Advice to your younger self

[Rakehell]

Hey guy’s,

to make this short I recently graduated highschool (yay). I plan on studying abroad in the UK and continuing my seducers journey out there.

I’ve been going seriously hard on my social skills
since the beginning of this year trying to refine them and maximize them. I’ve quickly progressed and so have my abilities with girls.
I’ve mostly been focused on connecting with strangers and cold approaching, attempting to make friends wherever I go.

Some of my approaches have been blowouts, other times I just wasn’t in the headspace to hold a conversation so I let her get away.

I’ve had success and failure but I try and learn from every interaction. I find myself discouraged and equally motivated at the fact that there is still so much to improve on. It’s bitter yet sweet.

I even find improvement needed in my nonverbals and fundamentals which before this year I’d have told you were perfect.

I was lucky enough to be blessed with good genetics but have let alot of girls slip away in the past so I think that’s why i’m so headstrong on getting super super good at game.

As of lately I’ve found myself restless and on days where theres nothing to do I go out in search of practice. Sometimes I’ll only run into one girl which really blows me. Or i’ll run into a girl who’s in a negative state that lets their anger out on me.

I crave socialization at this point and opportunities have been slim lately lol.

I guess my reason for making this post is to ask for any advice you guys have for me as a younger seducer serious on climbing to the top of the social skills/seduction mountain. I’m 18 so I realize alot of you guys are older and have been doing this for a significantly longer amount of time.

If you could go back in time and tell your younger self something what would it be?

 

[Egor]

Find the seduction community

 

[Lobo]

I'm only a year older than you and probably roughly at a similar level... the one thing I would tell myself is to start a journal here and ask the more experienced seducers around for advice/feedback. This immesurably shortens your learning curve.

I've read a lot of girls chase since i was 17 but even then, there is material outside this site that help a lot like gunwitch's SMMA... in matter of fact, I would recommend SMMA as the first thing to learn from.

Besides that, being involved in the community will strenghten your understanding of game as you learn from others and eventually teach others(which further reinforces your understanding).

 

[Rakehell]

I've read a lot of girls chase since i was 17 but even then, there is material outside this site that help a lot like gunwitch's SMMA... in matter of fact, I would recommend SMMA as the first thing to learn from.

I’ve read a couple articles by gunwitch. He’s a well written guy don’t get me wrong, but based on what i’ve seen from him—his style doesn’t really resonate with me.

It all makes sense and i’m sure it’s effective in it’s own right but its way too formula-esque for me.

I narrowed down the articles I read by author in an attempt to not mix and match between too many. Excluding when authors link other authors material with bolded words, as I assume they corroborate with each other.

If I were to purchase someones stuff it’d probably be between Chase Amante or Hector Castillo. Personality wise they seem to share traits with me, as well as motivations.

 

[Lobo]

I’ve read a couple articles by gunwitch. He’s a well written guy don’t get me wrong, but based on what i’ve seen from him—his style doesn’t really resonate with me.

It all makes sense and i’m sure it’s effective in it’s own right but its way too formula-esque for me.

I narrowed down the articles I read by author in an attempt to not mix and match between too many. Excluding when authors link other authors material with bolded words, as I assume they corroborate with each other.

If I were to purchase someones stuff it’d probably be between Chase Amante or Hector Castillo. Personality wise they seem to share traits with me, as well as motivations.

I agree on the formulaic parts of it, but I think the biggest benefit is having an understanding of the 3 keys that are present in any seduction, and how perfect balance of the three skyrocket your odds of seducing women and even understanding where exactly your interaction was lacking.

This article discusses the framework well.

When Dates or Pickups Go Awry, the 3-Legged Chair Is Your Guide to Why

Just because you hit it off with a girl doesn’t mean it’ll stay good. When your interactions fall apart, use the 3-legged chair to figure out why. You’re talking to a girl, it’s going great, she seems into you, all the signs are pointing to you two getting more intimate later on. She’s...

www.girlschase.com

 

[Rakehell]

I agree on the formulaic parts of it, but I think the biggest benefit is having an understanding of the 3 keys that are present in any seduction, and how perfect balance of the three skyrocket your odds of seducing women and even understanding where exactly your interaction was lacking.

This article discusses the framework well.

