28/6/19 Irist Korean girl breakdown

[fearlessuk]

.
I haven't sarged for about 2 weeks, some things came up. I HAVE been sarging for the last 3 days though

I had about 3 long dates so far. One lasting about 3 to 4 hours, she friend zoned me even before we met but I was alright with that, I just felt a bit rusty and she was quite interesting. I had a good time with that one and will be meeting her on Monday. Female friends add to my confidence, so its all good The field reports have been helping as this girl really likes me as a friend. Most of the time if they don't see value in you, they wouldn't want you as a friend. They would normally just ignore you

I also created a follow up list of girls that are going on holiday. So far only 2 but I'm guessing the list will build up over time lol. Obviously some of it is an excuse, to just get rid of you. I still have to follow up just in case. I won't be spending much time on text game. It would be a simple text to ask for a meet up. If they ignore me, I pretty much know the answer already, which is good, I don't have to waste my time, better to talk to more new girls.

F: excuse me, erm, I know this is random , er can you hear me?

I felt she didn't understand English

HB: yes

F: you speak English?

hb yes

F: I know this is random, I just saw you from over there.......and.....I think you look really cute

HB: hahaha

my gut tells me she is interested

F: are you from Japan of something

hb; from Korea

F: Korea

hb: yes

F: onion I seye o

hb: haha yes

F: my name is F

F: whats you name?

HB: er

HB: English name is Irist

F: Irist, what are you doing here, you look like a touist?

+ my tonality is going upwards which isn't so good. I need to deepen my tonality. The weather is quite sunny so that is helping me


HB: hoilday

F: oh so your going back to korea very soon

HB: yeah

F: so your just here, just to look around and look at the good looking British men, in the Uk or something

HB: haha

F: so do you like Uk at the moment or you don't like it?

HB: I like it

F: really, why your English so good, Korean American kind of thing

HB: oh no no no

HB I'm not so good at English

F: yeah but er, you do have an accent but it's good

HB: blah blah

F: so why did you come to the UK and not Amercia or

HB: two years ago i was here in Uk. Basically she is saying she loves UK

F: sorry, did you say you got arrested or

+ I didn't hear her properly, I think I was in my head. I have to be careful next time and be in the moment.

F; what did you say, did you say you were arrested or

HB: repeats herself again

F: oh I see, thank you thank you thank you

HB: why you thank you

F: because i was born here

F: I'm kind of British kind of thing

HB: oh I see

F: where do you think i'm from, india or africa

+ I don't think this line works for me anymore, I think I should stop using it. it no long self amuses me for some reason. It's better to say " where do you think I'm from, guess"

HB: I thought you an Asian people

F: yes, I am Asian haha I was born here but my parents from HK

HB: they are working here

+ I love the way she ask questions, it makes my life easier. Some girls are dead like a stone.

+ hook point is already reached somewhere

F: I do, do you know property management?

HB: you mean estimates kind of thing

F: well I don't do the estimates but I do the rentals and basically manage the properties.

F: but I love your energy as you were walking, you have an amazing energy about you

+ this is good because you meant it when you said it, it came across because authentic as you were free associating it. It kind of came from the heart, which is always good.

HB: ok thank you

HB: blah blah

F: I like the way you were wearing ear phones and you were in you own world kind of

F: just like thinking kind of stuff

HB: haha thats right

HB: i was thinking about a lot of stuff when walking down this street

F: really, what were you thinking?

HB: this is my last day so

F: ahh I feel so sad for you

HB: my lingering feelings

F: really haha

F: thats good, how long you stayed here for, like , 3 days or , 2 days or

HB: one week

F: wow that's a long week

F: did you go to Manchester or

HB: no

HB: I stayed in bath and stayed here and walked down everywhere

F: did you go shopping them buy any handbags

HB: actually, I'm not a shopping girl

F: your not a shopping girl, you look like a shopping girl

HB: no no no haha

F: you look like you in fashion or something, like your going down the catwalk, you know the catwalk?

