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fearlessuk

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Some where in London


F: excuse me, sorry, I know this is random.......but I just saw you from over there.........and .......I think you look very cute

NOTE: you touch her on her arm and you invaded her personal space. You also gave her good eye contact. This is good

HB: thank you

F: where you from, you look like you're from china?

HB: yes

F: I speak Chinese

HB: where are you from?

F: where do you think I'm from? India or Africa?

HB: maybe Japan?

F: why not India or Africa?

HB: it looks not

F: no no no ha. I was born here in the Uk, my parents are from HK

HB: ohh really

F: so what you doing down here, you look like you study or something.

NOTE: I make an observation, which is good

F: it looks like your exercising as well.

HB: I come here for a tourist.

NOTE: knowing she is a tourist, you can try and be more sexual with her and really just push for the lay. You should convey to all girls you are a sexual predator. Shower them with sois

F: oh so your here on holiday

HB: yeah

F: do you like it in UK?

NOTE: sort of not knowing what to say, just need to sarge more and write more FRs

F: why UK, it raining all the time, it's not good, its just er

HB: didn't understand

NOTE: tonality is going up, the first minute was good but afterwards you felt kind of awkward. Again you need to sarge more, write FRs and study some Pickup materials. Give yourself a month to adjust.

F: why UK, it's raining all the time.

F: why UK, for a hoilday, it's not a good place, I don't think.

HB: no, I really like

F: really oh , because I been here all my life, so

NOTE: You sound very miserable, sound too negative about UK, I need to snap out of it or change topics, This conversational thread is not working or helping you get laid. It's okay, takes time to rewire.

HB: I like it

F: yeah yeah yeah, are you from China right, you not from HK.

NOTE: I think I decided to plow, which is a good thing, even when things where not going quite so well. I'm just running out of things to say and the girl was not investing much. Plowing is definitely the right thing to do at this stage in the game for me. No matter what, I need to stay in set to get the reference experience I need for future lays.

HB: did you go HK

F: I been to HK as well, yeah yeah yeah. Have you been to HK, you should go

HB: yeah

F: Lets go now, lets fly to HK, Easy jet, you know haha nah I'm just kidding, so how long you staying for then?

HB: erm

F: a week

HB: just for a Dragon Boat hoilday, we have special food, rice inside

F: yes that's the poor mans food, my mum and dad use to make that (actually just my mum) my mum always make the triangle thing and there is no sugar in it.

HB: yes you have to

F: put some sugar on top

NOTE: next time, it's best to let her invest and speak instead of cutting her off. I know your nervous and quick to jump into helping her fill in the gaps. I think she really wanted to speak and you should let her.

F: I like the sticky rice, the sweat one. I don't like the one where you have to add sugar. It's very tasteless, there's no taste to it.

HB: in our hometown, we do the salty favour. It's got meat inside. The North do the plain one and the South they do salty meat one.

HB starts talking more about this food

F: can you make one for me, I feel hungry now

HB: laughs, I don't know how to do it

F: I don't know why, you make me feel hungry hehe nah nah I'm just kidding

NOTE: best not to say I'm just kidding. If you feel she doesn't know, then you can say it. If she is laughing there's no point in mentioning it. Less is more and conveys more higher value.

F: are you free right now, I like to have a cup of coffee with you, for about 5 minutes and then I have to

NOTE: better to say " you know what, I feel like a cup of coffee right now........ and........... I want you to join me for 5 minutes (showing your 5 fingers), as I need to get going soon.

HB: cuts me off "I need to

F: see a friend?

HB: I need to do more shopping and

F: that's why you came down here, shopping, it's not for the dragon boat thing.

HB: no, just came here for shopping

F: just for shopping yeah, because your a women and you like to buy handbags and buy lots of shoes.

HB: laughs yeah

F: so which part of China are you from then

HB: Fijian

F: Fijian, oh yeah

F: I never been there, South China yeah?

F: I been to Beijing and Canton

HB: It's close to Canton, maybe 3 hours by bus

F: yeah

F: so what do you do, you look like you might be a singer or something (she did not look like a singer and the joke did not stick)

HB: NO

F: are you a the Singer in I am singer 4?

