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fearlessuk

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This is a Saturday sarge. I approach quite a high number of girls. I think about 17 and I feel like I need to increase the numbers. I should aim for 30 if I keep getting blown out the whole day. I normally sarge for 2 hours and need to increase it to 4 hours. I feel like day game is a lot harder than before. I feel like there is a high number of day gamers around and you're competing with even the news one with no experience. This just means you might need to open more, I also realize how crap my game is and it might take a bit longer. With Saturday I noticed the blow out rate is a lot higher because generally, girls are busier on Saturday. They have other things to do and normally will give you less of a chance. Obviously, you will meet some that are not busy. You just have to open more to find them.


Normally I get to sarge location and can not be bothered to approach girls. I came to the realization is I need to get into state. I keep thinking in my head a lot and about how I should do this and how I should do that. My brain is tricking me into NOT approaching girls and why. I have a lot of negative self talk about why it would not work and sometimes talk myself out of approaching a girl and call it a day. I will get to sarge location and open 2 or 3 girls and if it didn't work, I will go home. I think that is now a mistake. I need to keep persisting until I get into a state.

I noticed I haven't been fair on myself either because when I was recording how many girls I approached. I even counted the ones I didn't approach but was about to. So a girl is walking into a store and I count it as a rejection which isn't true. I follow a girl but she is lost in the crowd. I normally record these so before I approach, I would start recording which isn't fair and it would start eating into my confidence. Now I will delete a recording if I didn't speak to her to get a much fairer assessment.

I noticed while I was approaching my game was shit in the beginning and later on, slowly and surely I stopped caring and thinking in my head. I was obsessed with man to woman frame, I got to the point where I'm just going to have fun with it and eventually each interaction just got better and better. I started having fun with interactions with the girls.

I'm on a date tomorrow at 7 o clock. I'm just going to put the details down

Susie
China
studying accounting
use to study in Exeter
now lives in Stratford
Been in Uk for 3 years
She is a Harry porter fan and went to Harry porter play the same day
knows my full name

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NOTES for number farming:
If you number farm, tell them you are still working and need to go back to your job. This little info is important and will increase your number of dates. Girls might think you're a bit odd and wonder, what you are doing in a busy shopping location. It makes more sense for number farming if you need to get back to your job. This will make more sense on Monday to Friday

If your instant dating them forget this

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fearlessuk

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Bubble tea girl. Number 14

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HB: ok

F: you sound very English but you're from China right?

HB: yeah, so where are you from?

F: where do you think I'm from? (pause) India or Africa?

HB: why India or Africa :)

F: why not India and Africa (having fun)

F: (paused) I'm just kidding

+both giggle

F: I was born here but my parents from HK


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NOTE: I started the Paleo diet (not 100 percent) like around 50, and this has given me much more energy to sarge and chat to girls

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F: have you been to HK?

HB: yes actually my family lives in Shenzhen

F: why you have so much money, wow ( pointing at her t-shirt and touching it)

NOTE: good kino

F: did you win the lottery or

HB: no

F: so you been to HK before?

HB: yeah my home town in Shenzhen

F; so you can speak Cantonese

F: hung shell

HB: siew siew

F: wah, ley gone duck hole hole

HB: door jer

F: so what are you doing down here?

HB: I'm doing some shopping with my friend

F: shopping and looking at good looking men

HB: yeah (didn't hear the men bit)

F: and browsing around

F: you look like a student, are you studying or?

HB: no I live in Wales

NOTE: she lives too far and I know this won't go anywhere but I was in such a shit state, I needed to use her for practice. I think she was the only one I chatted to, where the interaction went well.

F; why you come down here?

HB: just come here for shopping

F: is it because of the good looking men in Oxford circus

HB: :) just shopping :)

F: you look like a Harry porter girl, do you like Harry Porter?

HB: yeah

F: do you like magic?

HB: yeah

F; so can you do any magic spells or?