F: you look like a catwalk model, the way your dressed, your sunglasses and you leather jacket

HB: i think its a waste of time to shop here, i can do that in korea. I want to get some feelings

F: so did you get any feelings then

HB: yeah, I love the exotic feelings

+ she loves the feel of the countries she visits

+ about 5 minutes in, I instant date her

F: I don't know if you free right now but I like to have a cup of coffee with you.....for about 5 minutes .............as I have to meet my friend later on

F; there a coffee shop down there, it's called costa, it's on me

HB: yeah

F; come lets go

+ she was a bit reluctant, I think next time it's better to number farm than to instant date. It's good to instant date if your a bit rusty, which I am. Number farming helps you to screen girls, which increases your chances of a lay. The problem with holiday girls is you can only fuck them once if you succeed. With instant dates, she might not even want to have a coffee but just wants to be polite. This allows her to cool down and go home and really think whether she wants to take this further or not, knowing your a stranger.

F: its for 5 minutes and you can go shopping

HB; ok ok

+ we start walking to the coffee shop, I lead her

F: so are you the oldest in the family or the youngest

HB: I'm just the middle one

F: the middle, so you the one, no one cares about, like you mum and dad ignores you kind of thing

HB; haha

F: I heard the middle child, it's called the middle child syndrome, it's either the oldest that gets the attention or the youngest gets the attention.

HB: yes I don't know how to explain well

F: like a sandwich

HB; yes

HB: blah blah sister, blah blah brother and I grew up an independent girl.

F: independent girl, ok, so your brother is the one you love the most and spoils and

HB: mum and dad gives the same volume of love to all of us, I didn't feel the difference

F: really, you're so lucky

F; so what do you do, you look like your in fashion or something

+ it's interesting your really caring about this conversation and your love chatting to this girl

HB: blah blah importing food

F: oh your importing, was it food

HB; yes food stuff

F: ok, where's my present then

both laugh

HB: I'm sorry, i didn't bring it

F: that's fine next time, so do you buy from Italy and import it to south korea

F; so south Koreans are into Italian food then.

hb: yes blah blah

F; so what do you do in your spare time them?

F: apart from being and entrepreneur, what do you do?

HB: i like movies, I like traveling

F; where have you been then

HB: I been to lots of countries, Italy, Paris, Germany, Austria

F; wow, how come you been to so many countries

HB: before i been in HK

F: oh you like HK

F: yes, that's famous for a shopping area because everything is crowded together

HB: blah blah about HK

F: there's a lot of protest, it's not a good time to go now i think. There's a lot of protest in HK, so where else have you been?

+ I think you should leave out the protest, I don't think this will help you get laid. You just don't know what people in China think about this. It might hurt you a bit

hb; what are we talking about

F: sorry, where else have you been apart from HK then?

minutes 09.48
.

 

[fearlessuk]

.
hb; what are we talking about

F: sorry, where else have you been apart from HK then?

HB: blah blah blah places she been in hong kong

F; wow you know the places really well

F; is that one of your favourite places, HK

HB: I think X place is the best

F; have you been to Greenwich yet, in UK?

F: it's similar to the one in London eye but it's a free one, where you can see the whole view of London

F; it's a shame, maybe next time

HB: yes next time, when i come back 3 or 4 years later

F: too many countries to go to

HB: your right your right

HB: you have an appointment right?

F: no later on, about 5 o clock

HB: hmm

F: actually it's more like 5.30

NOTE: next time when you say, I have to meet a friend later on, just say "he will call me" and then make up an excuse if it's going well. "He just cancelled on me"

F; the weather is really nice, how about Korea, now or

HB; blah blah blah talks about whats great in korea

F: is it similar to silicon valley?

HB: we already launched 5g

F; yeah, oh really, wow, oh I like Samsung though

HB: haha

F: most people love Samsung in Uk at the moment

HB: at the moment you can not use the phone in the subway

F: yeah, no we cant yeah.

+ in coffee shop

F: what would you like to drink? latte or?

HB; Americano

F; so you like strong coffee

HB: actually I had lunch a view minutes ago

HB: is it ok if we go dutch

F: Yeah, I don't mind, its up to you, as long as your comfortable that's good

NOTE: not much kinoing going on, I must start kinoing again. As we were walking, I was invading her personal space and she doesn't seem to mind it that much.

