A bit of rant - never share flat/live with Non-seducers/players

[empath]

I am sharing a flat with 6 people and these retards think there is some risk on the whole group because of me bringing random girls to sleep with I don't know.

Even after telling them if anything happens or liability comes I will bear it.

These guys have decided to group together and asking me to leave the flat within a month.

Out of 5 guys 1 is in relationship and rest are single and never bring girls, even the guy in relationship never brings his girl.

One of the single guys was chill, at least initally and brings his female friends for party but does not bangs them. Heck we had agreed before sharing the room that I have a girlfriend and she will come over and other girls might too.

Now 2 guys who are fucking celibate, have no sex drive whatsoever and can't pull a chick have banded together against me and swayed the rest of the group.

And contened that I am harming their privacy, they feel uncomfortable.

While I only bring girls when my roomate is away (the supposedly chill guy who is not so chill now)

And the girl stays in my room, does not see them or disturb in any way.

What triggered this episode of they asking me to leave the house is on sunday I brought 3 different girls on the same day.

One of the girl slept over and I left for work and she by mistake left the main door open. (Other flatmates have left the door open too, heck they left the Geezer on, iron on other electrical appliances which can damage the house)

I have been chill to them.

But, these retards gang-up on the slightest mistake by me.

Now I don't want to leave the house because the rent is cheap, I was one of the people who found the deal, put efforts to set it up.

Also, if I leave my rent expense will become more than double. Because I will never share the room with anyone else, after this episode.

In this city even girls share rooms. so, not that I can go to their place to get laid.

Also, this flat has features which helps to pull girl easily, near pubs, public transport etc. spacious and has a terrace.

But if I stay I will be staying at their terms. No girls and they will force other things on me because of becoming a gang now, I being an outsider.

What to do?

Should I suck up? I will feel bad about myself and won't have much to do in my free time, nor do I want to do anything else as of now.

Also, this has triggered a bit of fear of abondonment and rejection in me. Not that I care about these retards but nevertheless.

I don't have energy and time to find new flat and then flatmates. Will take a month or two to find something I will be satisfied with.

Lastly, I have been living with them for a year and these people in various ways always tried to cockblock me try to change my views, make fun of me for bringing girls etc.

 

[Atlas IV]

Wow, that's a shitty situation. Brought back PTSD of my own flatting experiences.

I vowed never again to share a house with other random people, especially if our lifestyles are not cohesive.

Obviously the ideal option for you would be to move to a place where you're independent, but that sounds like it's not possible based on your situation.

Also, this flat has features which helps to pull girl easily, near pubs, public transport etc. spacious and has a terrace.

Those are great benefits, but if your flatmates won't let you pull girls it doesn't count for shit. Your only choice is to find another flat unfortunately.

Are you absolutely attached to your city such that you couldn't consider moving to another big metropolis (or another area) where you could rent your own place?

 

[empath]

Wow, that's a shitty situation. Brought back PTSD of my own flatting experiences.

I vowed never again to share a house with other random people, especially if our lifestyles are not cohesive.

Obviously the ideal option for you would be to move to a place where you're independent, but that sounds like it's not possible based on your situation.


Those are great benefits, but if your flatmates won't let you pull girls it doesn't count for shit. Your only choice is to find another flat unfortunately.

Are you absolutely attached to your city such that you couldn't consider moving to another big metropolis (or another area) where you could rent your own place?

I am in the biggest metro of my country.

It has most beautiful girls, open minded. Constatant supply of new girls who move to city for studies, internship and work.

Good nightlife compared to other cities.

I have looked into but lack of girls and work opportunity.

Flat change is only option with substantially less people who are open-minded.

I agree benefits don't count anything.

Other option is to wait for these assholes to move.

Two of 5 might in next 2-3 months.

But they have still fucked the situtation for me with rest of flatmates.

 

[KJ Francis]

Whose name is on the lease? Is there a no visitors clause? What are they going to do if you just ignore them... Lock the laundry room??

I'd offer to help them with their dating app profiles.

sunday I brought 3 different girls on the same day

Nice work man

 

[empath]

Whose name is on the lease? Is there a no visitors clause? What are they going to do if you just ignore them... Lock the laundry room??

I'd offer to help them with their dating app profiles.



Nice work man

Lease is on the name of 4 people.

They don't want to date. Fucking AFCs. Fuckers are happy hangaing out with other boys. Conservative idiots.

Well if I get owner involved. It will be me against 3 and society is filled with old people even owner is an old person so if they say he brings a lot of girls over I will be the one who will need to leave the flat.

 

[POB]

Leave now!!!
You can stay in a cheap hostel for a few days till you figure out your situation.
Extra stuff can stay on a private locker.