HB: no

F: why, why not. you should have learned some by now

HB: okay maybe I will :)

F: so whats Cardiff like

minutes 2.04

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Overdoze

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youre doing lots of good work man - i saw several of your reports

one improvement you could consider is to maybe add some emotional stimulation into it since you stay on the surface as is a lot - this can bring you a bit more on the "inside" with her which breaks a hole through the stranger sorta feel to things.

check guns smma on emotional stimulation - or maybe theres an article in her somewhere. in his model its one of 3 keys. i use it ALL the time and it changes everything. The idea is to immerse her a bit in the convo emotionally.

it would move you forward in connecting w the girls a huge load since you get sortof a hook - you just need to move the convo forward after a bit of assumptionstacking and teasing etc. to progress things imo. or its one proven route to go at least. If you stay in the tease/ask questions/assumption stacking you end up in a dead stale. you need to shift gears.

looking forward to more
 

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Overdoze said:
youre doing lots of good work man - i saw several of your reports

one improvement you could consider is to maybe add some emotional stimulation into it since you stay on the surface as is a lot - this can bring you a bit more on the "inside" with her which breaks a hole through the stranger sorta feel to things.

check guns smma on emotional stimulation - or maybe theres an article in her somewhere. in his model its one of 3 keys. i use it ALL the time and it changes everything. The idea is to immerse her a bit in the convo emotionally.

it would move you forward in connecting w the girls a huge load since you get sortof a hook - you just need to move the convo forward after a bit of assumptionstacking and teasing etc. to progress things imo. or its one proven route to go at least. If you stay in the tease/ask questions/assumption stacking you end up in a dead stale. you need to shift gears.

looking forward to more

Thanks for taking the time to read my report :) . I know its boring as fuck and extremely long lol. All you can do is break that shit down haha.

Can you add a link to the article? Do you mean to get her to invest more of herself into the interaction? I seem to have problems with that. Some girls invest more in the interaction and some don't. I do feel like I have tons of sticking point to work on lol
 

Overdoze

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its great w reports man. good stuff.

yeah its about investment but theres a bit more to it. investment is a sorta empty concept in my head. Its more about becoming intriqueing to her cause you make her feel good feelings. which will activate her more towards investment.

there are certain techs you can add to what youre doing

eg asking into why she likes shopping? is it the thrill of looking and suddely discovering that unique item that really speaks to you. Or is it lookign through many beautiful items and enjoying imagining how you would feel wearing each of them?

here im:
1) asking into her world on somethign she mentions/is doing aka pacing
2) providing 2 examples (its called listing) of emotional things in that world which means im steering it into emotions that she can bounce of and eg give her own perspective on.
which means we go one step deeper and she starts to feel good emotions based on you which intriques her about you and opens more emotional exchanges.

just pick any simple little thing - ask into it and frame your question more towards emotional sides of things. Youll often see a huge change in her when you shift to this as you break the emotional wall a little.

ill see if i can link something up later.
 

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HB: okay maybe I will :)

F: so whats Cardiff like, I was born here but I never been to Cardiff. Is it like a really small town kind of thing?

HB: it's small and not quite as big as London. it's safe and quiet

F: this is safe and busy, the busier it is, the more safer it is

F: Cardiff is locals right? do you get bored in Cardiff?

HB: no

F: you like the quiet life, you like to sleep a lot

HB: I have lots fo friends

F: oh you have friends in Cardiff, I'm guessing there is a uni in Cardiff and that's where you guys study.

HB: ah yes

F: that's good. You look very smart

HB: ha

F: like a boffin, do you know like a boffin

F; do you study maths, what do you study?

HB: no, business administration

F; so you want to be the next Jack ma, so whats you dream (you can be the next jack Ma)

HB: Blah blah not sure

F: so when are you going back to Cardiff then?

HB: today

F: why? you should stay here, tell you, mum and dad, you will stay here instead and never go back to Cardiff

HB: I need to finish my dissertation

F: and then you will be a business administrator, I'm guessing.

F: you know what, I feel like a coffee right now .....and ....I want you to join me. There is a coffee shop down there, maybe for 10 minutes and then I need to get going soon.

HB: sorry I had to meet my friend

+ Minutes 4.18 and I'm still not in state, so I plow. Too many blow outs.

HB: have to leave at 6pm

F: oh 6pm

HB: yes

F: What time did you get here today then?

F: 5 o clock in the morning?

HB: like yesterday

F: really haha

F: do you stay in a hotel or?

HB: line up to buy addidas shoes

F: Is that why you came here, for Adidas

HB: yeah

F: is it because it's a special edition or because it's cheap

NOTE: she starts walking and I follow her. This is good and has helped me to get into state many times.

