LR 2nd date lay :P

[Swati]

*fyi this lay was like from 1 month ago, if it's considered "ancient lays" then feel free to remove it or mark it as is​

Meet online before I got shadow banned, I matched with her. we chatted for about a week, I had plans to meet this chick, then she went cold for a few days, slow-replying. Turns out when I asked her about

"when was the last time you had sex?"

she was getting dicked down by her ex the week with the slow replies, which was funny as fuck because we were chatting great, then ghost mode. I hit her up again after that week, sensing some hesitancy. Didn’t push for a meetup, because if I’d set the frame of “let’s do it now,” she might’ve flaked or auto-rejected due to attainability being too high. She was also occupied, so I played it cool.

First Date​

We met at a hookah lounge. She was 10 minutes late, but I had her sit right next to me. When I had girl sit in front of me, usually doesn't go well . If a girl sits across from you on the first date, it triggers her to be more defensive, and she’s less bought in. That usually means slow escalation or no burn at all. She sat next to me, so I knew I had a shot. I smoked hookah, she didn’t. We each ordered two drinks, I paid for all of it. Convo was solid, though I don’t remember exactly what we talked about, just BS and some sexualization no touching. after first drinks, she ordered another together with me. when we left to go to the metro I got a boner and when we hugged, I push it up against her pussy, pretty sure she felt it. I pulled her back to my place, saying it’s just to check out the view, which I do have. Within 5 minutes of escalating, I tried taking off her clothes, when I got to her pants to rub her pussy, she stopped me. Probably had some mental model about not fucking on the first date. I’ve met girls like this before—second date is usually where I can escalate faster. Also she

"took her birth control in front of me"
This one is interesting because usually when they show me that they are on the pill, they are usually opened to banging. But apparently she wasn't this time

Second Date​

A week later, she hit me up to meet again. I "seeded the idea that she should buy me food" or some shit, since I paid for the first date. She was texting me, calling me “hot guy” and throwing compliments, so I knew it was a done deal. She wanted to go for a walk, which was boring as fuck. No thrill, no excitement, just felt like a chore. I closed, immediately wanted to end the date, lol. Like, I knew it was gonna happen


Later Developments

After the 3 time banging, she wanted to stay the night, she got clingy. She’s got this lingering energy, talks nonstop, like she might be on the spectrum or something. She won’t shut up. She got pissed when I wouldn’t spend the night at her place, giving me dirty looks. She went cold again for a bit, probably sulking. We still met up a couple more times, she said she had surgery and dog died blah blah blah. Didn’t bang those times, which was whatever. She still hits me up, and I’m not sure what I’ll do with her. She’s really annoying, and I’m pretty much done with her drama.

Also I did a test, I have an avoidant type of personality, definitely can't deal with too much social contacts and "communication" it's annoying. Some dude loves the girls who talks none stop.

Takeaways​

Most of my lays are first-date closes, but I’m wondering if going for second dates would give me a higher close rate with more girls? Or if it’s just a different social frame with some girls who won’t bang on the first date. An acquaintance says he closes on third, fourth, even fifth dates, but that feels like a sunk cost fallacy. If it gets to a third date, I feel like I fucked up somewhere. Badboy (croatian dude) talks about second dates having a higher close probability, and Mystery mentions this too, but he plays a high-social-value game, bringing girls into his frame to close them easier. He doesn’t mind socializing and gaming girls he brings along. Curious what you guys think about first-date closes versus playing the long game, and where you draw the line on pursuing if it’s not happening.