A bit of rant - never share flat/live with Non-seducers/players

[Aussiedude]

baha good work on 3 girls in a single day. What about a studio apartment? You can find some pretty affordable ones, especially if they're a bit further out. Otherwise, find better house mates who mind their business I guess.

 

[S.S Can]

Suffering from success though. I wouldn't mind being able to say that my flatmates banded against me and kicked me out because I was getting too much pussy.

 

[JT Sunshine]

Is it feasible for you to purchase a house and rent a couple rooms out to cover the cost of the mortgage? I had a buddy who did that - bought a three bedroom, rented two of the rooms for half the cost of the mortgage each and is basically getting his house paid off for free. He can do whatever he wants cause it’s his house.

Such a shitty situation man, I’ve been there before and eventually bit the bullet and moved into my own place. Bad roommates are the worst cockblocks

 

[Chase]

Well I've done something like this

Had a period where I had room mates that liked to party too

But in the long run they ended up getting passive aggressive about me pulling girls and doing weird things to sabotage.

Getting "cool" roommates can be a decent short term solution but in the long run if you're very successful with getting laid and pull more or hotter girls than your roommates friction can still happen

Men will be men and if they are also good with women please believe they will be very competitive

It even got to point I would have to spend more time with my lovers in their own place to avoid that friction

Living solo is the best long term solution IMO and plus it's not like you're planning on living with people forever so why not also make that a long term goal?

Trust me it will save you lots of energy trying to micro manage other peoples insecurities and egos

Good intel.

My longest stretch with housemates post-college was around 4 months. Temporary situation downgrading from a pricey solo pad before leaving town after a layoff.

The house owner got laid semi-regularly and was pumped up about me pulling chicks. Liked picking my brain about the stuff.

But who knows, maybe in time he'd have gotten jealous?

Other roommate situations have been shorter than that.

I had a trio of buddies who all lived together and picked up chicks together. They had that situation going for a couple of years.

Probably more sustainable if the guy is directly involved in PUA.

Chase

 

[Chase]

Is it feasible for you to purchase a house and rent a couple rooms out to cover the cost of the mortgage? I had a buddy who did that - bought a three bedroom, rented two of the rooms for half the cost of the mortgage each and is basically getting his house paid off for free. He can do whatever he wants cause it’s his house.

Such a shitty situation man, I’ve been there before and eventually bit the bullet and moved into my own place. Bad roommates are the worst cockblocks

You don't even need to buy to do this!

I did this for a stretch back in the day. Search out a nice apartment with multiple bedrooms in a good location available at a good price -- you have to do your research but you will find them eventually (usually not advertised well, or they'd be snapped up). Rent it, sublet the rooms with ads on classifieds, AirBNB, etc. You can get a place for say $2000/mo and rent out one of the rooms for $1350/mo. Get a 3 BR, rent out both other rooms, and you're making decent money just from renting an apartment & subletting the rooms. Rental arbitrage!

Only problem is the vacancies, having to find new renters, etc. But if you're in a popular city and you found a place that's a legitimate great value + know how to find renters it's usually not too much of a hassle.

(some friends thought me doing this was ingenious and we had the bright idea that we should try it as a business. Well let me tell you it is one thing renting out the rooms in a place you already live in; it is another thing entirely subletting all the rooms in an apartment you do NOT live in that is a 30-minute walk away from your place and you are basically playing landlord while also having a landlord of your own to answer to. We got our first full apartment profitable and staffed with 2/3 long-term tenants with the third room rotating among short-term stay renters, but by the time we took on a second apartment the management of it all was simply a nightmare. Better just to start a property management firm or be an outright landlord purchasing the buildings than to do the whole "rental market arbitrage" deal... except in a place you're already staying in)

Chase

 

[empath]

That sucks dude. They sound like some jealous lames.

As a source of encouragement, my current roommate has seen me bring a number of girls over and he's chill about it. I think he actually thinks it's cool. I got lucky because I didn't even screen for that. My point is you can find good roommates, so split!

I really want to live with someone who likes to go out and pick up girls. Maybe a natural if not PUA.

You are lucky man, most guys would get jealous.

You share same room or a flat with separate room? Curious where he sleeps if your girl is staying over?

 

[empath]

Good intel.

My longest stretch with housemates post-college was around 4 months. Temporary situation downgrading from a pricey solo pad before leaving town after a layoff.

The house owner got laid semi-regularly and was pumped up about me pulling chicks. Liked picking my brain about the stuff.

But who knows, maybe in time he'd have gotten jealous?

Other roommate situations have been shorter than that.

I had a trio of buddies who all lived together and picked up chicks together. They had that situation going for a couple of years.

Probably more sustainable if the guy is directly involved in PUA.

Chase

So have you lived mostly solo?

Curious whats your take on rental expense as % of income. Especially in a big city say like Manhattan or something where rent is costly.

Side note, what if your background is humble?

 

[empath]

Is your name one of these?