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NOTE: you have gone back into a pattern of asking too many questions. You should be making statements or assumptions.

+ let me guess

+ you look like

+ I can tell

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NOTE: I can feel she really is busy and is really trying to meet a friend. She is busy and obviously would CHOOSE friends over a stranger. I plow because she is very receptive to me.

F: do you have any tattoos by the way ( note: you look like you have tattoos and kino)

NOTE: tattoo's question good. You should have turned the question into a statement.

HB: no

F: you should get one as a souvenir and then when people see it, they will say wow. I really like your tattoo kind of thing

HB: how long have you studied in Cardiff for then?

NOTE: I think you are asking for logistics too soon and too much. I guess because of the state problem, you chucking whatever you can at her. I'm trying to snap out of my negative spiral.

NOTE: in some ways, it's a breakthrough and in some ways, it's not. The breakthrough is even though I didn't want to sarge, I still persisted until I got into state. The downside is I feel like my game has gone down a bit because of asking too many questions and not sarging enough. In the interaction, I felt nervous and miscalibrated the whole time but I persisted. I have been able to chuck some lines in, I have used in the past, which is good because I still remember. It's either self-amusement lines or man to woman lines. This still creates some spikes in the interaction. Nonverbles is shit because of not going out enough but glad still remember some man to woman line and self-amusement lines

F: why you don't study in London. (You should study in London)

HB: because I begin my application for too late

F: and then you went to Cardiff

F: I never been to Cardiff, I should go, when will you take me to Cardiff then? How about tomorrow?

HB haha

F: what's there to do in Cardiff, If I go there, where are you going to take me around

HB: Cardiff bay

F: Cardiff bay, whats Cardiff bay?

F: is it like the seaside and we go swimming?

F: but I can't swim

HB: there is no seaside

F: so if I drown, will you come a save me. Will you do mouth to mouth kind of thing

NOTE: this is good :)

HB: I don't know how to do that :)

F: so you will allow me to die

HB: I call the police haha

F: by the time the police comes, I be dead because you should have

HB: okay I will do mouth to mouth

F: really, oh ok

F: okay pinky, promise to do mouth to mouth then

NOTE: I do a pinky swear with her. This is good because it's another form of kino.

F: I'm just joking haha

F: you very cute, you know that

NOTE: This is very very good :) I said it in a way where it's genuine. It's also good to SOI 4 or 5 minutes in rather than do it as an opener.

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NOTE 2: if she says no to mouth to mouth. You can say:

F: you so evil (shake head) you rather see me dead, than to save me. your worst than Kim Jong Un

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F: you're very naive I don't know. is that the word hahaha

F; where have you been in London so far?

F: have you been to Big ben, London Eye?

HB: yes of course

F: have you been to Greenwich?

HB: yes

F: really, how long have you been in London for?

NOTE: one-worded answers from her so she isn't invested into the interaction. That might have been why I asked so many questions. There isn't enough push in my conversations. There should be more negs or spikes. I'm afraid to do negs and that's why sometimes it's too friendly. Do some negative emotional spikes

F: So have you been here before or your first time?

HB: it's not my first time.

F: I see, that's why I asked you and you been there. I was like how can you been there all in one day

F: why you don't stay for 3 days or 4 days?

F: you can do to a youth hostel or your friends go to Airbnb, somewhere cheap

HB: no, I have to meet my supervisor

F: so you supervisor has to make sure you not a naughty girl or

NOTE: good negative emotional spike. Girls love it

HB: :)

F: you bad naughty person

NOTE: very good :) carry on with this behavior lol

HB: blah blah

F: ah okay, your life is so good, it sounds so interesting

NOTE: good :) the interaction is getting better and your willing to chuck some negative emotional spikes in. Well done

HB looks at me

F: smiling and non serious face haha

F: are you looking for a job in China?

