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backstory said:
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Headed out to the gym as usual, not that far from my high rise and did some workouts. See hot blonde in a pink shirt and pony tail looking for stuff and I open her.

Me: I don't think they have yoga studios in this building
Her: I wasn't looking for one
Me: Oh, the nearest Starbucks is right around the corner
Her: (laughs) Dick!
Me: Altair, nice to meet you
Her: Melissa
Me: So what were you looking for?
Her: A place to do sit ups
Me: Well they have that like nearby in that part of the gym, you new here?
Her: Thanks, ya I recently moved from Ohio
Me: Go buckeyes?
Her: Ewww no fuck the buckeyes, go Wolverines
Me: You are one strange Ohioan Melissa
Her: And you are one strange man Altair (laughing)
Me: Well I have to get back to my bench press set, it was nice to meet you
Her: It was nice to meet you too, I am sure I will see you around!

Good job. Sounds like she was having a fun time talking to you. If you had transitioned into a little bit of deep diving it sounds like you could have gotten her number pretty easy. What are your plans for the next time you see her?

No fucking idea.
 

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Altair said:
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Headed out to the gym as usual, not that far from my high rise and did some workouts. See hot blonde in a pink shirt and pony tail looking for stuff and I open her.

Me: I don't think they have yoga studios in this building
Her: I wasn't looking for one
Me: Oh, the nearest Starbucks is right around the corner
Her: (laughs) Dick!
Me: Altair, nice to meet you
Her: Melissa
Me: So what were you looking for?
Her: A place to do sit ups
Me: Well they have that like nearby in that part of the gym, you new here?
Her: Thanks, ya I recently moved from Ohio
Me: Go buckeyes?
Her: Ewww no fuck the buckeyes, go Wolverines
Me: You are one strange Ohioan Melissa
Her: And you are one strange man Altair (laughing)
Me: Well I have to get back to my bench press set, it was nice to meet you
Her: It was nice to meet you too, I am sure I will see you around!

Good job. Sounds like she was having a fun time talking to you. If you had transitioned into a little bit of deep diving it sounds like you could have gotten her number pretty easy. What are your plans for the next time you see her?

No fucking idea.

Plan it out now so you can act quick when/if you see her again
 

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So the entire day I could not get the opportunity to make any approaches, walked out in my area and found that it was tough for me to even found much of an opportunity so I held myself to it, drove out to the bar scene yet again because I had to keep myself honest.

Arrived, parked, and walked in. Looked around, a lot of hot girls at the bar, that was a shocker for me. Found quite a few of the hot girls were with guys, looked across and found a few hot blondes. Then again, it strikes, I had a tough time being a man and approaching any of the girls, initial approach anxiety at a bar.

Finally bumped into tall but kinda chubby brunette, she bumped into me so I semi-approached.

Me: So what's a good drink to get at this bar?
Girl: Well I get the vodka haha
Me: Thanks!

I walk away and then I walk around a bit, bar has an upstairs lounge so I head up that upstairs lounge but a cute blonde behind me bumps into me and apologizes.

Me: Hey are you alright?
Her: Ya haha I am okay!
Me: Cool okay

Go upstairs to look around and then I see a couple of brunettes standing around, approach one.

Me: Hi what's a good drink to get here?
Her: Oh I don't really know!
Me: Well what do you get?
Her: I usually get vodka and shit
Me: Haha okay, it was nice to meet you
Her: Nice to meet you too

I take this approach for a few reasons, to see if she actually asks for my name and that lets me know if she is interested.

Look around, see two cute blondes but don't approach because some short Mexican dude is talking to them, good on him to have some balls. Check again later and they are all by themselves so I go over.

Me: You guys seem to be kinda wasted right now, whats a good drink for me to get?
Blonde 1: Excuse me, I am wasted?
Me: Well I said SEEM
Blonde 2: Wow haha
Me: So where are you guys from?
Blonde 1: Texas
Blonde 2: Virginia
Me: Cool guys, cool

They don't ask me where I am from, so interaction is dead I guess, well at least I tried.

Then I stand over and there are two Asian guys standing near me, both buff and checking girls out at the bar. I see this hot brunette that no one has approached and say fuck it, go over and approach her, she is standing right in front of the bartender.

Me: Hey what is a good drink to get around here?
Her: I don't know, I have just been getting beer haha
Me: Nice
Her: He is making some cool grape and vodka drink though
Me: Looks nice, so where are you from btw?
Her: Oregon
Me: Fun state indeed, Go Ducks?
Her: No go Beavers!
Me: I heard stuff gets wild at that school
Her: It does
Me: What's your name btw?
Her: Evelyn
Me: Nice to meet you
Her: Ya nice to meet you too
Me: So I think I am going to get a drink

Once again, she didn't ask me for my name...