When Dates or Pickups Go Awry, the 3-Legged Chair Is Your Guide to Why

Just because you hit it off with a girl doesn’t mean it’ll stay good. When your interactions fall apart, use the 3-legged chair to figure out why. You’re talking to a girl, it’s going great, she seems into you, all the signs are pointing to you two getting more intimate later on. She’s...

www.girlschase.com

I see where you’re coming from, and the frame work all seems valid. Has it impacted your interactions positively?

I also noticed the article you linked is written by Daniel Adebayo instead of gunwitch, does it overlap with gunwitch’s 3 keys too?

 

[Lobo]

Daniel Adebayo (Bacchus) goes over the topics discussed in gunwitch's SMMA, and yeah, its given me a new fundamental understanding of game.

Often times when my interactions goes awry is when I emotionally stimulate and sexually arouse while also not keeping the social frame tight, which causes FSC and othet forms of resistance to arise from the girl as she tries to understand what she's feeling from me.

Keeping the three keys balanced is something present in almost all interactions. The only exception I can think of is when social frame is not needed because the girl is too horny or you're her exact type.

 

[Rakehell]

Daniel Adebayo (Bacchus) goes over the topics discussed in gunwitch's SMMA, and yeah, its given me a new fundamental understanding of game.

Often times when my interactions goes awry is when I emotionally stimulate and sexually arouse while also not keeping the social frame tight, which causes FSC and othet forms of resistance to arise from the girl as she tries to understand what she's feeling from me.

Keeping the three keys balanced is something present in almost all interactions. The only exception I can think of is when social frame is not needed because the girl is too horny or you're her exact type.

I just finished reading the article, it seems viable.

I’m assuming you use gunwitch’s process. How do you think buying a program has affected your learning curve compared to when you started out?

I’ve been reading material for some years but didn’t start really focusing and grinding until the beginning of this year. It’s pretty much my passion right now and i’m training it like i’m conditioning for a competition.

 

[ulrich]

I would tell myself: “Don’t get desperate, it takes a lot of time but you have way more time than you think”.

 

[Rakehell]

I would tell myself: “Don’t get desperate, it takes a lot of time but you have way more time than you think”.

Ahaaa Idk if i’m desperate for results, maybe desperate for more action.

This past quarantine in the US bored me to all death I’m in such an action taking headspace now.

At what point did your desperation fade away?

 

[ulrich]

At what point did your desperation fade away?

Well, it’s kinda personal but in my case at 34 years.
I started rather late… first kiss at 21, had sex for the first time at 24… I always felt like I was late and running against time.

By 34 (an age I used to consider too old for dating) I was consistently dating hot girls in the 22-26 years range and became very good at it.
You can take your time.

It’s hard to believe at first but if you take care of yourself your thirties is an amazing age to sleep around, even better than your twenties.

 

[Starboy]

I think looking back deep in the past generally is pointless because you can't change whatever happened and even moreso if you dealt with a lot of stuff that left you feeling bitter.

With that being said if I could step in a time machine and give my younger self advice on the top of my head it would be:

1. Women don't give a shit about your insecurities. There are women who will like you for who you are if you think positively,believe ,make a move and play to win.
2.Don't jerk off chronicly,focus on actually getting sex with girls,share this website
3. Women care and wanna hear about what you have to say,your voice matters,and expressing yourself freely is important.
4. Don't identify yourself with people's perception/belief of you. Your image/reputation is a tool and only matters if you want it to matter. Who cares if people think you're weird or different do what u want
5. Don't make yourself small to make others feel comfortable. Better to come off agressive and domineering than to be passive and soft.

 

[Rakehell]

Well, it’s kinda personal but in my case at 34 years.
I started rather late… first kiss at 21, had sex for the first time at 24… I always felt like I was late and running against time.

By 34 (an age I used to consider too old for dating) I was consistently dating hot girls in the 22-26 years range and became very good at it.
You can take your time.

It’s hard to believe at first but if you take care of yourself your thirties is an amazing age to sleep around, even better than your twenties.

Wow!

Hell yeah, it’s inspiring to hear how you overcame your doubts.

I bet it’s an amazing feeling being able to look back and say you accomplished what you set out to do all those years ago.

 

[Rakehell]

4. Don't identify yourself with people's perception/belief of you. Your image/reputation is a tool and only matters if you want it to matter. Who cares if people think you're weird or different do what u want

I’m still working on this slowly so it’s funny you put that bit.