HB: yes

F; why you English is so good

minutes 8.40
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fearlessuk

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Overdoze said:
its great w reports man. good stuff.

yeah its about investment but theres a bit more to it. investment is a sorta empty concept in my head. Its more about becoming intriqueing to her cause you make her feel good feelings. which will activate her more towards investment.

there are certain techs you can add to what youre doing

eg asking into why she likes shopping? is it the thrill of looking and suddely discovering that unique item that really speaks to you. Or is it lookign through many beautiful items and enjoying imagining how you would feel wearing each of them?

here im:
1) asking into her world on somethign she mentions/is doing aka pacing
2) providing 2 examples (its called listing) of emotional things in that world which means im steering it into emotions that she can bounce of and eg give her own perspective on.
which means we go one step deeper and she starts to feel good emotions based on you which intriques her about you and opens more emotional exchanges.

just pick any simple little thing - ask into it and frame your question more towards emotional sides of things. Youll often see a huge change in her when you shift to this as you break the emotional wall a little.

ill see if i can link something up later.

Thanks, overdose :)
 

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HB: yes

F; why you English is so good

HB: i don't know

F: knee eng yui, hung whole

HB: I think we are similar in language

F: war jung duck bui whole, Knee jung duck hung whole

HB: hi shing

NOTE: her reaction changed towards me in a good way because of the negative emotional spikes. Obviously don't overdo it but let her know you NOT willingly going to take crap from people. You're demonstrating you're the type of person who will speak out.

HB: where r u going?

F: basically I was shopping and I saw you and you're very cute basically.

NOTE: you need to slow down your voice and have more pauses

F: and you very interesting

NOTE: man to woman good :)

HB: so you don't have a destination?

F: I did have a destination. I came here with a friend and we had some dim sum. and then i walked around to do some shopping. and then I saw you and then yeah.

F: is there anywhere you need to go, I can take you

+ just addressing her question

F: do you have a lot of street performers in Cardiff (pointing)

HB: no

F: is it warm in Cardiff right now?

HB: yes but the temperature is lower than here

F: lower than here yeah

F; do you come here often then or is it rare for you to come here

HB: not very often

F; maybe I come down and visit you or something. I'm wondering is it boring in Cardiff because it sounds like a small town

HB: sometimes but I have lots of friends

F: so its the university big?

HB: yes

F: why you look so skinny, you arm

NOTE: I use my hand to cup her skinny arms and compare arm size. Very good, well done

NOTE 2: I have been standing close to her all this time and kinoing her shoulders a bit. Because I'm not in state, I didn't overdo the kino because it wouldn't feel right for me and would come across weird

F: your arm is skinny compared to mine, it's like a stick, you can break it

NOTE: good negative emotional spike

F: you need to eat more food, you know in Uk. If you drink more milk, eat more cheese, you will grow taller

HB: ar, i don't like milk

NOTE: she is smiling most of the time. In the beginning, it wasn't the case

F: you don't like milk and that's why you are this hight (kino head)

NOTE: very good

HB; haha

F: in Uk if you drink milk and eat cheese, you will grow taller by 3 inches

F: you can try it, when you go home eat more cheese and drink more milk

HB: ok maybe I try

F: and see if you can grow 3 inches

F: have you been to the musical in this area?

HB: yes

F; which one have you been to?

HB: Phantom of the Opera

F: have you seen cats by the way?

HB: no

F: cats is really good by the way. I really recommend it

HB: ok i think about it

F; so you miss you Chinese food in China then?

HB: yes of course

F: so there is no good Chinese food in Cardiff?

F: can you cook?

HB: yes

F; what can you cook?

HB: just some simple dishes

F: whats simple, can you cook rice

HB: of course :)

F: can you cook chicken?

HB: yes

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NOTE: you could have self-amused or set up a lover frame:

F: you can be wife number 32. We can have 20 or 30 babies together

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F: beef?

HB: I don't like

F: why?

HB: I don't know, I just don't like it

F: do you like pork?

HB: so so

F: so its more like just chicken

NOTE: I continue with this thread but now it's not helping me. I should have cut it off after beef or change topics

F: so what do you do for fun

HB: ahhh going to karaoke

F: oh you can sing?

NOTE: voice is going high pitched again

minutes 13.29
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F: oh you can sing?

NOTE: voice is going high pitched again

F: wow

HB: everybody can sing haha

F; err no not everyone. Some people sound awful and you need a certain number of skill, in order to sing

F: even average sounds good in my opinion. So what can you sing? can you sing something for me

HB: ha

F: how about Happy birthday or something

HB: I have a favorite singer

F: who is your favorite singer?