HB: just normal

F: just normal. are you studying or?

HB: working

F: working, what do you do, whats the job?

HB: its like

F: a hand model

HB: blah blah marketing

HB tried to explain it but couldn't, turns out she works in retail

F: you should quit your job in China and move down here :)

Minutes 4.50
 

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continued

HB: we don't have the same visa as HK

F: really

HB: they have 2 years for work visa but we don't have

NOTE: this knowledge is important for future girls, its good to sound knowledgeable.

F: how long is the work visa then?

HB: 2 years

F: no for you

HB: we don't have

F: none?

HB: yeah

F: not even 3 months or half a year or?

HB: there's no company to hire staff from overseas.

F: I hire you, I just say "I want to hire this girl"

NOTE: you missed a chance to role play and tease her. "I hire you, you can clean my room and give me a foot massage" Whatever, just free associate with a role play a tease. Always, always be in the present moment.

HB: you

F: Me, I work in property management

Hb confused

F: have you heard of Foxtons?

HB: like someone renting a house?

F: yes, yes you got it. your a very smart women

F: i wish you can stay more, we can have some coffee

HB: yeah

F: and I get to know a very smart women like you :)

HB; which place you are?

F: huh ? Do you know where Barking is? I live in barking area, It's sort of far away and sort of near too

HB: why you here, are you off today

F: er, yes today is my off day but i finished dim sum with my friend. Because i was full, maybe go shopping and then i saw you and I thought wow, you look very pretty.

F: you look exactly like my type
NOTE: good soi

F: so how about you, have you been to Big ben and london eye?
NOTE: its good to talk about famous places in London.

HB: yes I do

F: have you been to Saint James park, where the king and queen lives?

HB: Big ben and london bridge

F: if you want, let me take you to saint james, its quite good

NOTE: don't ask for permission. You know what, lets go to saint James, come (and start walking) Don't give her an option to say no. When you instant date, you must give the girl a command. This increase's the odd's of it happening.

F: I was going to take you to see the Queen and have some sandwiches and scone with her. I know her and I know Prince Harry as well haha

HB :)

F: you look like a Harry Potter fan, are you a harry potter fan?

F: the way you look, the way you have the hair cut

HB :) but looks not good

F: no Harry Porter is good looking, he's got long hair and glasses

hb giggles

F: a lot of women fancy harry porter because he

HB: nah

F: has magic

F: can you do some magic or?

HB: no

F: come, come to coffee with me for 5 minutes

NOTE: good command her, don't give her an option

F: and then you can go shopping

F: because the shops close at 6 or 7 o clock

HB: no I got things to do

F: really, why you break my heart

F: come, 2 minutes

I change topics

F: what is that pointing at her t shirt blah blah blah

I make an other observation

F: I like the horse, where did you get that horse from?

pointing at her unicorn phone cover.

NOTE: Observations about what she is wearing or what she has on her makes interesting conversational threads for future dates.

HB: blah blah blah

F: whats her name (pointing at unicorn

HB: I forgot

F: Jane

HB: It's unicorn

F: unicorn, so where's you unicorn, is she at home?

HB: haha its ok

HB: it's an English joke

F: humour

F: I know, I got a lot of British humour, it's a bit funny and strange

F: it takes a while for you to understand, sorry.

HB :)

F: come have a cup of coffee, I buy you coffee

HB: no its okay :)

F: or you can watch me drink a cup of coffee

HB giggles

We see a bunch on nude people on bikes

HB: whats that

F: I don't know, it's, I think it's national no clothes day or something. I have no idea

F: does this happening in China like this

NOTE: you got to self amuse a bit more, its so much fun

HB: no

F: why in China they don't do like this

HB: maybe it's open mind in here

F: so in China they are not opened minded, do they allow this or will they get arrested

HB yeah

Both giggle

HB: first time for me to have this on the street

NOTE: this was a really fun moment for both of us, we connected really deeply even though she made a decision of not to take it further. Moments like this is just great.

