abundance." I know intellectually that there are tons of AWESOME girls out there. I don't yet "feel it in my gut", though this seems like a solid first step.
• Time with old friends and family. It was special to spend time with parents and siblings as adults. There will come a time a long time from now (I hope) when inevitably, one of us will die. Though we got a bit sick of each other now, we'll treasure those moments when that day comes.

Negatives:

• Broken heart.
  • Break up in the first few weeks of lockdown. That made for a very difficult, isolated spring.
  • A lot of feeling helpless and option-less amplified by the lockdown.
  • The break up was so painful that I felt as though my heart would explode. This occurred for two weeks.
• An ever-present and ever-increasing awareness of the temporariness of youth and life.
  • Being locked down oftentimes made me feel as though the days were wasted, like water draining from a tub.
  • The fleeting nature of life becomes particularly upsetting when you can't spend that life the way you want.
• Disruptions from COVID.
  • Felt as though a few months (namely April & May) were 'wasted'
  • Big plans to travel and explore, lots of fun things were destroyed by COVID.

I've had set-backs in the past, and they have provided fuel and fire to live well in the future. There is a lot to look forward to, and a lot to fight for right now.

May your 2021 be a good one!

^ Getting your heart broken and going through that experience couple of times is CRUSIAL element to get Icey, as it keeps happening you will be like getting rejected from opening, it won't even face you.... I just broke up, and it was like nothing, i was relieved, eventually you will get there...

 

[Train]

^ i don't remember if you are the dude for the chelsey post, yeah i would do something about the hair (if that was you), also i would try to gain weight, and hit the gym (assuming that was you, i don't remember).... Though i advocate to stay home to save money, in your case is different cause it seems you have one of those stricked parents, and you are going to need money for that (maybe a roomate/roomates) and you definetly need a car unless you are in cities like new york where is not needed...

Oh I think you mean @Rain. Our names are similar lol

 

[Skills]

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

I don’t think there could be a better way to describe my 2020. I was able to create some positives, and my comprehension of social dynamics was completely reinvented. On the other hand, unforeseen challenges fought me in a way that I hadn’t been fought before. I have to be happy with my progress overall, however – especially in seduction.

Positives:

• Entered the seduction community. This breathed life into a disrupted mind. I grew up conservatively, and I was never exposed to the correct solutions about sex or society at large. As a result, I had derivative but falsely premised conceptions about what sex meant, what relationships meant, and my place within these spheres. It took me a long time to peel away these ideas – basically from my first exposure to GirlsChase until I began cold approaching in late August – and you may have noticed that some of these ideas still exist within me. But now, my experiences have proven that I’m on the right path, even if the mileage to the final destination bears no reading.
• Met everyone here. For me, this is completely different than the first point. I haven’t said this before, but I’ll say it now. When I first started my journal, I didn’t expect ANYONE to EVER respond. Ever. I thought that it would just be me releasing thoughts to myself. And it was that, but it was so much more, too. The support that I received was simply unfathomable. To see the best seducers in the game help me more than anyone ever has in real-life felt like a truly otherworldly experience.
• Earned my first seduction results. I started approaching girls and matched my past experiences within a few weeks. Had the lay. Honestly, I should have had a few more, too. But those mistakes are just a part of the process, and now I feel influential with the opposite sex.
• Away from seduction, I was able to create a decent amount of savings due to working multiple jobs. It was straining alongside university studies, and I rarely operated with decent energy levels. But it’s nice to know that I’m in an okay position for the time being. Also made a few good investments in the stock market.
• Did what was necessary academically.

Negatives:

• There was that legal situation. Whatever though, because it just became a piece of my developmental process. Justice was served in the end. Or at least in the lawful sense anyway. Karma is a whole other animal.
• Battled illness during the latter months of the year. A series of throat infections followed by mononucleosis. It took time away from the field, disrupted my momentum, and made my life more difficult than necessary.
• Began watching porn in July. Prior to this point, I had never seen tits or pussy on a backlit screen before. That was a very good thing. And now I see how much of a bad thing it is now that I have. I never reached the multiple-times-per-day level of addiction, but I have seen enough negative effects to know that it must stop. I saw Chase mention an application called FocusMe, and I’ve since been using it to block all explicit web content apart from the seduction-related websites that I’ve whitelisted. My masturbation needs to decrease as well, although it’s a problem that might be easily resolved if I can master the dry orgasm.
• Became uncertain about my dream career despite making tons of progress in this area, which is also related to one of my jobs. This has led to a lot of internal conflict, but I know it’s for the better. I’ll find a more rewarding career path. Maybe this is actually a positive!