HB; more comfortable

NOTE: It's her A subtle way of saying, nothing will happen between us.

+ I just wanted to instant date a bit more, so I was okay with it. Number farming is where the real game is at for me.

F: are you a Samsung user or an iphone user?

HB: I'm using samsung

F: yeah yeah good

F: how big is Samsung in Korea?

HB: it's the largest and the best

F: I heard they don't just do mobile phones but other things as well

HB: mobile phones and electric devices

F; so what kind of movies do you watch then?

HB: I love Korean movie, i can

F; have you watched the Man from No Where?

HB: blah

F: Wong Bin?

We get our coffees

F; so why you like expresso?

F: there must be a reason, a story

HB ; blah

F: is it because, I heard in South korea people work really long hours and need coffee to

HB; yes too much

HB: nowadays the trend is changing and picking tea over coffee

F: so what got you into your business then, importing and exporting

HB: I'm just an employee

F: you look like an entrepreneur

HB: oh really

F: but is it a big company, the

HB: blah blah blah

F: so the hours are long or

HB: our brother in-law is in our company

F; really

NOTE: your conversational patterns are forming and improving. I feel like what's missing is confidence, kinoing and invading personal space. I believe with the right girl, you can soi much better. The truth is because this girl isn't so qualified, so there's only so much you can do with this girl. You can build you confidence and improve conversational threads. I guess you can find excuses to kino her.

When you are out and about, find an excuses to kino the girl. Just push it as far as you can go

minutes 20.15

 

[fearlessuk]

.
F: so the hours are long or

HB: our brother in-law is in our company

F; really

HB: blah blah blah

F: is he the manager

HB: he is the president blah blah. I enjoy myself. Sorry i don't know your name?

F: my names is Samsung

HB: Samsung

F: no no I'm just kidding

F: my name is F

F: is Samsung a real name

HB: it's just a brand name

F: maybe it's like tom, you know you got Tom Ford

HB: ahh I see

F: I thought maybe its the name of a Korean person.

HB: Samsung means 3 stars

F; what are you planning next, where is your next trip?

HB blah blah

F; so how many countries have you been so far

HB: can't count, a lot

F: more than you fingers

HB: yes I love travelling, do you like it

F: yes, I went Prague recently and i went to Madrid, it's quite cheap in UK. You can just jump on Ryan air

F: I think it must be quite expensive in Korea

HB: yes it's expensive, once a year

F; so you have one day off a year or

HB: yes

F: we have a lot more holidays haha

F; Beats, are they good earphones

HB: brother in law gives me as a birthday gift

F: wow he is a good brother in law

HB: are you leaving alone?

F: me, basically I live in zone 5. Do you know where blah blah is. It's quite far actually. Basically I meet up with a friend in the afternoon and I bumped into you and I thought wow. You know, how to you say cute in Korea?

HB: it's shameful to say that

F: really, wow

HB: I'm not so cute, I'm not cute at all

F: why you say that

HB: I just feel

F: pretty, cute you know

HB: there are lots of pretty girls here

F: really , you got too low esteem

HB: no its the standard

F: you have to increase it a little bit

F: I think some guys like that kind of favour and some guys gravitate towards a different girl. Everyone has different taste. You have expresso, latte and yeah

HB: haha

F; you got one more day. so when are you going then?

HB: go back to the country

F; yeah, tomorrow? in the morning or?

HB: afternoon

F: around 12 o clock?

HB: between 12 and 2 o clock

F; wow so you don't have to wake up too early

HB: I feel tried thinking about packing my luggage

NOTE: it's good to talk about her logistics, to get a feel of things. Well done

F: are you staying in Airbnb

HB: the price is similar so I choose the hotel

F: the only downside is there's no kitchen

HB: Im not a cooking girl.

F: you not a cooking girl, why you don't like to cook

HB; you like cooking

F: ahh I have no choice, it's different to Korea. A lot of times there isn't that many Chinese restaurants. A lot of unhealthy food in Uk. I understand in HK, me and my family would go out a lot. No choice, as its quite unhealthy eating out everyday and expensive as well.