F: oh my god, i think in China there's a lot of censorship, so you cant see these nude

HB: yeah

F: nude bodies and people with no clothes on. Is it illegal in China

HB: yeah illegal

F: have you heard of Huewai

HB: yeah yeah yeah

F: trump stop the block

HB: yeah

HB: and google

F: does it effect you if you have a Huewai phone?

HB: I'm using iphone haha

HB: maybe in future i will change to try

F: emm. why are you so pretty
NOTE: Good :)

Minutes 11.01
 

fearlessuk

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continued

F: emm. why are you so pretty

HB: Im not, theirs more pretty girls in China

F: Really, I didn't know that but your really pretty so

HB: look there lots over there

F: Nah I seen lot's of pretty girls and your the prettiest one.

F: I don't see an one prettier than you

HB: ok thanks :) I really need to go

F: are you the oldest in the family?

NOTE: good change topics

HB: yeah but have younger brtoher?

F: so your the mature one

HB: what does mature mean?

F: mature, like your the leader of the family

F: like you tell your brother what to do

HB: he doesn't listen to me

F: how much younger is he

HB: he is one year younger than me

F: ahh thats why he doesn't listen to you

F: is it because you annoy him

F: what did you do to annoy him

HB giggles

F: why he doesn't listen to you

HB: I think the boy is always naughty

F: would you say your a good girl then?

F: on the outside you look good but on the inside, you're quite naughty
NOTE: good role play

F: you not a naughty girl, only your brothers naughty

HB: yes :)

F: when you were younger, did you smack his bottom?

HB: no

F: did you tell mum and dad and they got the stick and smack.

HB; we always fight when we were young.

F: really what do you mean

HB: we were same age

F: did you strangle him?

HB: he did same to me

F; are you sure you don't want cup of coffee, you mouth is dry now.

HB: hmm

F: or do you like tea.

HB: nah its fine I really need to go :)

NOTE: whats strange is she say she has to go but her body tells me she is enjoying the conversation.

F; just for 5 minutes no, you break my heart

F: why, why i can't meet a girl like you

HB: we already talk more than 5 minutes

F: no it was about 30 seconds i think

HB: no

F: really, I would like to get to know you more but you interesting

HB: but i'm leaving now, I'm leaving soon

F: yeah yeah yeah, we can be friends, we don't have to, you know, even though your pretty, I like pretty friends so. we can go for a coffee and have a little chat.

F: and then bye bye and you can go shopping

HB: I really need to go

Change topics

F: are you planning to visit the whole of Europe or UK?

HB: no just here

F: why you don't travel the whole of Europe?

HB: we don't have enough holiday

HB: one country once a year

F: oh because the clothes shop, they only give you a little bit of holiday

F: you should marry me so you can have more holidays because in the Uk, you have more hoildays

HB smiles

F: hahaha I'm just kidding

F: if you thought i was serious, you run away

HB: nice talking to you

F: yeah, do you want to ride the bicycle naked?

F: if you do, I can ask them to

HB: no

F: you can demonstrate because in China if you demonstrate, you get arrested. If you go naked on a bicycle you get arrested.

F: In London its okay, you can take off your clothes, demonstrate and have that life experience.

HB: no :)

F: you don't want that life experience

HB: I don't like it

F: no no I'm just kidding
NOTE: good

both giggle

F: I like the way I say it and you don't know how to answer

HB: yeah okay :)

F: by the way, how old are you anyway, you look very young

HB: 30

F; really

F: why you look 23 or something

HB: I wish

F: so whats the secret?

HB spend money on skin care, I'm sorry I have to go

F: if you go, you break my heart

HB I so sorry and starts walking

HB: Bye bye

F: okay bye bye cute girl
 

fearlessuk

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Her name is Sarah

F: sorry, I know this is random .....and......... i just saw you from over there ....and.........i think you look very cute :)

NOTE: strong eye contact, kino and invade personal space. GOOD

HB: thank you

F: you from Japan

HB: China

F: Korean

F: really

F: I don't know why but you sounded a bit korean when

HB: well maybe some people think i'm Japanese

F: Knee jee duw, jang gwow you ma

hb surprised

F: war jee duw e then then

HB: where are you from?