Having an improved sex life, or really beginning my sex life, was my focus for 2020 that was initiated during the lockdown months.

And once I returned to school in late August, I did it. There wasn’t a slew of lays. But rather, it was an eventful few months that laid the foundation for a prosperous future. I believe it’s only a matter of time before I overcome the beginner’s inertia.

What I listed as negatives… that’s life. So be it. I made mistakes and realized things. Actually inducing change in my life, though?

Yeah, I’ll take that any day of the week, month on the calendar, or year in reflection.

Lofty, you are an inspiration, not only are you really good at technical game, you such a humble/good person... Most guys when they start getting success become very egotistical, gossipy, shit talkers, like women.... You manage to have a very humble demeanor, is attractive, and they way and effort you put in your journal and the way you break down and remember interactions is amazing... You remind me of bacchaus when he was starting... it is funny how some seducers are mini versions of other people for example you are mini version of bacchaus, bacchaus was a mini version of teevester, glow a mini version of cosy, velasco have some similarities to me etc... Keep up the good work...

 

[Skills]

Oh I think you mean @Rain. Our names are similar lol

lol fuck my life, let me delete it my bad

 

[Skills]

The way with how the year played out in retrospective was terrible but I have found myself to atleast have some sort of footing. I feel disappointed, the world has atleast gone to shit in a massive way, *(I'm still predicting that there has to be some sort of gigantic economic fall out and this isn't the worst of what is yet to come.)

I feel at twenty six that I am not where I wanted to be at with my life. I was expecting to be on alot better path, but for now I'm continuing along. I'll throw my verbotage.

Positives

• I bought a new classic car, I'm surprised at how much of a quality of life thing that has actually been. I've never been extremely wealthy by any stretch of the imagination and have never been on vacation or even had time off of work. I'm hoping this does something to at least jump start some enjoyment into my life.
  
  
• Found a new job, When this pandemic started I was stranded while everybody else was safe at home and I still am bitter about it to this day. I'm glad to be working where I'm at now, more potential for money in the future.
  
  
• Taking evening classes upgrading my skills
  
  
• Richest unironically *(I took a big paycut switching jobs) from stocks. Thank god if I didn't manage my investments as well as I did I would definitly be broke.

Negatives

• Game wise; Stood up on dates, *(And I am more now then a couple months ago pressed for time as I've become increasingly busier.) I'm disappointed in that regard quite abit, I feel that there is an overton window that has closed in on me being twenty six turning twenty seven that has closed. At this exact second I feel that the chicks I'll be seeing/sleeping with will from here be on a huge decline due to my financial situation and lifestyle.
  
  
• I'm not that happy with my job, low pay and shitty grunt work
  
  
• Not able to go lift at the gym

^ you have the wrong mindset, i don't know what else to make you guys believe that, this is total bullshit, i done a million posts with evidence that there is not such thing, yesterday i am 46 i was with a hot 25 year old 8, the idea that you are 26 and is over is total crap, bullshit, bro i got laid the most at my 30s got more lays than all the lays of all the guys reporting lays here put together... Stop with a none sense, i am surprised that you have such kj believe out of all people, come on... Total bullshit...I mean how many threads do we have to make with evidence that is bs...

 

[Skills]

Thanks for this post @Skills. For me 2020 was difficult, I was frustrated a lot but I am happy because I gained some experience. This was the year I was most active in seduction since I started and results were mixed to negative. I used daygame, online apps and social circle.

Postive things were:
-Did hundreds of daygame cold approaches (by this I mean opening girl and try to reach hook up point)
-Reached few hook up points with cute girls during daygame (without instant date but conversations were good)
-Got few instant dates during daygame
-Got one instant date followed by clasic (mostly friend zoned) date during daygame
-Improved theorethical knowledge about pick up and seduction and a lot of things are more clear for me now than they were before
-Reduced approach anxiety
-Corresponded with cool people from GirlsChase site and this forum
-Got some experience with online dating i.e. girls finally started to respond to my texts
-Read interesting books about psychology, novels, etc.
-Did a lot of things foccused on my college
-Did sport and improved my condition