Then I leave.

So a few questions and comments as I will undoubtedly head to a bar again next weekend.

1. Am I supposed to move it forward when I can read that she isn't interested enough to ask me questions?

2. I need to get in the habit of approaching as soon as I enter the bar! Just need to. Any ideas there?
 

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Altair said:
So a few questions and comments as I will undoubtedly head to a bar again next weekend.

1. Am I supposed to move it forward when I can read that she isn't interested enough to ask me questions?

2. I need to get in the habit of approaching as soon as I enter the bar! Just need to. Any ideas there?

1. Yes
2. JUST DO IT. Challenge yourself to open the very first girl you see.
 
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Getting very late in the night, have work tomorrow, but as promised I will update this log as I do intend to do approaches daily like I did today.

So today I went to the Trader Joes again and it seemed pretty dead at first. Walked around a bit and ran into a brunette with yoga pants in the fruit section, looked back and she was looking at me.

Me: Hi how are you?
Her: Uh hi (in a weird "why are you talking to me sort of tone")

That didn't go well. Tried to purchase some fruits but a couple were raw, saw another brunette in my direction so I attempt to chat her up.

Me: Just trying to find a nice apple in the bunch
Her: Oh no you're good!
Me: Oh

Approach could have been stronger.

Decided to say fuck it and just get out of there, I had my approaches in and today was not my day. I buy my shit, get out, and then see that now some hot girls are walking in. On the way in I run into this hot blonde, gorgeous girl, and I open.

Me: Hi how is your day going?
Her: Good thanks for asking! (smiles)
Me: Nice, well hope it stays great
Her: Okay yours too

Well okay, so after two failed approaches I get a good reception from a girl that is my type and I do not where to go from there. Day is over, got my approaches in even when I didn't want to, and now I look forward to a week of greater progress although I have to say, grocery store progress has not been going so well.

Lesson learned:

Go grocery shopping later on in the night than earlier, more likely to run into hotter girls that way because hot girls are lazy.
 

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With the way things are looking, I don't think I will be able to do an approach today.
 

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Push yourself. Express your interest. These girls have no clue why your talking to them. Starting out it could even be something, like wow this makes me scared/ or nervous to say it but wow your cute. Use the inexperience even if it doesn't get you anywhere, just use it to express that interest and eventually you'll move onto more stuff. And Ambiance wasn't being passive agrressive, i read it as him being encouraging, don't be so quick to take things to heart.
 

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Thank you Raqimus but given how things are right now in my life, I think I might not be doing any approaching until the weekend starts or at least for a few days. I don't want to talk about it now but there is so much going in my life that I have way too much on my plate at this point, going to take a quick short break and get that handled before I get back into this.

I want to thank everyone for being supportive towards me on this thread and sincerely hope all of this works out but right now, life has given me an unexpected detour.
 

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So it has been a borderline rough weekend. Went out to a big bar last night to meet up with a couple of friends, opened like maybe a couple of girls at best but it was weak non-direct openers. Ended up getting way too hammered for my own good, I missed out on this shit in college and so I have aspirations towards that kind of a lifestyle now because I didn't get the college experience. Just went around drinking as much as I can, it was some strong shit like Whiskey, Vodka, and all of that.

Around 1 AM or so friend who is sober gets my drunk friend and I (being drunk as fuck) into the car and drops me off at my place. I go home and I vomit like hell for like 10 minutes. Then I finally pass out after all the vomiting, wake up, and I was vomiting most of the day. Took like a 5 hour nap and then went back to vomiting. Had worries that I might have alcohol poisoning and thought about potentially calling an ambulance but didn't. Day went on and finally, I felt better towards the end of it and when night rolled around the hell was over, no more headaches or vomiting.

Then I had to take my usual grocery trip but decided to hop over to a pizza place first because I was hungry, had not eaten anything all day. Finished like an XL pizza, still a bit leftover for dinner lol.

Rolled around to shop for groceries at around like 9, that is when the grocery stores seem to get a lot of hot girls in.

Saw this cute brunette wearing an orange Longhorns hat in one aisle, nice legs and daisy dukes. She was checking out some chips.
Me: Checking out chips, nice (like wtf, horrible opener)
Her: Huh ya
Me: So are you from Texas?
Her: No, a friend from work got me this hat

That was about it, I go further down in the candy section and pretend like I am shopping. Felt like going back and being more direct with her but not worth it. She walked back towards my direction and headed to the check out line.