HB: you parent where are they

NOTE: lol my voice is sometimes high pitch and sometimes low pitch. Sometimes seeking rapport and sometimes breaking rapport. Obviously breaking rapport tonality is the best. This will start to adjust if i go out more and chat to more girls.

F: they travel around and sometimes live in the Uk as well

F: I think in the future they be more in HK

HB: you living here and born here

F: yeah

HB: so this is your mother country

F: yes, i think i lived here for too long. I want to travel and see whats out there. I went to Thailand and I feel like going to Vietnam and going to Philippians and see what's that like and the standard of living is really cheap. But Thailand was really good because they have Chinese, Korean and Japanese food but the food is cheaper

F: I think there is more sands and sea, I don't know but there's something about it.

HB: I do like Bangkok

F: I think I like Pattaya more.

HB: it's a trend to live there one month or more

F; why Bangkok, yes because it's just a city area

HB: actually I love city

F; to be honest Pattaya is like a city

HB: half city and half seaside. I want to travel more when I'm healthier

F: you look healthy, what do you mean

HB: blah blah blah I would love to stay in Uk or Paris.

HB: lots of women love Paris more than London

F; interesting, I live here all my life haha

HB: how do you think about this city

F: im quite simple, the most important thing is food. That's why I like Thailand and Hong Kong

F; the food is good here but I feel it could be more heavier

HB: where is the best places in London

F: I feel there's a lot of places you haven't been to. You definitely need to go to Greenwich

F: there's an other place, where you can see London Eye, you can see Big Ben

F: I don't normally go to the attraction, as I been here all my life

HB: have you thought about travelling to Korea

F: are you going to take me around?

F: Korea, I heard Soul is quite good

HB: do you know Korea well

F: I watch a lot of Korean movies

minutes 35.18
.

 

[fearlessuk]

.
HB: do you know Korea well

F: I watch a lot of Korean movies

HB: which one is the best

F: probably not the latest ones, there is a film called Old Boy

HB; old Boy is quite an old movie

F; yes haha

HB: haha not the latest one, for foreigners ok.

F: the man from no where

HB: no

F; Wong bin

F: it's about a guy, he is very lonely, he meets a young girl

HB: I know that movie

HB: Korean title is different. Title is Uncle

F: there's an other movie, it's about a guy who's wife got killed by a killer

F: he finds the killer and tortures the killer, lets him go, tortures the killer, lets him go and tortures him again. In the end he kinds his wife's family and kills them

HB: I know that movie, I saw a devil

F: yes that's it

HB: blah blah

F: It's strange because i know it's his fought, he should have killed him, straight away. He shouldn't try to mentally torture him, the problem is the killer is mental but he is so unset about his wife death

HB; yes he couldn't kill him at once, he wanted more cruelty

F: it didn't work, so its kind of

HB: blah blah

HB: i love the director

F: is he a famous director

HB: oh your right

F: I would say Korean movies are very good. I would say Korean and hk movies are very good

F: there are some Chinese movies

HB: ohhh sun


F: I feel like South Korea is similar to HK but Hong Kong is more crowed and more people

HB: Korea is crowed as well blah blah

F: are you a City girl, do you like the city

HB: I love the city

F: is that why you work in Soul

F: do you like your work, do you enjoy it, is it boring?

HB: blah blah

F: wow you interesting, why you don't stay in UK, you should stay in Uk

HB : visa problem

+ we chat about Samsung phone, as she has a Samsung phone and i have one. It's a good topic as we both love this phone

+ where do you learn your English from

NOTE: almost everything we chat about, she opens up and carries most of the conversation because you hit hook point. She is now doing 80 percent of the talking

+ have you been to St James Park, do you see Prince William or Harry. Hello and wave hand

+ did you try the Hi Tea?

+ come back next year

+ they have good scones in Marks and Spencer. It' not high end but high end supermarket food

Minutes 58
.

