51 yr old asian dude uses Speed Seduction (NLP)

[Tony D]

The very first pickup advice I found were a bunch of Ross Jeffries speed seduction threads on MASF. Until now, I've never seen it used in an infield video. But I won't lie, I've tried it, and NLP pretty much laid the foundation for my verbal style. Except, I've always been fascinated with Poetry, and I've learned how to create the same emotional affects, but with Improv. Though, I'm considering going out one day, and just stacking routines and patterns as an experiment.

At first, the dude talks about dating his best friend's daughter. WTF? Lol. It's so gold though. Very 2005 pua. Educational, but you want to clear your cookies and shower after. Joke, that's a bit harsh.

What do you all think? Is these real? I bet he could have pulled with, "You're pretty. I have a pool. Come over and we'll have an Instagram party."

 

[Michael Chief]

I'm about 10 minutes or so into the video. Imagine approaching with a full on NLP routine sounding like some kind of cultist scammer like this dude does lmao

I did Speed Seduction stuff when I was in university. In theory it all made sense; emotions blah blah blah... But here's the thing... You can make people feel strong emotions, and you can guide those emotions in a conversation by just talking like a normal person, too. You can also use state projection without sounding like a weirdo.

I stopped consciously using Speed Seduction/NLP after getting feedback from multiple people telling me that I always sounded like I was reading from a script. I also asked a girl I slept with if the SS/NLP patterns I used had any effect. She said that I already made her feel what I was trying to make her feel even without those patterns.

Overall I deemed Speed Seduction methods to be too high effort with too low results to justify doing it. Besides, if you make it the basis of your game, what are you supposed to do with girls who aren't so good at English? The other nonverbal fundamentals of game are so much more important.