F; where do you think I'm from, India or Africa?

HB: you

F: India? Africa

HB: no

both giggle

F: no i was born here

HB: London

F: yes but my parents from HK

HB: so you speak a little Chinese

F: yes a little Chinese

F; which part of china you from, you sound

HB: where you say haha

HB: I lived in Bejing for 15 years

F: 50 years, wow you look so young

HB get annoyed a bit and giggles

F: no no i just kidding
NOTE: It's a good idea to say your kidding if you not sure if you offended her. If she cracks up laughing you don't need to say it.

HB: before that i was in my home town, Fujing

F: I love your English, its very cute

HB: I been here for just 3 weeks

F; really wow, so you just new here

HB: I'm new here and i'm working here

F: is it a working visa or

HB: I'm not a student

F: you not a student but you look very young

HB: its the make up

F: its the make up, its the shark fin soup and abalone

NOTE: say birds nest soup next time. Shark fin doesn't do anything

F: I don't know if you free, right now

HB: I'm meeting my friend

F; you meeting your friend right now

F: I tell you what, i know your busy, I like to have a cup of coffee with you some day

HB: maybe not yet

F: not today, what im saying is maybe some other time

HB: yeah okay

F: let me take your number and we go for coffee some time

HB: ok

We exchange details.

I text her and she text back agreeing to the coffee date next weekend. It might happen, it might not, will see.

NOTE: i think one the main reason it work was because she fresh of the boat even though my game was not on.
 

fearlessuk

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F: your English sounds very American

HB: no no I study here

F: you study here, oh you from China

HB: Yes

F: you look like your in fashion or something

HB: thank you

F; my name is F, whats your name?

HB: my name is Shan

F: oh my cousins called Shan

HB: oh ok

F: haha

F; so what your doing down here anyway?

NOTE: Make statements instead of questions. It's similar but your making a judgement so it kind of turns into a mini cold read.

HB: here

F: what you doing down here? I mean you studying yes

NOTE: a bit nervous so you forgot she was studying.

F: I mean what are you doing right now

NOTE: she is getting nervous because your asking too many questions. Make statements in the future instead

HB: im repairing my iphone

F: really, you iphone cracked, why did you crack it?

HB blah blah blah

F: why did you break you iphone

NOTE: free association is not kicking, this will happen when you sarge more. Say you are good at body building but you don't havn't trained for a year. muscles kick in 2 to 3 months later when you get back in. Your free association muscle needs exercising and the more you go out, the more you will be able to free assoicate.

HB: because I was looking for something and my phone fell blah blah

F: did you find it

HB: yes

F: I think Iphone, they do it for free right?

HB: if you buy apple care, you can get it for free

F: you English is very good :) how come?

HB: no no

F: haha so how long you been in London for then?

HB: 3 years

F: Oh ok

F: the way I see it, your English is quite good

HB: haha

F: but it does sound a bit funny, I don't know why

hb haha

F: maybe you accent made it a little bit funny or

F: when you speak Chinese it's spoken in a certain way so

NOTE: coming across too serious lol. Obviously this thread is going no where hehe

F: are you the youngest one, you look like the youngest one in the family.

NOTE: conversation is not too bad, you have to turn them into statements. That's how you can come across interesting and different to all the other guys.

F: or are you the only one?

