FR 4 DIRECT approaches a day challenge : Day1

[Spyce D]

As you know ... I have started my 4 approaches a day challenge .

Till now . I have approached 3 sets that too direct from the get go .

Only got thankyous and a really cute hello

Could have talked past but ejected after the opener .

Let's see I can make it one more .

 

[Spyce D]

I actually did 3 more but they were indirect.

 

[Spyce D]

Shit ! Opened another hottie but indirect.

She was coming from the front ...I opened yet but chickened out and asked for directions .

 

[Zoro]

Any reason you’re doing direct?

Direct can work, but indirect is more consistent.

Direct is polarizing.

Girls who are uninterested, you know right away.

Girls on the fence, will be forced to make a decision about you right away, which means the more solid your fundamentals and game is, the more will be interested. However you’ll have girls who would be interested turning you down because of how direct it is.

Then you’ll sometimes have girls who hook immediately and it’s basically a done deal.

It’s definitely a numbers game, meaning expect to do tons of approaches with rejection after rejection if you only do direct.

it’s not very useful, only in certain situations where you don’t have the time or it doesn’t make sense to do indirect.

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When I started doing indirect, I started getting the number of almost every girl I approached. This was after years of doing direct and getting rejected 9/10 times.

With direct the cat is out of the bag immediately, she knows you’re interested and is forced to decide.

With indirect, she’s not sure if you’re interested, and this is a bigger deal than you might expect. A woman with a mystery is like a cat with a toy. Indirect means you can actually practice some game.

Once you get over the fear, direct is so easy it’s a cop out. No creativity needed. I think that’s why it doesn’t work great. It only demonstrates confidence, and because the pressure is put on her immediately, she makes a decision about her interest based on what she immediately sees, your vibe and delivery of the approach, and the fact that you were bold.

With indirect, you must learn to be spontaneous and creative, but once you learn that, you will see better results than direct.

 

[Spyce D]

Any reason you’re doing direct?

Direct can work, but indirect is more consistent.

Direct is polarizing.

Girls who are uninterested, you know right away.

Girls on the fence, will be forced to make a decision about you right away, which means the more solid your fundamentals and game is, the more will be interested. However you’ll have girls who would be interested turning you down because of how direct it is.

Then you’ll sometimes have girls who hook immediately and it’s basically a done deal.

It’s definitely a numbers game, meaning expect to do tons of approaches with rejection after rejection if you only do direct.

it’s not very useful, only in certain situations where you don’t have the time or it doesn’t make sense to do indirect.

///

When I started doing indirect, I started getting the number of almost every girl I approached. This was after years of doing direct and getting rejected 9/10 times.

With direct the cat is out of the bag immediately, she knows you’re interested and is forced to decide.

With indirect, she’s not sure if you’re interested, and this is a bigger deal than you might expect. A woman with a mystery is like a cat with a toy. Indirect means you can actually practice some game.

Once you get over the fear, direct is so easy it’s a cop out. No creativity needed. I think that’s why it doesn’t work great. It only demonstrates confidence, and because the pressure is put on her immediately, she makes a decision about her interest based on what she immediately sees, your vibe and delivery of the approach, and the fact that you were bold.

With indirect, you must learn to be spontaneous and creative, but once you learn that, you will see better results than direct.

+1

Man...I actually did only indirect approaches since 1st July .

And it's true that indirect game actually helped me learn teasing , flirting , observational compliments but I don't know man ....I had no idea about transitioning ....

But indirect game taught me to give genuine compliments which I could only give after I was in convo with them by observing some unique about them.

Then there were guys telling me to go direct on this forums and others .
Some of my wings told me that indirect approaches don't count .

I agree with you that in indirect ...there is room for creativity ...

I have zero AA if I go indirect / warm ...
But always had issues ( still do ) while going direct so ....direct is also to get more confidence .

How do I make the best out of indirect Daygame ....

There is issue that in directional openers ...some chicks tell the directions and leave in hurry .

Talking about this set .

Shit ! Opened another hottie but indirect

Anyways ,.. these days I am more focused on opening hot chick indirectly or directly .

Is there any indirect game plan ...maybe in this forum ? I would love to read it .

 

[Zoro]

I think the directional opener is a weak opener. I understand why you’re using it, because you’re doing a street stop.

In that case, if you honestly do not have a way to open her with a more creative/situational opener, then go direct.

Look up indirect articles on the mainsite.

 

[Spyce D]

I think the directional opener is a weak opener. I understand why you’re using it, because you’re doing a street stop.

That's true .

But , this was the one that got me comfortable talking to the hotties .

In that case, if you honestly do not have a way to open her with a more creative/situational opener, then go direct

I know ... That's why I shifted more towards direct these days .

And I have improved my fashion sense ...cuz I know chicks judge.

But , I compliment on their fashion in a relaxed way ... Chill out style .

Look up indirect articles on the mainsite.

Thanks .

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

Any reason you’re doing direct?

Direct can work, but indirect is more consistent.

Direct is polarizing.

Girls who are uninterested, you know right away.

Girls on the fence, will be forced to make a decision about you right away, which means the more solid your fundamentals and game is, the more will be interested. However you’ll have girls who would be interested turning you down because of how direct it is.