Negative things were:
-Most of cold approaches went nowhere due to fact that I am not skilled enough and fact that girls where I live meet, date and sleep with people mostly from social circle and are clossed off and unreceptive for cold approach no matter who you are, what you do and if she is attracted or not. So I was frustrated a lot because generally I can't meet girls I like and get some sort of date with them due to their unreceptiveness and suspicious
-Did not get any date from dating apps
- I was flaked few times from girls that seemed interested when we meet, and I couldn't reverse it
-One girl I meet through social circle was not quality and was not much interested in me either
-I spend a lot of time on pick up and seduction and that wasted my energy and demotivated me to continue further, especially because I didn't get laid
-Some other duded who invested much, much less energy in this got laid because as I said that girls here are mostly focussed on social circle. Girls here rather prefer to sleep with boyfried of their friend just because they know him than to get out of their comfort zone and find someone for themselfes i.e. to be ready to be approached by unknown men. This things also frustrated me because I did hundreds of approaches

To sum up: positive things were that I improved theorectical and practical experience with women and progressed in other aspects of life. Negative things were that I was frustrated a lot.
Hope that 2021 will be better year than previous and I wish that all of us will have much better love life than in previous year!

^ you are putting the work, but whatever you are doing in person, online etc... is not working, so you are coming out with FAKE conclusions and assumptions, such as the "social circle" type of claims etc... the good thing is that you eliminated your approach anxiety...Also you are losing women in the mid point and getting flake, this is may be due to texting.

 

[Skills]

I'm embarassed to post this just because i'm so wack at seduction/game rn compared to everyone else ,but I need some accountability from others because I can't hold myself accountable. Also I figure this adds some diversity to this thread lol

Positives:

• Did first few cold approaches ever.
• Was able to save up a lot of money because of pandemic. Most of my savings now is unemployment saved from lockdown.
• This money gave me the financial security to finally hire a mentor to help me work on my inner game and have someone to confide in and help me grow.
• Hit some prs in lifting at the gym

Negatives

• Struggled with depression for much of the year. Pretty common for everyone because of what was happening.
• Struggled with porn addiction because I was chasing easy effortless dopamine instead of progress with women. This addiction lead to other bad side effects such as depression, low self esteem, social anxiety etc.
• Had a lot of bad mental models regarding myself and women. Bitterness, negativity,self fufilling prophecy. Thinking i'm not good enough, I can't get women cuz I suck ,they don't want me etc. Really crappy inner game.
• Lazyness, lack of motivation,uninspired to really try and expand my comfort zone. Reading how other skilled seducers struggle with game/getting results because of the pandemic discouraged me from even leaving my house to try. If these guys can't get women to meet up what chance do I have? I thought the guys getting results are living in more relaxed areas where women are down to meet up and fuck despite covid
• Didn't try to improve my career. Was lazy in that as well.
• Struggled to find a personal identity
• Didn't get any pussy

2020 wasn't all bad for me,but looking back I certainly could've put more effort into improving my life. Being surrounded by too many normies at work also drags me down too. The females want to discuss politics,covid, look at dumb tiktok videos and the males wanna browse ig to look at bitches they will never get, play videogames or smoke weed. Bunch of lames.

I'm hoping 2021 is the year I finally break through the wall. I have a coach to work with me and encourage me to do better. He recommended me some books to help "brainwash" me to think more positively and be more optimistic and improve my mental models. Gotta approach and start taking small steps and not put pressure on myself to get immediate results like guys from here. These guys have been doing this way longer than I have and comparing myself to them is only going to discourage me further. I am where I am and have to start with that.

Do not consume red pill content, and you need to be consuming content that will inspire you and make you take action. I personally would recommend for you books like Tony Robbins awaken the giant within or "can't hurt me" by david goggins...

 

[Madara Fire Annihilation]

I favor cold approach myself. I have mostly only used my social circle to get access to the parties I went to, and haven't done a lot "traditional" social circle game in that regards. I've gotten access but used cold approach to secure my lays. And yes, I got covid already back in April.

I don't use tinder much and I'm in the start 20s. I used to have jobs that made me very well connected with nights clubs, and overall I have a very big social circle. I have been able to go to illegal parties at clubs and a lot of other private parties during covid. On top of that, I was a tutor for new university students last year where I had to introduce them to campus and introduce the new students to each other. I got a good amount of lays from that activity as well.

how to keep up with the social obligation and marketing and creating gathering? I've done social circle but I find that other male gets super jealous

 

[Starboy]

Do not consume red pill content, and you need to be consuming content that will inspire you and make you take action. I personally would recommend for you books like Tony Robbins awaken the giant within or "can't hurt me" by david goggins...

I don't look at red pill content at all. I look at pickup guys so I sometimes get recommendations on yt from guys who seem like they lean red pill and I don't watch it.

To me red pill guys don't tell the whole story. They have a lot of incorrect assumptions like women are hypergamous,women are sluts and I don't like that shit. I already struggle with some toxic negativity and I don't want to indulge in it further.