How’d you overcome it? I sometimes find myself trying to be perceived in a certain way.

 

[William Wallace]

Well, it’s kinda personal but in my case at 34 years.
I started rather late… first kiss at 21, had sex for the first time at 24… I always felt like I was late and running against time.

By 34 (an age I used to consider too old for dating) I was consistently dating hot girls in the 22-26 years range and became very good at it.
You can take your time.

It’s hard to believe at first but if you take care of yourself your thirties is an amazing age to sleep around, even better than your twenties.

Interesting giving me hope here so you think you could land a 20 year old girl to marry?

 

[ulrich]

Interesting giving me hope here so you think you could land a 20 year old girl to marry?

Mmm… yeah… I think I could if I wanted.

Most girls I tend to meet in the 20-24 range are not really wife material, though. Too immature.
Where I live most girls marry at 26-31 so that could be part of the reason.
But I guess if I found one of the most balanced ones, I could go serious.

In any case, I recently landed a 28 years old girlfriend… she is smart, educated, and has an amazing body… she is definitely wife material so I’m keeping her for the moment.

The main point is I feel like I have plenty of options and it is an amazing feeling.
And I’m not even an “expert” at this.

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

I’d say that I went through your stage at one point myself, I remember being pissed at myself for not being out and about and being an approach machine.

I remember being called a creep at a frat party, “never went to uni still don’t understand how it works” and phoning my coach crying that same night being upset.

You’ll at one point just be going through the motions, then a year or two later the emotions caught up to my motions and then after a year I found balance. I discovered sedfast around 2013 at your age. I’m a lot stronger and better now.

My actual advice to myself is good job. It has not been easy at all, should’ve been easier on yourself.

 

[William Wallace]

Mmm… yeah… I think I could if I wanted.

Most girls I tend to meet in the 20-24 range are not really wife material, though. Too immature.
Where I live most girls marry at 26-31 so that could be part of the reason.
But I guess if I found one of the most balanced ones, I could go serious.

In any case, I recently landed a 28 years old girlfriend… she is smart, educated, and has an amazing body… she is definitely wife material so I’m keeping her for the moment.

The main point is I feel like I have plenty of options and it is an amazing feeling.
And I’m not even an “expert” at this.

yeah the thing is that i want alot of kids so they kinda have to be young

 

[Derek da man]

Well, it’s kinda personal but in my case at 34 years.
I started rather late… first kiss at 21, had sex for the first time at 24… I always felt like I was late and running against time.

It's not as uncommon a people think - I was same age for both.

4. Don't identify yourself with people's perception/belief of you. Your image/reputation is a tool and only matters if you want it to matter. Who cares if people think you're weird or different do what u want

It took me years to realise that girls like guys that are different. As long as you "own it" are passionate about what you like and have confidence to be yourself and are true to yourself it comes through as very attractive and lasts, where as good looks may make it easier initially by girls quickly see through fake and move on.

I’m still working on this slowly so it’s funny you put that bit.

How’d you overcome it?

You're in the right place - on here. It took me years to realise it was a process to attract women and there were common traits that can be repeated, skills that can be developed and improved.


I was bullied at school, including by some of the best looking girls, which resulted in zero self confidence and a heightened sensitivity to the needs of others. This resulted in me taking everything at face value meaning and I ended up being the typical "nice guy" that has no idea about women and does everything possible not to loose them. The change in mindset makes a massive difference. It takes time for it to settle in so may not be a quick fix but it is the key to being successful realising that the confidence to loose 1 girl will increase attraction in many others.

Therefore my advice to a younger me would be not to believe the image that society supports regarding women being sweet, innocent and only have sex with a nice guy who could become a long term partner. For the most part this in an act that you should play along with but in reality girls want sex as much as men and often more kinky and dirty than men. For the most part men are stimulated visually, for women it's about an emotional journey of which you, as a man, can influence and increase their receptiveness to your advances.

 

[Rakehell]

I’d say that I went through your stage at one point myself, I remember being pissed at myself for not being out and about and being an approach machine.

Yeah, then its like you’re fighting against an imaginary clock of some sort. Like a deep seated eagerness to pursue your goals even though you’re only racing yourself.

Now that you put it that way I believe I get like this with alot of things I try to master.