HB: name is Jay Chow

F: Jay chow, I prefer JJ lin

F: I think JJ lin is better. Not as good looking as jay chow. His voice is better

F; have you been to Taiwan then?

HB: no

F: jay chow is Taiwanese right?

HB: yes

F: yes, it's very crowded in Central London

HB: yes

F: is it this crowed in Cardiff?

+ I take her around to look for a bubble tea shop. She told me she has to leave around 5.30, so we have another 20 minutes left

+ there was this weird Chinese cult demonstration and I pointed towards them

F: you like that (point)

HB: of course not

F: they teach you how to do kung fu and meditate

HB: they are not Chinese martial arts

F: what is it then?

HB: some evil thing

F: but your evil so it's perfect. you and them together......perfect

F; what's the most evil thing you ever have done, apart from being naughty

NOTE: good lol

HB: i really can't remember

F: you can't remember because you were too young

F: why you know this area so well

HB: because i love bubble tea

F; so one day you will marry the bubble tea (pause) and have bubble tea babies

NOTE: good

HB: haha

F: and you will have 10 or 20 bubble tea babies come out

HB: thats terrible

F; whats terrible

HB: thats scary

F: are you allowed to have 20 or 30 babies?

HB: no

F; why?

HB: because I don't like children

F: so you an evil monster and will try and strangle them

+ she buys bubble tea for herself and friends and I get a number. Just in case she likes me and wants me to visit her in Cardiff. I don't think so but you never know. There was a girl who wanted me to visit her in Leicester 3 years ago, even though I thought it wasn't going to happen.

learnings: it's good to persist, just to gain reference experience. Need to sarge more, I will try and aim for 3 days a week instead. the least is 2 days a week. Also if you have a really bad day, keep going until you get into state. If she continues to walk, you should follow her and you get more chatting time
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Number 17, my final set before I meet my gf. Just cancelled on me today lol

Susie

Direct

HB; er huh

F; where are you from, you look like your from China?

HB: yeah

F: you look like you study art or something creative

HB: I don't study art haha

F; what do you study?

NOTE: too high pitched and feel Very unconfident

HB: accounting

F: actually you do look like an accountant

HB: yeah

F; can I hire you to be my accountant

HB: oh sorry I can't haha

F: I'm just kidding, my name is F, whats your name?

HB: susie

F: knee shui bui shui jung got run

HB: haha where are you from?

F: where do you think I'm from? India or Africa?

HB: I don't know haha

F: no no no I was born here but my parents from HK

minutes 1.11

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HB: I don't know haha

F: no no no I was born here but my parents from HK

HB: ah ok

F: Knee jie dow jung gor yui ma?

HB: ker yee

F: war gen duck huw bui huw

HB: what did you mean haha

F: do I speak well

HB: a little haha. I'm sorry haha

F: I'm just kidding

F; what are you doing down here, you look like your traveling? are you staying in London?

HB: I study in Exeter and graduated and stayed here a few months

F; really, do you like it here?

HB: yeah

F: do you like the men here, are they more interesting or?

NOTE: her English is not that good and she is pretty shy

HB: I don't know

F: but your English is good

HB: oh thank you

F; it's like you understand what I'm saying but I need to speak slower

HB: yeah

F; so where are you living now in London. Do you know where Romford is?

HB: no

F: that's where I live, it's 6 stops from Stratford

HB: like East

F: yes East London

HB: what do you do?

F: I am a spy

HB: really ha

F: yes, like James Bond and I'm looking for Chinese tourist and no no no just kidding

F: basically my dad has 4 restaurants and I help him manage them

HB; oh so you grew up here

F: Yeah, I grew up here. So you did not grow up here

HB: no just

NOTE: Let her speak, you keep cutting her off

F: when you come down here, a year ago?

HB: 3 years

F: 3 years

F: do you like it here?

HB: pretty much

F; is your, family, here as well

HB: no

F: just you. So you ran away from home, you're a naughty girl

HB: kind off, yeah

F: your naughty and want to be an accountant here

HB: kind off, I have decided yet

F; why you study accountancy

F: too many people. Can we stand down here? (moved her to one side)

F: why you decide to study accounting

HB: there no other thing

F: you look a bit like Harry porter.

HB: really haha

F: do you know Harry porter

HB: actually I'm going to watch a Harry Porter play

minutes 4.10

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