Put all women on hold, take care of the home situation first.
Get out of that place so the bad energy won't affect you big time.

 

[empath]

Leave now!!!
You can stay in a cheap hostel for a few days till you figure out your situation.
Extra stuff can stay on a private locker.

Put all women on hold, take care of the home situation first.
Get out of that place so the bad energy won't affect you big time.

Seems like the best call.

Thanks thats all needed to hear.

Can't fight a group.

Though I really don't want to because I took lot of efforts to set the flat. Get the right cook, everything and finding people to share flat is very hard.

But seems I don't have a choice.

Also, putting women on hold is a good call because yeah I am feeling drained and I don't want to affect them.

 

[KJ Francis]

Lease is on the name of 4 people

Is your name one of these?

Even if they complain to the owner, unless the lease says no visitors, does he have the ability to do anything? I don't know what it's like there, but in some places you can literally stop paying rent and nothing happens for months until it goes through the eviction courts. Then they have to go to separate small claims court to get the back rent. If you are paying rent and following the rules, I don't see the actual impact.

I agree with POB if it is emotionally affecting you then it's important to leave asap, as long as it does not cause a major financial issue.

But I am struggling to see what any of these guys can actually do besides shoot dirty looks at you.

 

[empath]

Is your name one of these?

Even if they complain to the owner, unless the lease says no visitors, does he have the ability to do anything? I don't know what it's like there, but in some places you can literally stop paying rent and nothing happens for months until it goes through the eviction courts. Then they have to go to separate small claims court to get the back rent. If you are paying rent and following the rules, I don't see the actual impact.

I agree with POB if it is emotionally affecting you then it's important to leave asap, as long as it does not cause a major financial issue.

But I am struggling to see what any of these guys can actually do besides shoot dirty looks at you.

First step they have taken is change my roommate.

My roommate is not in the city for most of the weekend so now they are changing the roomate to one who stays at home.

I can't ask him to leave the room per say.

So I can stay nothing gets affect except my ability to pull the girls.

But I can't live without not having sex and pulling girls thats the reward for me after hard work.

Unwilling dry spell.

Overall negativity in the house.

On top of that making jokes and everything.

So yeah no point sitting on just roof with a girl.

Don't have an empty place in house for having sex.

 

[bkw]

That's a crappy situation. Believe you me, I have experienced similar situations where I live in Manhattan, where you have to make a good deal of money to feel comfortable renting a decent apartment here alone. I don't make a lot of money for the city, so I share the apartment.

I had one situation where I rented out a room with the landlord who also lived in the same apartment, who was a diehard Christian, and she confronted me about it and basically asked me to leave. In the lease agreement it said for no one to stay over, which I violated once when a girl I was seeing at the time got sick from alcohol we were drinking, and I let her stay the night. Long story short, they kept my security deposit because of this, and I moved shortly after. It's been a struggle finding the right balance between good logistics and people that are cool, etc.

Honestly, once the dynamics are fucked between you and the roommates, it is very unlikely it will improve. That tension will always be there. For us, pickup is a big deal, and inviting girls over is also a big deal. With that said, you CAN find roommates who are more chill, but you always have to respect them and the times of day/night you are being girls over.

I'd say, find another place to live with roommates who are more chill because the situation you find yourself in is unlikely to change, especially since it's like 5 against 1. Unfortunately, when you share space with others there will always be a compromise to some extent, and if this compromise is a dealbreaker then you should find a better situation where they don't care, or care as much (it can happen).

I've contemplated asking PUA guys before in renting out an apartment together, but my life experience tells me it's probably not the best idea because at any point any of them can leave, and then you're basically renting out to "normal" people again. And in some way, there is some truth in bringing strangers all the time to the apartment can be a little risky.

I'd say, move, find another situation that is more conducive to what you want where there is a satisfactory compromise with you and the roommates. Curretnyl, this compromise is a dealbreaker with your current roommates, it seems.

 

[KJ Francis]

First step they have taken is change my roommate.

My roommate is not in the city for most of the weekend so now they are changing the roomate to one who stays at home.

Ok yeah, sounds like it's time to go.