Even if they complain to the owner, unless the lease says no visitors, does he have the ability to do anything? I don't know what it's like there, but in some places you can literally stop paying rent and nothing happens for months until it goes through the eviction courts. Then they have to go to separate small claims court to get the back rent. If you are paying rent and following the rules, I don't see the actual impact.

I agree with POB if it is emotionally affecting you then it's important to leave asap, as long as it does not cause a major financial issue.

But I am struggling to see what any of these guys can actually do besides shoot dirty looks at you.

Thanks for that no visitor part idea man.

Until I find a suitable place, I will just say if I can't bring girls, so similarly your buddies should not come.

 

[KJ Francis]

Thanks for that no visitor part idea man.

Until I find a suitable place, I will just say if I can't bring girls, so similarly your buddies should not come.

Nice, yeah do what you can to gain some semblance of control over your situation. That is rough psychologically to be fucked around in your own home, like someone placing a different roommate in your own bedroom... I can't imagine.

You're in India? It's common here for Indian students to cram two to a room. I lived in various 5 bedroom houses and some smaller shared apartments. I would never again want to live with even one other guy, and would sooner get an office rental and shower at the gym.

I'm in a medium American city. Studio apartment, exactly 20% of gross income, including all utilities, internet, parking, etc. except laundry cost.

 

[empath]

Nice, yeah do what you can to gain some semblance of control over your situation. That is rough psychologically to be fucked around in your own home, like someone placing a different roommate in your own bedroom... I can't imagine.

You're in India? It's common here for Indian students to cram two to a room. I lived in various 5 bedroom houses and some smaller shared apartments. I would never again want to live with even one other guy, and would sooner get an office rental and shower at the gym.

I'm in a medium American city. Studio apartment, exactly 20% of gross income, including all utilities, internet, parking, etc. except laundry cost.

Mine would go approx. 35-40% if I don't share the room.

Not in whole India but in my City.

Rentals are throuh roof here.

So sharing room with 2 or even 3 people is common.

Casual dating is not very espically for masses. Kids with rich parents or medium to high earner engage in it, most guys don't worry about not sharing room. 75-80% of people I have met just go to work, come home talk to friends or family, watch reels and sleep. Weekends are spent lounging at home or doing chores. Pretty boring lifestyle.

Especially if you want to avoid commute to work. Which takes anywhere around 1-1.5 hour a side, so 2-3 hours in total and is draining physically.

 

[KJ Francis]

Mine would go approx. 35-40% if I don't share the room.

Not in whole India but in my City.

Rentals are throuh roof here.

So sharing room with 2 or even 3 people is common.

Casual dating is not very espically for masses. Kids with rich parents or medium to high earner engage in it, most guys don't worry about not sharing room. 75-80% of people I have met just go to work, come home talk to friends or family, watch reels and sleep. Weekends are spent lounging at home or doing chores. Pretty boring lifestyle.

Especially if you want to avoid commute to work. Which takes anywhere around 1-1.5 hour a side, so 2-3 hours in total and is draining physically.

Wow that is rough. I spend more time walking a couple blocks from parking than driving.

I did not see any quality wings here, but you may want to check out Game Global. Maybe you will get lucky finding a roommate there given how big the population is. It wouldn't have to be the perfect wing, but anyone on there would likely be ok with the lifestyle of bringing girls back home.

 

[empath]

Wow that is rough. I spend more time walking a couple blocks from parking than driving.

I did not see any quality wings here, but you may want to check out Game Global. Maybe you will get lucky finding a roommate there given how big the population is. It wouldn't have to be the perfect wing, but anyone on there would likely be ok with the lifestyle of bringing girls back home.

Yeah idk if they are good with girl or not.

As long as the guy is positive and put efforts. I'm fine sharing room, I know we will grow tohether.

 

[Chase]

So have you lived mostly solo?

Yeah, it's just easier.

Curious whats your take on rental expense as % of income. Especially in a big city say like Manhattan or something where rent is costly.

Should never be more than 25% of your income. Ideally <20%.

If it's higher than that you either need to get a better job or you need to change locations -- or you are going to be living paycheck to paycheck and likely never getting ahead.

(you see a lot of people paying heavy chunks of their paychecks while "hoping to make it" -- few ever do!)

Side note, what if your background is humble?

Not sure I understand what this means. Do you mean what if you are not well-off financially?

Same rules apply.

Keep rent 25% of income or below. If it's not, find cheaper accommodations, find better employment, or move.

Chase

 

[empath]

Yeah, it's just easier.



Should never be more than 25% of your income. Ideally <20%.

If it's higher than that you either need to get a better job or you need to change locations -- or you are going to be living paycheck to paycheck and likely never getting ahead.

(you see a lot of people paying heavy chunks of their paychecks while "hoping to make it" -- few ever do!)



Not sure I understand what this means. Do you mean what if you are not well-off financially?

Same rules apply.

Keep rent 25% of income or below. If it's not, find cheaper accommodations, find better employment, or move.

Chase

Yeah I mean, not well off financially.

Thanks got it, recently read something on consumption smooting (basically borrowing from future for living good lifestyle now) good idea in theory bad in practice.

Agreed living solo is easier.

Thanks again.