HB: only one

NOTE: if the girl is from China. its best to say "I can tell, your the only child in the family :) remember the one child policy

F: you so lucky, so your mum and dad gives you everything

HB: yeah

F: here, here, here, you can have this, daughter you want a car, no problem

F: you know what, I feel like a cup of coffee right now, I want you to join me for 5 minutes because i need to get going soon anyway

NOTE: I think you went for the instant date too fast, it's good you went for it anyway

HB: makes excuse to fix phone right now

F: afterwards, do you want to go for a cup of coffee or you don't want to

HB: sorry

F: ahh no problem, you take care yeah

HB: nice to meet you

F: no problem you take care.
 

fearlessuk

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HB: thank you

F: haha knee shui ji jung got ma

NOTE: you should make a statement instead " war jee dow, knee shui jung got da"

HB: shi

F; what you doing down here

HB; studying

F: oh your studying

NOTE: tonality is going up, you need to relax and deepen you voice

F: I don't know, you look very professional or something

NOTE: good observation

HB: I'm studying UCL

F: you look like you study fashion or something, I don't know

HB: I am

F: my name is F by the way, whats you name

HB: Ivy

We chat for an other minute or two and she goes. I can't be bothered to type this up as, it's the same mistakes as above and I addressed it all already.
 

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HB: ok so

NOTE: I became very nervous at this point and tried to explain myself. I got shoved into my head and went to thinking mode, which is bad for your game. Lucky I was able to get a good response from an other girl i opened later on. The key is to continue opening and don't feel bad or start getting into your head.

F: no I'm not trying to , er you know

HB: ok whats the point?

F: whats the point?

HB; yeah

F: I just wanted to get to know you kind of thing, it seems your being quite rude about it that's all

HB: really

F: don' worry, its ok, its fine, you take care yeah

HB: sorry about that

I walk away.

NOTE: next time say

F: Look...... I told you, you where cute....... and........... it looks like your being rude about this

F: look it's okay, it's fine, take care

walk away before she explains herself.

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NOTE: you dealt with it quite well as she was being a bitch. Some guys will give up at this point but you didn't. You still opened other girls afterwards. It's ok to open girls and tell them they are cute. You did absolutely nothing wrong. Some girls are quite bitchy about this and some girls are just happy that you went direct on her. As you game improves, you might be able to turn this around and end up fucking her.

Anyway way its not you concern in anyway and this is her believe system. There's plenty of girls out there that appreciate you. Stay carm and let the girl know, you think she is being rude. Walk away and don't listen to her excuses. Talk to other girls.

It gets easier and the more you sarges, where you don't feel a thing over time
.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

fearlessuk

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A quick note :)

I was talking to a Korean girl and she saw my lapel mic taped to my chest. I taped it too high lol. My racksack dragged my jumper down too much. Dam racksack. She was well pissed and rightly so. I ended up making a fake story as my face turned a bit red.

I learnt my lesson and taped it slightly lower. I'm glad it was her as i was too nervous as its been a while. It was fun and stupid at the same time lol
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HB: ok so

NOTE: I became very nervous at this point and tried to explain myself. I got shoved into my head and went to thinking mode, which is bad for your game. Lucky I was able to get a good response from an other girl i opened later on. The key is to continue opening and don't feel bad or start getting into your head.

F: no I'm not trying to , er you know

HB: ok whats the point?

F: whats the point?

HB; yeah

F: I just wanted to get to know you kind of thing, it seems your being quite rude about it that's all

HB: really

F: don' worry, its ok, its fine, you take care yeah

HB: sorry about that

I walk away.

NOTE: next time say

F: Look...... I told you, you where cute....... and........... it looks like your being rude about this

F: look it's okay, it's fine, take care

walk away before she explains herself.

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NOTE: you dealt with it quite well as she was being a bitch. Some guys will give up at this point but you didn't. You still opened other girls afterwards. It's ok to open girls and tell them they are cute. You did absolutely nothing wrong. Some girls are quite bitchy about this and some girls are just happy that you went direct on her. As you game improves, you might be able to turn this around and end up fucking her.

Anyway way its not you concern in anyway and this is her believe system. There's plenty of girls out there that appreciate you. Stay carm and let the girl know, you think she is being rude. Walk away and don't listen to her excuses. Talk to other girls.

It gets easier and the more you sarges, where you don't feel a thing over time
.

I wish I could edit my post and title if needed :/

A better responce would be

F: I'm hitting on you, I think you're very pretty :)

Give her time to process the information. If she is still being rude then say

F: I think you're being rude about this, look its okay, take care

and then walk away.
 
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