So that was about the end of my weekend but life lessons learned.

With what I went through with my hangover today, don't think I want to try that out for a while. Still depressed I didn't get to do all that in college due to my circumstances and it isn't as fun when there isn't a massive party going on, have to find my group of friends to party with because the two I went out were just buddies visiting town.

Need to get my act together though and this weekend taught me that.

I do somewhat still want to enjoy the alcohol raged party life at some point but not like this, not at a bar with a couple of friends, maybe for a special event. Still having scars of missing out on the college experience but have to get it together, definitely went overboard with the drinking.

It's a wake up call.

I guess I had to go through and get hammered, get way off track, have the shitty day today, and all of that to finally get myself back on track for life. Things had been going tough at work and I had a lot of other thoughts that kinda took me off track from this but I am back to daily approaches again.
 

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So no approaches today, none, just went out for a walk and saw a cute blonde with a pony tail across the street but did not approach. Need to get my act together, like seriously!
 

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Well, going out tonight, hope GC gives me some last minute advice over on a thread in the main board.
 

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I was tired a lot of today but staying true to myself, decided to go out. Guess that is what happens when you are set on making it happen.

Got into the first bar and to be honest, approach anxiety was kicking in early. Just stood around a bit alone and then I feel an arm grabbing me, two girls grab me and ask me to take a pic of them a few times. After that I have a short convo with them about how they are doing and how their night has been so far. Was not aggressive enough with the approach but it did kickstart my night. Walked away after that though I should have been more proactive there.

but then I saw these two girls standing around, one redhead and one brunette, this happened like an hour in. Brunette looks at me and says "come this way".

Me (to redhead): Hi how are you?
Her: Good
Me: Look before I decide to go any further with tonight, I want to ask, are you single?
Her: No, but she is! (looking at her brunette friend)
Me: Oh well I came to chat with you
Her: Well she is single though

Brunette was not responding, just smiled, I walked away but felt great because at least I went direct for the first time in like forever. Later on in the night I see this cute brunette standing around near the stairs so I approach her.

Me: Hi can I ask you a question real quick?
Her: Ya okay
Me: Before I ask you anything else and I don't want to waste your time here but are you here with your boyfriend?
Her: Yes in fact I am waiting on him, sorry!
Me: Thats cool

Headed out of that bar and headed into another one but they were playing a song I found very annoying. Temporarily stood outside by myself around others trying not to look out of place, definitely looked kinda awkward and out of place. Went in and tried again, walked through the bar a bit, and then I see these two girls. One blonde and one brunette, decide to chat up the blonde.

Me: Hi, I have to ask you guys something, where is (name of bar)?
Blonde: Oh I am new here, like my first time here
Me: Where are you from?
Her: (Names college town)
Me: No way, I went to school there
Her: Nice!
Me: What is your favorite bar there?
Her: I love (name of bar)
Me: Oh that is the frat boy drunk bar
Her: Yes it is oh my god it is
Me: Hey, I am going to waste your time here so before we move forward I want to ask, are you single?
Her: No I have a boyfriend
Brunette: Who are you!!
Me: A nobody (walk away)

Well that was awkward so I go back and I head to this one other bar and I bump into these two brunettes. I open this one brunette.

Me: How do you get anywhere with this crowd in the bar?
Brunette: OH MY GOD I know right!
Me: People are sweaty and don't seem to wear deodorant either haha!
Brunette: Yes it can get so troublesome
Me: I am Altair, nice to meet you!
Her: I am Lisa, nice to meet you too!
Me: So Lisa, before I go any further, I want to ask, do you have a boyfriend?
Her: Yes, actually I do (her friend looking at me and laughing)

That was about it, I headed back home.

No numbers, no makeouts, but I am happy I finally had a chance to go direct.

All help appreciated here in regards to how to approach bar game, might go out again tomorrow.
 

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Whew, great to be back!

So my area has been going through well beyond terrible weather, some of which has caused internet outage as well as some minor flooding in some parts so I could not post daily as I would have liked to. To pick up where I left off, I will talk about last night out at the bar where I approached like 6 different girls and do my best to recall it, hopefully you guys get back to me.

First thing I do when I get to the bar, awkwardly stand around :)

Then after like 30 minutes pass I see a brunette go by me and I ask her how tall she is. She replies saying 6'2 and tbh, I wonder if it is rude to ask women how tall they are similar to how it is rude to ask them their weight?