 

[fearlessuk]

.
+ I told her I was meeting my friend and put a time constrain. Towards the end she was talking about it. I think she wanted to do go shopping WITHOUT me. I made an excuse to see if my friend is around by checking my phone

F: I haven't seen my friend for a while. He finishes around 5.30

HB: your friend is working near here

F: yeah here is a good location, as this is where everything is, yeah

HB: is he Chinese as well, HK

F: ahh yeah British born Chinese or something

NOTE: i was stumbling on my words because clearly I was making something up lol. The first time I meet her I was " i feel like a cup of coffee right now.....and........I want you to join me for 5 minutes, as I'm meeting my friend later on.

NOTE: next time you should say "you know what, it's not important, he lives round my area and he wasn't expecting me anyway." "This is more fun " and point towards the ground. Change topics quickly. You don't even need to check your phone because he wasn't expecting you anyway.


NOTE; I felt like I couldn't push this interaction, which is a negative belief. You could always push the interaction as far as you can go. Try and kino her and touch her. There is always a learning curve in it. You shouldn't care whether she likes you or not because you never see her again anyway. She will appreciate you had the balls and expect it. She knows what you are up to. You have to remind them your a sexual predator by telling her how pretty she is. Remember to soi the girls.

Even if the tone or interaction is set up as a friendly vibe, you can always turn it sexual, even if you or her feels uncomfortable or you feel uncomfortable. You will feel better about yourself if you have the courage to do this.

NOTE: the good points are, you conversation thread are forming. I also feel you need to spend more time with the girls you are talking to. Push it to 3 to 4 hours or as much as possible. Even if YOU FEEL like there is nothing to talk about. The problem is, you like to end it on a high note, which is not what this is about. you should learn to crash the car and take risks. It's always about pushing it as far as you can go. Stop being so nice and get laid.

+ the focus is not to deepening your tonality or to correct your ahs and ums. The focus is to write FRs and focus your what you are saying and how she is replying back to you. The content is really important. If your building your conversational muscles, the time spent with girls will last a lot longer because she finds you interesting. Over time your low self esteem tonality and ahhs and ums will auto correct itself. Time spent with girls will increase you confidence and hone your game. The more time you spend with a girl, the more your fuck worthy level increases. Conversational threads are not routines, they just muscle memory you free associate. When gaming you always have to be in the present or in the moment, you can not think. Thinking time is when your write FRs.

+ When writing your reports, remember to write conversational threads only, don't write exactly what you said. You just want to remember what topics you have talked about and kind of what you said. Your just building you conversation muscles for the next girl. Really your doing this because you just want to improve yourself. Improving oneself attracts more girls.


F; how come your still single? your very pretty

+ she has high standards

HB: how about you. You don't have a gf

F: not at the moment, it's been 7 or 8 months when we broke up. I think its time

HB; you a single man

F: yeah yeah yeah

HB: you ok

F: yeah it wasn't working out and we both know it, so we said lets be friends and stuff like that

F: I think things work out the way they are suppose to.

HB: how long

F: I would say about 2 and half years

HB: really that's a long time

F: i think everyone is like that right, hopefully get to the next level but didn't happen

HB: I need a lot of time to get rid of the guys feeling blah blah blah

F: its been about 7 or 8 months for me so i think its about time

F: if its finished then its finished, whatever. All you can do is move on

F: it sounds like you haven't dated in a while haha

minutes 1.06.46
.

 

[fearlessuk]

.
F: if its finished then its finished, whatever. All you can do is move on

F: it sounds like you haven't dated in a while haha

HB; when you break up with a gf is it possible to be a friend?

F: i think so, obviously some people can't do it so, depends on the person

NOTE: you should have cut this thread and change topics. Talking about relationships won't help you with game. I think maybe towards the end, it kind of got boring so you didn't keep an eye on the ball

hb; you can do

F: I can

HB you so cool

F: it's not so easy but you get over it and accept it

HB: I think so

HB: so far I never been friends with my ex boyfriends, that's why I was asking

F: ah ok haha

Hb; it's funny how you are a stranger and we able to chat

F; maybe you invested too much in the relationship, maybe you can't do it

F; it depends on the situation, it's situation based

hb; it depends to the person, some people can be ok and some people takes time

F; you look so sad are you ok

HB: Im sorry

F; just move on, that's it, not just in relationships, everything is like that, if your in a job and you got sacked. Obviously not being in a job is not good. Same kind of feeling

HB; that's why your single now

F; unfortunately.

