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About flaking on her 1st.. Do you guys even do this?

DarkKnight

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Hey all,

Today I saw the new article where Chase pretty much outlines the dynamics of flaking first.. and a bit of her flaking first. But this time I want to focus on us flaking..

I have mixed feelings about this tactic, since it seems pretty contrived and playing with fire... girls already tend to go to autorejection fast with me.. In that case this tactic is more applicable when you really want a girl, but you need to up the attraction/mental investment and are cool with extending the timeline (risk of investing more feelings in her though, kind of a double edged sword if you do not have abundance or mental control). Then again if I interpreted it well Chase mentions that when you use it as a tactic, girls seem to sense this, lowering the intended effect. He pretty much uses this when he is genuinely busy, or has low interest/ better things to do. In that case what remains of the effectiveness of an orchestrated flake?

The big redeeming factor for this tactic seems to be getting out of boyfriend categorization... I'm down with that man.

Anyway I have never used this shit purposely... but I'm willing to bet some of you guys have. For that reason I request if you can relate your experiences. Especially the elite boys.
 

West_Indian_Archie

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>I have mixed feelings about this tactic, since it seems pretty contrived and playing with fire

Scarcity is a motivator.

The article touches on it, the best way to do it is to be genuinely busy.
I would tweak any explanatory communications for it to be genuinely busy with other people, rather than work/school.

That said, if you don't have the number of women coming through your pipeline to try this without a dating catastrophe, don't do it.
Focus on the fundamentals of pulling chicks into your orbit, hooking up on dates, before you try to use scarcity as a motivator.

WIA
 

Witcher

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Hey DK

I remember reading about this tactic on Chase newsletter, even tough this articles goes into way more details. For now never got the chance to use it, many reasons for that,I am generally not a flakey person and believe into keeping on my word weather with anyone, if I say i'am coming unless there is a big obstacle, i'am going to make it. Second I am not yet into an absolute abduance that I have so much girls around me that I will use flakes as a tactic, quite the contrary girls in my region are SO FLAKEY and so hard to schedule stuff with that having a date agreement is itself an accomplishment and you will generally not get such an idea and will lean more into the flake prevention strategies.

Now, as Chase stated in the article, the feeling you get when flaked are legitimate and maybe I should use this with girls in my region. Like giving them a taste of your own medicine, since they flake on most guys sometimes on purpose and most guys don't do the same.

Then again if I interpreted it well Chase mentions that when you use it as a tactic, girls seem to sense this, lowering the intended effect.

Now i'am not a manipulative person by nature and everytime I used this kind of stuff in order to get a desired response from girls, it backfired. I don't want to find myself into a flake game with a girl.

Now how do I see myself using this tactic but only opportunistically. If I have a date and I have to cancel it because of another important matter, I know this will not ruin my chance with the girl but actually help me. In this context I don't have to choose between my urgent matter and the girl and can get both of them. The other one would be if a girl give me a date that is not appropriate for me and remain inflexible, I may use that too.

So what were my 2 cents on this.
 
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DarkKnight

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If I have a date and I have to cancel it because of another important matter, I know this will not ruin my chance with the girl but actually help me. In this context I don't have to choose between my urgent matter and the girl and can get both of them.

Sharp! Thanks for taking your time.
 

ulrich

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I haven’t used it but I can recall at least 5 times where it would have been the right call.

I’m talking about dates where I was more than 50% sure the girl was going to bail me and she did. I wish I had known this tactic then.
 
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