 

[TomInHo]

Man this sucks

But this is actually very normal sadly

When most guys see you pulling girls often they tend to get jealous. It's just a natural human thing and it even happens with players too

That's one of the reasons why I've learned to keep things low key and do my best to not be too blatant about bagging girls. If you're too in your face about your antics it can create a lot of silent enemies

So in your case you should be looking for a way to live solo

Because trust me, even if you move out and find guys that are cool and good with girls to live with. Something else will most likely come up and you're just delaying the inevitable

Can't get mad at humans being human. But you can create an environment for yourself that gives you more peace and reduces your need to rely so much on others

 

[empath]

Man this sucks

But this is actually very normal sadly

When most guys see you pulling girls often they tend to get jealous. It's just a natural human thing and it even happens with players too

That's one of the reasons why I've learned to keep things low key and do my best to not be too blatant about bagging girls. If you're too in your face about your antics it can create a lot of silent enemies

So in your case you should be looking for a way to live solo

Because trust me, even if you move out and find guys that are cool and good with girls to live with. Something else will most likely come up and you're just delaying the inevitable

Can't get mad at humans being human. But you can create an environment for yourself that gives you more peace and reduces your need to rely so much on others

But its not jealousy on their part.

I wish they were jealous but these are against casual sex.

Thinking of taking a single occupany (own room) and telling prospective flatmates I live lifestyle of partying hard and bring girls often, will say female friends and they tend to stay over.

 

[Chase]

Though I really don't want to because I took lot of efforts to set the flat. Get the right cook, everything and finding people to share flat is very hard.

But seems I don't have a choice.

New flatmate screening question:

"Do you like pussy? Yes or no?"

 

[empath]

New flatmate screening question:

"Do you like pussy? Yes or no?"

I take it you are saying it as a joke.

Well I can ask if they are sexually active but it sounds retarded.

 

[Chase]

I take it you are saying it as a joke.

Well I can ask if they are sexually active but it sounds retarded.

Yeah, I mean, the real screening is that, just slightly veiled:

"I live a pretty modern lifestyle; I'm not in a steady relationship, and I do have girls around. I'm looking for roommates who are cool and modern; I know not everyone is and don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. Does that sound like it'd be a fit for you or not a fit?"

If you're running a classified ad for roommates, you do some version of that, just a bit more veiled. References to partying, house guests, modern lifestyle; "looking for people who are cool and social or at least don't mind frequent fun house guests."

That should weed out the sticks in the mud.

-C

P.S. screening for housemates is like screening chicks. You can find some great ones if you just screen properly. When I've had housemates that was always a question I'd ask before moving in: "How do you feel about me having friends, girls, etc. over?" If they get uncomfortable and start saying stuff like, "Well, if it's a long-term girlfriend, that's okay," then immediately you know it is not a fit. Every housemate I've had has been cool thanks to just doing a little preliminary screening like this.

 

[TomInHo]

Yeah, I mean, the real screening is that, just slightly veiled:

"I live a pretty modern lifestyle; I'm not in a steady relationship, and I do have girls around. I'm looking for roommates who are cool and modern; I know not everyone is and don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. Does that sound like it'd be a fit for you or not a fit?"

If you're running a classified ad for roommates, you do some version of that, just a bit more veiled. References to partying, house guests, modern lifestyle; "looking for people who are cool and social or at least don't mind frequent fun house guests."

That should weed out the sticks in the mud.

-C

Well I've done something like this

Had a period where I had room mates that liked to party too

But in the long run they ended up getting passive aggressive about me pulling girls and doing weird things to sabotage.

Getting "cool" roommates can be a decent short term solution but in the long run if you're very successful with getting laid and pull more or hotter girls than your roommates friction can still happen

Men will be men and if they are also good with women please believe they will be very competitive

It even got to point I would have to spend more time with my lovers in their own place to avoid that friction

Living solo is the best long term solution IMO and plus it's not like you're planning on living with people forever so why not also make that a long term goal?

Trust me it will save you lots of energy trying to micro manage other peoples insecurities and egos

 

[empath]

Well I've done something like this

Had a period where I had room mates that liked to party too

But in the long run they ended up getting passive aggressive about me pulling girls and doing weird things to sabotage.

Getting "cool" roommates can be a decent short term solution but in the long run if you're very successful with getting laid and pull more or hotter girls than your roommates friction can still happen

Men will be men and if they are also good with women please believe they will be very competitive

It even got to point I would have to spend more time with my lovers in their own place to avoid that friction

Living solo is the best long term solution IMO and plus it's not like you're planning on living with people forever so why not also make that a long term goal?

Trust me it will save you lots of energy trying to micro manage other peoples insecurities and egos

Majorly Finances and a bit there is a bit comfort and security when living with some other people.

 

[TomInHo]

Majorly Finances and a bit there is a bit comfort and security when living with some other people.

Okay. Good luck then

 

[iceberg slim]

That sucks dude. They sound like some jealous lames.

As a source of encouragement, my current roommate has seen me bring a number of girls over and he's chill about it. I think he actually thinks it's cool. I got lucky because I didn't even screen for that. My point is you can find good roommates, so split!