NOTE: there was lots of opportunities to change threads and chat about something else. Next time don't chat about relationships

F; do you have tinder in Korea? Do you have a dating app, is it popular?

HB: i'm not sure but i'm not using

HB; meeting through friends.

F: in uk it's popular

Hb; you use that?

F: no I don't know how to use it

F: like you said though friends

HB: more trustful

F: i think it doesn't really matters as long as you , like the guy or

HB: I worried about who he is

F: its okay, there nothing to worry about. If you meet someone in a coffee shop. As long as its a pubic area it's fine. The only way you know him is chat

HB; actually my first time

F: no one chat to you like this before?

F: must have, your a pretty girl, the way you look, then you tell them your not pretty haha

HB; just scared sometimes

F: why, why you so scared

HB: blah blah

F: you have to use you common sense

NOTE: she just opening up how she feels about strangers in general.

F: maybe you can take your friend with you or something and ask the date if it's okay

HB; that's a good way

F: there are lots of strangers out there, life is full of strangers, in business if you want to find job, you don't know who they are and have to reach out

HB: there is a difference

F: I know what you mean, you just use your common sense, that's fine. Not all people are crazy.

HB: that's true

F; I think 50/50

HB: thats true

F: in Korea, do people ask you out on the street?

HB; yes

F: and you don't go out?

HB: yes I had a bad experience, no connection, no chemistry.

F: haha I get it

F: a long time ago, I was on a date with a girl and it was quite awkward. I ended it because you said there is no chemistry, nothing there, kind of. I think she was relieved or something. Maybe the personality don't match, you know

F: maybe the main issue is, something is not matching or something, there's no chemistry basically.

HB: I dated someone really good looking and there was no chemistry, I can not date

F: was he like Wong Bin

both giggle

HB: Oh I got to try

F: I heard he is shy in real life but a good actor

HB: blah blah blah

F: my friend hasn't called me yet

+ I found it a bit boring after one and half hours. I felt like it wasn't going any where. So I ended it. I think also because the conversation steered in a direct where I didn't want to take it. It seems like she wanted to ask me advice about life and relationships lol Normally if a girl is into you, they wouldn't talk about relationships.

NOTE: Don't allow that to happen, take control of the conversation. You should have teased her a bit more.

+ I think next time, I should try to bounce her and tease her more.
.

 

[JacobPalmer]

Everything looks good, but what's your plan to sleep with her? During this 1.5 hours you have to bounce her or somehow get her back to your place or somewhere where you can be intimate. It's all a bit too friendly to me.

 

[fearlessuk]

Everything looks good, but what's your plan to sleep with her? During this 1.5 hours you have to bounce her or somehow get her back to your place or somewhere where you can be intimate. It's all a bit too friendly to me.

Thanks Jacob I haven't been gaming for over a year. I'm a hard case. I started about a month ago but haven't gone out consistently either. Progress is slow. The goal is to sleep with a girl but also to try and improve myself and my game.

My gf is leaving soon and I don't want to settle with her. She is looking for marriage and I'm not. I'm looking to replace her. After I find a girl, i will focus more on business. I'm looking for a girl that that can stay in the Uk long term lol.

I still have some nervous energy at the moment. Yes your right, it is too friendly and I'm aware of that. Because of the nervous energy, girl sense it and it's hard to kino. Some even said "I don't like it when you touch me." I just need to go out more and continue writing FRs at the moment. I know eventually it will all click again.

At the moment, it's to get as much reference experience as i can and continue correcting my behaviours. It's also to make some female friends and also instant date girls that are not qualified. Just spending time with them will also helps

Eventually its screening girls who are into me. Just going direct all the way to fuck close. I wouldn't need any reference experience any more. I will go direct and they can either take it or leave it.