Again, you didn't watch the video. One of the primary topics of the video was "lure her in with femininity then escalate in a masculine, aggressive manner." Masculinity is more than a short hair cut, a beard, and muscles. Masculinity is, at its heart, aggression. If a feminine looking dude pummels some ripped bald guy with a strong jaw line, he's more manly. End of story.
If I fuck that girl you were mackin' on, I'm more manly. End of story.
You got a daughter who's of age? We'll talk who's manly when she's calling me papi.
Whether or not something works is the only debate we're having here. What you think people should be doing or what they shouldn't be doing is irrelevant.
If something works, it works. Everything after that is vanity.
+1 me.
Your insult was "you don't even lift, bro." That's all I had to show up. Nice attempt at condescension follow up, but again, +1 me. Also, no pics from you. At this point, you're keyboard jockeying. You could be a basement bum with bitch tits for all I know. Step up or shut up.
You're the one being moral. You were the one who started the ENTIRE moral argument. This is the mega-nuke of all moral arguments found in you original argument
As I pointed out in the previous point that you seemed to not be able to grasp, any time you tell someone you SHOULD do this in regards to lifestyle, it's a moral argument. Morality is and never has been all about "this is evil" or "this is good." Which is fine. Everyone is moralizing, except you made the mistake of moralizing in an anti-PUA manner. I'm here to tell you that your moral axioms are wrong. As Chase pointed out, humans learn via the experienced teaching the uninitiated.
And this is not to mention, yet again, the entire "PUA picks up girl at the mall" example. The moral implication there that would be obvious to anyone but a complete autist is that it's bad to be a cad.
Pickup, at its heart, is amoral. "If you want this, do this."
Evasion. Fake lay reports are easy to spot. But even more credible, you can verify it by having someone see you do work and vouch for you. I've had clients see me in action as well as most of the GC staff. Also, this entire discussion is about whether I know game and can teach it better than you.
And not only are you about to lose the theoretical argument, you have absolutely no verified authority on the subject.
I don't care if you're an immortal vampire who's been seducing women since the Dark Ages. You're appealing to authority here, but then not backing it up with any verification whatsoever.
On one hand, you're trying to assert authority. You've been doing this shit since fucking 'Nam and all that. Then, on the other hand, you keep trying to attack my authority, and I keep presenting evidence. Pics for lifting. Clients for results. GC writers who can vouch for my game.
So which is it,
respect unverified authority or you need proof?
You can't have both, bubba.
But you've presented nothing here. I'm not going to rustle through your posts for some random anecdote. Thus, you have not shit.
Are you daft? Where did I argue this?
I never said I have learned or asserted anything I teach is revolutionary. That has never been my argument. Straw man. There is nothing new under the sun.
But what i'm damn good at it is teaching this shit. I make mistakes here and there, but I have dozens upon dozens of clients who have direct results because of my teaching. Where are the fruits of your labor?
This is an argument of "This is so easy, OMG just get jacked, get friends, don't chase, get hoes!" (YOU) and "Get your fundamentals down, but you also need to learn game, which is complex as fuck" (ME).
I don't give a fuck if I impress you. The only reason I would ever need to get your submission is if you were in my way and I needed to show bittie boo at the bar how grandpa can't get his dick hard anymore by making him look like a senile old fool. And seeing as you can't seem to stay on topic, the senility part has already been done for me.
What the fuck is this shit? What does ANY of this have to do with the discussion at hand? Take your baby-boomer bullshit somewhere else.
If you wanted to pull the old man card, you should have ignored me completely and dismissed me. That's what a stoic, manly man would have done. But instead, you got in the ring with me and you keep trying to convince me to stop arguing. Doesn't work. At 25 years old I know all your tricks and then some.
Now here comes the knockout. Ready?
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You say seduction is easy and it can be done with as simple a thing as improving your fundamentals. I assert it's more complicated than that. For people looking for the easy road, your method sounds more attractive.
However, does it WORK?
The proof is in the pussy.
Firstly, fundamentals are important. Fundamentals are HUGE. I'm releasing an article and some videos on how fundamentals are the VEHICLE for game.
However, if not properly explained, this is what we call Grand Strategy. It's motivational. It sounds good. But it will not solve the problem of not getting laid. You're not helping anyone in the beginner-intermediate range. If you're as knowledgable as you say you are, you're looking back at all your years of studying and saying, "Agh, that was all for naught! All you gotta do is not chase, get a life, and dress well!"
You're wrong in that you're oversimplifying the massive process you've taken. Yeah, I can pull of insane combos in Street Fighter with ease so long as I'm calm, but it took me HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HOURS TO PERFECT THAT SHIT.
But beyond your reductionist argument, you're wrong about fundamentals.
Fundamentals get attraction and make your game slick.
But, there must still be words spoken and action must still be taken to lead a girl to bed. Masculinity is about aggressive action.
Fundamentals get you in the door, but if you can't talk a girl into coming home with you, it don't mean shit.
Attraction =/= Results.
So let's say you approach a stunner at the club. She's hanging out with the VIP hosts who work there. She's smoking hot You're in shape, dress well, have friends, have a career, have abundance mentality, all that good shit, ya?
Well, so does everyone else around you. Plus, they have social status. Also, their game is sick, because their entire LIFE revolves around their social skills. It's how they eat AND how they fuck.
But you're attractive, so she politely responds. Warm smile. You talk for a minute. You've got abundance mentality, fundamentals, ALL THAT GOOD SHIT. She's into you. Pimpin' right?
One of the VIP hosts comes up and grabs her and pulls her away.
"Well, that's just because he's in her social circle!" you say.
Yeah. That's. The. Point. He applied his social skills (i.e., his game) to a social circle, got some social proof and preselection with her, and now he's leading her out of the club.
So much for all of your inspirational grand strategies. She was attracted, sure,
but your game was weak. You didn't get her hooked enough to overcome a strong social circle lover candidate. In conversation you were nice and attractive, but nothing you said was above average. You were "yourself" as you like to prattle on about.
Well, being yourself doesn't cut it at this league. For the average chick, sure, your advice works, but for hot girls who have droves of guys with their shit together,
you're just another guy.
What sets you apart?
Your game.
And that's what we spend most of our time here teaching at Girls Chase. Game sets you apart. Sure, the fundamentals give your game *FLAVOR*, but you need that game. You need to know when to escalate, how to avoid verbal traps, when to compliment, when to pull, when to ignore something, when to give a serious answer, when to be playful, when to deep dive, when to come up for air with small talk, when to be aloof, when to be attentive, etc.
This is all game.
And none of that was highlighted in your original post. Only maxims and grand strategies with no specificity whatsoever.
If stunners were simple to get, everyone would be doing it.
But that aint' the truth, now is it, Drck?
Nighty night, bubz.
GG. No re.
Hector