 

[Pitcher]

Lots of seduction in Q1 2020...then POOF.

Pros:

• Died and came back to life
• Most visceral experience of community, connection, and the beautiful world my heart knows is possible at a New Years 2019/20 festival
• Entered into my 1st ever monogamous relationship, albeit a rather short one (~1.5 months)
• Strengthened family ties and deepened awareness of baggage I’ve inherited from my parents
• Chased a dream to the ends of the earth
• Earned money from teaching meditation (only 3 digits, still the heart-hustle seed has broken through the ground which is HUGE!)
• Completed a 119 hour water/tea only fast. Completed multiple 72+ hour fasts
• Transitioned to a mostly plant-based lifestyle and then to a reverence-based lifestyle
• Finished 21 books. Some highlights include:
  • The Rise of Teddy​
  • Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee​
  • The Game (2nd time)​
  • Climate: A New Story​
  • The Short and Tragic Life of Robert Peace​
  • The Return of the King (2nd time)​

Failures/Challenges/Opportunities for Growth:

• Died and came back to life
• Completely failed in my goal of being a professional athlete + meditation coach + spirituality influencer + renowned seducer in the timeline I envisioned
• Absolutely humbled by life. Forced to release attachment to the identities I had built around my goals
• Started a “normal j-o-b” at the end of May, well beneath my qualifications and with pay well below what I made straight out of college
• Celibate since mid-March 2020 (initially to prepare for an Ayauasca ceremony, which got cancelled ‍). No romantic outings since October 2020
• Lost ~20lbs, mostly muscle, took my hands off the wheel in regard to planning out personal fitness/nutrition, much weaker physically than a year ago
• Cried on the reg

”There are two outcomes ... Winning. And. Learning how to win.”

 

[jackal2020]

^ Getting your heart broken and going through that experience couple of times is CRUSIAL element to get Icey, as it keeps happening you will be like getting rejected from opening, it won't even face you.... I just broke up, and it was like nothing, i was relieved, eventually you will get there...

@Skills — becoming cold as ice is what worries me. Because if you become numb to the pain, then surely that would also numb you to the pleasure?

 

[Skills]

@Skills — becoming cold as ice is what worries me. Because if you become numb to the pain, then surely that would also numb you to the pleasure?

good question, thinking about it, you don't get numb to the pleasure but you are ok if she walks, it does still hurts a bit at times, but not as much... At this point to me when i end i feel relieved... Relationships some times run their curse and i rather "end it" than to "work at it".... But then again everybody is different...

 

[Chrance]

Cons:
- only banged 3 chicks
- lost a lot of game momentum

Pros:
- banged 3 chicks
- removed all social media
- got pretty good at surfing
- Improved a lot in Math/Programming
- came up with new projects (all of 2020 I couldn’t think of anything interesting to make but now have some cool stuff to work on and complete this year)
- bigger savings account for those future financial storms

Even though it was a terrible year for chicks, it was a great year for introspection and getting the mind on track

 

[terminator92]

Hey I loved reading this thread. I have been away from the forums for a while due to some reasons which I will explain below. 2020 has been a great year in terms of learning. Of course not so great in terms of results and being able to game.

I had 3 lays from daygame in 2020. Was only able to approach without restrictions for around 4-5 months. But being stuck at home gave me a lot of time to reflect and study and talk to people who are at different levels and follow different methods of Game. I spoke to guys who were on my level, guys who were way better than me, guys who were beginning and guys who have been coaches for years. Here are some of my insights on what I realized:

1. Everything works!!!! (Direct/Indirect/Semi direct any other shit they all work!) But they work only if YOU BELIEVE they work. This is key. Look at any guy great at Game you will see they have a strong belief in their method. I saw guys doing old school, routines and classic indirect and it worked like a charm and then I saw guys doing Direct and that worked too. But the one constant was THEIR BELIEF in their method.

2. They got their strong beliefs from first hand experience. Not through watching videos or reading stuff. They chose a method believed in it and then went out and tried it over and over again till their belief was reinforced and strengthened.

3. But I think the core principles of Game have already been laid out to us. We are all searching for more info, but the info is already there. Everything we need to get good at seduction is already out there. But most of us won't get there because we are searching for more info and the right method.

