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A girl that's too much sometimes

Kopesh

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All right,I'd like to start first of all,with saying I read a lot of the posts on the main site,and to be honest,I loved them all.Every post delivered the information I wanted,with no delays of any sort.It was a pleasure reading them,and I will keep reading them in the future,too.Very educational :)

This will be kind of long,but I would greatly appreciate your effort if you'd read and reply to it,because it is something that has been hacking my mind for a long time,and I really need the advice of someone else to know what to do.You know,I need feedback :)

Right,I'll get to the topic.I started college last year in october ,and I have about 25 girls in my class,and there was this girl I really liked.At that time,I wasn't reading your site and book,so I had kind of no idea as to how to approach her,talk to her,seduce her etc.At the beginning,I was kind of ignoring her,meaning I wasn't getting into a conversation with her,but I was exchanging eye contacts with her,and she was most of the time smiling at me.I knew I should have approached her,but at that time I was too afraid of rejection,so I stood back.
Also,she was,and still is,surrounded by a group of girlfriends,almost 90% of the time we are at school,so approaching her directly seems kind of hard.
So,I got over this fear,and actually started to approach her,and since she was hardly alone,I tried to approach her group.The thing is,almost every time I approached her,she was very resistant towards me,almost always responding with bare minimum,to avoid looking rude.It's not like all the other girls in my class,when I ask them something they respond quite often energetic,and start talking quite openly,No,this girl,wasn't like the others.
Now,I like her because of her looks,and her intelligence.She is one of the smartest out there.
At the beginning when I was approaching her,she wasn't that resistant towards me.She was smiling,quite happy that I was around her,but we never really got past small talk,cause I was very nervous about making a mistake,so I didn't really know what to ask her next.We had alot of awkward silences and things like that.
The thing Is,almost everytime I talked to her,either in private(not many times),or in front of her group,I was getting very nervous,and while i am a very sociable guy(I don't like sitting alone and not talking to anyone,I always try to find someone to talk to,and I'm very picky about my girlfriend/guy friends,I don't have many guy friends because I seek quality over quantity.),I didn;t really know how to actually talk to her.I was making some mistakes,like acting different around her,asking her friend some questions about her(i do take weekly trips with her best girlfriend,and I get nervous with her too,albeit slightly less,and sometimes I end up boring her,having awkward silences,and not really bonding with her).I don't really know what to say about this,but she felt something was wrong with me ,she felt I was nervous around her,something I am NOT when I am not near her.I am a very energetic guy,I interact with many people around me,and generally bond with them,and I have a well developed sense of humor.
So she began turning colder and colder towards me.
I used once to just hang around her(and her group) when we were waiting for long periods of time .I didn't get past small talk,we weren't really having a real conversation,just tidbits of exchanged lines between long periods about things she wasn't really interested in,she was sometimes trying to evade my presence by silently fading away and going to her friends,I was silently stalking her,staying around her,trying to figure out something to say to her.Sometimes she wasn't paying attention to me,turning her head away from me(manytimes),and generally didn't quite like my presence cause she felt I was needy towards her.

I always greet her,we still exchange eye contacts,but she's getting colder and colder.When I try to aproach her,lately she responds in such a way that says "why are you talking to me?what do you want?".She can feel I need her social acceptance.Yesterday for example,she walked past me in the subway station,rushing to catch the train,she got in the train,turned towards me,not looking into my eyes,but looking in my immediate vincinity.I am 100% sure she saw me,but avoiding me.I was waving her goodbye for 5 seconds,but she didn't see me,or should I say avoided looking into my eyes and waving back goodbye,while she was looking towards me,not directly at me.

So,what should I do?The fact is,I really like this girl,but I hate the treatment I got last time I saw her.I read the article on this site about getting thrown under the bus,and It made much sense.Shall I go cold on her,as a punishment for how she behaved to me?Shall I cut all contact to her,and not even greet her at all?Shall I avoid aproaching her group altogether?If I catch her alone sometime,shall I aproach her again?If yes,in what way?I don't want to seem needy to her again,I know that kills all the attraction,but still,If I dont move forward,she will never move forward too.
From next week,I will take some weekly trips with her(the first time ever) and her group,and this trip will last about 30 minutes or so,it's something we have to do for school,we're notdirectly involved into it,we're just going together cause we're both going the same way.What shall I do here?aproach her group and ignore her?aproach her again ?
I am kinda lost with this girl :)
 

Kopesh

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Thanks for the reply,but I've already read those articles.Sure,they have been great,but i'm abit in the dark about it.
I mean,the only time I can aproach her group is when we take that weekly trip that lasts 30 minutes.That's it.So,socially,that's the only time when it makes sense for me to be around this group,and this girl I like.If I try to win her group over some other time than when we are supposed to be together,she will quickly(immediately should Isay) realise I am trying to win her friends over cause of her.
She has a pretty isolated group of friends(at college,Im not talking about her other life back home),they don't talk much to other people around them(they don't have social problems ,no,they do talk to people around them,but not always),so it will feel kinda awkward if I try to aproach her group like I would aproach anyone else.For example,what am I supposed to do?walk to the other corner of the class and start talking to the group,try to win them over,ignore the girl,and hope she misread me and she shows interest in me again,little by little?It's abit hard for me to do,this,and I think i'm missing a point.

The only time I am socially allowed near her group without making it awkward and obvious to her I am trying to aproach/talk to her/show my interest in her is this trip.Anything I should do special about this?Or shall I just say "screw it",and the next time I catch her alone,I should talk to her like nothing happened,like we just met,and try to aproach her directly and show my interest in her and move things forward in a natural way?

If anyone could detaliate about this situation,I would be very grateful,because there are more nuances to this issue than you might know,and a simple link to a good post might not help me,in this case.
THanks in advance!
 

Kopesh

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Well,I finally managed to properly connect to a girl in her group,and she doesn't view me as a stranger anymore.But still,there is a lot of work to be done.
Could anyone give me some advices/feedback,please?:)Very much appreciated
 
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