Then you’ll sometimes have girls who hook immediately and it’s basically a done deal.

It’s definitely a numbers game, meaning expect to do tons of approaches with rejection after rejection if you only do direct.

it’s not very useful, only in certain situations where you don’t have the time or it doesn’t make sense to do indirect.

///

When I started doing indirect, I started getting the number of almost every girl I approached. This was after years of doing direct and getting rejected 9/10 times.

With direct the cat is out of the bag immediately, she knows you’re interested and is forced to decide.

With indirect, she’s not sure if you’re interested, and this is a bigger deal than you might expect. A woman with a mystery is like a cat with a toy. Indirect means you can actually practice some game.

Once you get over the fear, direct is so easy it’s a cop out. No creativity needed. I think that’s why it doesn’t work great. It only demonstrates confidence, and because the pressure is put on her immediately, she makes a decision about her interest based on what she immediately sees, your vibe and delivery of the approach, and the fact that you were bold.

With indirect, you must learn to be spontaneous and creative, but once you learn that, you will see better results than direct.

@Wick

With me, I experimented with both direct and indirect for 2 weeks.

Both styles got me the same amount of numbers

Someone told me that direct has a cap on it after you have maxed out your skill on it

I think you maxed out on direct and then when you switched up, your experience in game was able to maximize your results in indirect.

Compared to a noob that tries indirect and falls on his face

For your skill level switching over was the right move

Compared to me though, I started indirect when I was in the beginner to intermediate beginner stage.

I did not have the finesse with social skills/attunement and fundamentals that you probably had

Just my take on it.

@Spyce D

I think you should build your foundation with direct and then in a couple years take off flying with indirect.

That is what my plan for myself is at least

Once I start plateauing because I have maxed out on direct, it’s time for me to learn indirect and start improving again

However some few people stay direct all the way to advanced, they refine their sexual directness in way that allows them to improve

Not for everyone though

 

[funkyjam]

Direct is more sincere as opposed to indirect. It's clear from the beginning what the interaction is about. With indirect it can be tougher to keep the conversation going, talking about something you're not necessarily interested in or don't know much about. Direct is possibly high risk/high reward and you may risk coming on too strong from the start.

 

[Spyce D]

Direct is more sincere as opposed to indirect. It's clear from the beginning what the interaction is about. With indirect it can be tougher to keep the conversation going, talking about something you're not necessarily interested in or don't know much about. Direct is possibly high risk/high reward and you may risk coming on too strong from the start.

Yeah ....kind of true .

But it also depends on the vibe or maybe luck in the case of indirect .

I basically was bored of indirect in 2 weeks .

 

[Spyce D]

@Spyce D

I think you should build your foundation with direct and then in a couple years take off flying with indirect.

That is what my plan for myself is at least

Once I start plateauing because I have maxed out on direct, it’s time for me to learn indirect and start improving again

However some few people stay direct all the way to advanced, they refine their sexual directness in way that allows them to improve

Not for everyone though

See man , I built my comfort using indirect ....

Now I am going direct cuz that's the step I must take .

Funny thing is ..I lost my confident vibe when I went direct yesterday .

Even my confident voice .

Maybe it's due to the fact the direct open is very stressful for me ....

That's the main issue with me.

I can compliment a chick during convo but to open her directly has always been my kryptonite .

Got any idea on making direct less stressful for me ?
Or should I love the stress.

I am not able to enjoy direct ( atleast while saying the opener ) ....thats why I leave a lot of sets whom I could have opened direct .

 

[Spyce D]

Got any idea on making direct less stressful for me ?
Or should I love the stress.

I think I need to look for the root cause of stress .

 

[Zoro]

should I love the stress.

Bingo.

Think about what you are… you’re a human man. Designed to face down death to survive. At one point our ancestors have hunted with nothing more than crude tools made by their own hands, hunted big game that can fight back, as well as other men.

Modern life has made us soft.

Instead of trying to figure out why you’re stressed, focus on what you want to create. And then see what you must face and face it like a man who can face death.

Because it’s just a cute and silly girl, and your cute and silly excuses.

That being said, I encourage you to find out what is stressing you out, but do that separately and independently of the process I laid out above.

As an aid to address the stress, I would strongly suggest meditation.

 

[Spyce D]

That being said, I encourage you to find out what is stressing you out

Actually , I did found out .

Anyways , thanks for your detailed reply

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

@Spyce D

See man , I built my comfort using indirect ....

Now I am going direct cuz that's the step I must take .

Funny thing is ..I lost my confident vibe when I went direct yesterday .

Even my confident voice .

Maybe it's due to the fact the direct open is very stressful for me ....

That's the main issue with me.

I can compliment a chick during convo but to open her directly has always been my kryptonite .

Got any idea on making direct less stressful for me ?
Or should I love the stress.

I am not able to enjoy direct ( atleast while saying the opener ) ....thats why I leave a lot of sets whom I could have opened direct .

TBH I just think you need to do more approaches.

I had very similar problems to yours 7 months ago.

it all went way after I did around 100 approaches.

Simple solution, because at the core, you need to do exposure therapy for fear of talking to women.

And that is what Daygame is basically, exposure therapy

You talk to enough women, you won't be scared to talk to women anymore.