4. Everyone who got really good (whether at direct/indirect or any other form of Game) got good by going out and practicing on 1000s of women. 1000s! Now some may have gotten good quicker because their starting point was better. If you don't have too many limiting beliefs and already have relatively good level of confidence and SELF WORTH and genuinely believe you have VALUE TO OFFER TO WOMEN your journey will be easier and shorter. Now we all think we have value to women but most of us who struggle don't really believe it, as in our sub-conscious does not believe it. This takes many forms. I myself had developed a healthy level of entitlement but I moved out of my country and now I did not have that with girls from other races and my results dropped. Funny thing, when I went back home for a brief period I got laid 2 times in just 2 weeks. WHY? Because I thought I was entitled to the girls. When you believe the girl is on your level and feel entitled attraction happens easily its just a matter of her being available and you still handling the process smoothly and before you know it, she is in your bed.

5. I realized that the most important thing now, is to get to know our brains. Pick any method, anything that you at this point seem to resonate with and then start practicing. What we lack is discipline, a plan to approach and approach and approach till we get better. Most coaches including Chase know that "95 percent of guys who even come to know of Pickup and Game will never go past APPROACH ANXIETY". That's the first hurdle and I still struggle with it myself though I have managed to make a lot of progress. Last year I had a wing but now I am on my own so the AA increased and now I am trying to handle it again.

6. INTENSITY VS CONSISTENCY- What I meant by knowing our brains is this. I had always heard that a game session must be around 3 hours minimum and should include doing at least 10 approaches so as to be able to warm up and then have momentum to be able to do some approaches when you are in good state. I beat myself endlessly over this because when I was alone I just could not get myself to do 10 approaches. I used to procrastinate and postpone when I knew it was time go approach. MY BRAIN JUST VIEWED 10 APPROACHES AS TOO MUCH WORK and refused to let me do it. The few times I managed to do it, my willpower would be exhausted and I could do nothing else for the rest of the day and could not get myself to do another 10 approaches again the next day or even for another week.

CONSISTENCY
I then started small chunking it. Saying "I am going to go out and walk around for 30 mins everyday" this was my requirement. I did not have to approach and my brain would let me do that but then when I was out and about it felt pointless and so I decided to at least chat up one woman when I was out. I then slowly increased it to saying everyday I am going to talk to 1 woman and then it became 1 compliment and finally in the worst of conditions I managed to do Chase's 30 Day Challenge last month of 4 approaches per day for 30 days. But I still did not do it completely. As in my goal was to just talk to 4 women per day. On some of the days, I just was not in the mood or did not have the willpower to approach so I just asked for directions or the time. And on some days I did approach and actually Game. And when I completed the challenge and then scanned through my journal I realized I had spoken to 127 people instead of 120 because some days when I was in the mood I had done 1 or 2 more. But the actual approaches I had done were just around 52 and the rest of them were just asking for time or directions or some other shit just to get the minimum done for the day.

But I had done 52 approaches on my own in worst COVID restricted conditions. Gotten 8 numbers and been on a date with 3 of them. Something I had never managed to do SOLO without a wingman before.

INTENSITY
This month I tried the other approach. I decided to just go out 2 days a week and do 10 approaches each and it had to be "meaningful approaches" not just asking for directions and shit. And as I sit here on the 28th of February. I see that I bailed on many sessions and did 3-4 approaches when I was supposed to do 10. Told myself I would do 15 the next session and then completely bailed on the next session because 15 was too much and it was too late or that I would not find 15 girls at this time due to Covid etc.

Now I can clearly see that my brain responds to CONSISTENCY far better than INTENSITY and the only way I can build up to that level of intensity is to baby step my way to it and I am going back to doing approaches every day in March.

KNOW YOUR BRAIN. And find what works best for you.

7. FEAR OF FAILURE/ REJECTION- Guys think about this, if we went up to every girl we felt was cute and somehow started the conversation with her and tried to get her number and then asked her out and then escalated somehow on her and tried to bang her, how MUCH INFORMATION ON TECHNIQUES would we really need to know? If we really did that we would all be swimming in pussy. But the only thing that stands in the way of us doing that is FEAR OF REJECTION, FAILURE AND WHAT OTHERS THINK. Techniques are great but without action they are useless. Most of the people in the world are not living the lives they want because they fear failure and rejection. And one thing I realized of all the guys who are great at pickup regardless of what method or technique they use, is that they have conquered this fear to a far greater degree than those who are not successful have. Overcoming this fear I think is 80 percent of Game and the rest of the great stuff that all the resources teach us is the remaining 20 percent. So work on overcoming this fear FIRST AND FOREMOST.

(Well hope you guys find this post helpful. Its as much a post to myself as it is to you guys. Let's make 2021 great in whatever way we can in whatever circumstances we find ourselves in! )