After her walk around the bar for like an hour or so until I approach these two Colombian girls.
Me: Hey guys hows your night going so far? (my go to opener)
Her: Oh good good
Me: So are you guys from around here?
Her: No, from Colombia (friend is on the phone, girl is chatting with me)

Not sure where the conversation left off from there but they didn't seem to be too interested and this was in an area where people were dancing. I also noticed that after being closer to them, their faces were uglier closer up.

Moving on I saw a blonde standing by herself.

Me: Hi how is your night going so far?
Her: (smiles) good, how about yours?
Me: It's great, hi whats your.. (guy comes up out of nowhere talking to her)
Me: Oh my bad (start to walk away)
Her: No, you're okay you're okay (grabs my bicep and squeezes it)
Me: (lost and confused)

In hindsight, I probably got what they say amogged to an extent because I thought dude was her boyfriend, should have clarified right then and there with her.

Saw this one group of girls at a bar and once again, I go up to one of them with my line

Me: Hi so how have you been doing so far?
Girl: Good good
Me: Great, I am halfway to wasted
Her: Not a good thing to aspire to sir
Me: True true, so where are you from?
(Forgot the convo from there)

Moving on, there was this one tall cute blonde with an athletic body I was eyeing all night long. Finally get the guts to go up to her and approach when I see her, she is with a friend.

Me: Hi how is your night going so far?
Her: Its its good its good yours?
Me: Good, hi this might seem a bit off but how tall are you? You make me feel short?
Her: Haha I am 6'2
Me: Oh nice, you're not American are you?
Her: Well ya I am
Me: I mean I would have thought you were like Swedish or something like that
Her: Well I am Italian and from Massachusetts
Me: Oh nice, well I am like halfway wasted so I'll stop bothering you guys haha (walk away like a loser)

Then I sat down with like 3 or so guys, had a short convo with them, tried to make small talk (I mean they came sat down near me at a table), and they told me to go hit on some bitches (their way of telling me to leave them alone I guess).

Whatever. So I approached this one cute blonde in a red dress and told her about a couple of cool guy friends I want her to meet, she said "why would I wanna meet them?", and then her fat friend ruined the approach.

Well that was my night, did do a lot of approaches but could have moved forward a lot better.

So tonight I will be going out again, last minute advice appreciated.
 

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So this is from the past weekend, Saturday. Really need to clean up my act and get it together, been so out of it in the past couple of weeks!

I went out to the bar and ordered a drink to start the night, immediately at the bar this brunette starts dancing like next to me and I think she is wasted. Do not really do anything with her because I am thrown off at a girl showing that much interest in me. After ordering drink I walk away and awkwardly stand around. This is a big issue for me, I come off as the one guy who is standing around alone at a bar because I don't really have friends to go out with.

So I ended up walking around a bit and was too much of a pussy to approach any girl at first. Did talk to a nice sweet couple who were at the bar and they were kind people.

Headed near the bar again, attempted to talk to two blondes by asking them how they are liking the night so far, they said "ya its great". One of the blondes had glasses, was a total fucking bitch.

Walked around a bit more but some Italian looking brunette caught me and said "please, can you show me the way out of the bar?", she was on the phone. I told her to grab my arm and lead her to the exit, did not really try to go any farther as she wanted to leave it seemed like. Looks like I missed a chance there.

Wanted to do more approaches but could not.

Crossed paths with tall brunette and stopped her by asking her how her night is going, she was receptive and I also touched her too. Talked to her for like 5 straight minutes but then she said lets go to the other room of the bar that is more quiet but I said no lets just get to a more quiet part of the bar as opposed to being so close to the music. She said no thanks and I fucking blew my shot, could have number closed her.

Some of this shit should go in the FU report, feel like I missed so many opportunities but at least they were coming at me.
 

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Skipped going to bars for the weekend and hung out with a couple of college friends at their place, it was a good relaxer and got me socializing which I love. Might go out to do some minor grocery shopping at Trader Joes and will try to approach, have been way off my game lately lol.
 

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Remember when I said that I would hold you to one approach a day?
 

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Remember when I said that I would hold you to one approach a day?

Throw in a storm that leads to people evacuating their homes, flash floods, no internet for days, and a hectic schedule on top of that; well you can see where my issues are coming in lol.
 

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Altair said:
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Remember when I said that I would hold you to one approach a day?

Throw in a storm that leads to people evacuating their homes, flash floods, no internet for days, and a hectic schedule on top of that; well you can see where my issues are coming in lol.

A storm has been happening since May 29th? You've had such a hectic schedule since May 29th that you can't even say hi to one ONE GIRL a day? do you wanna fuck mad pussy or not bro?
 

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backstory said:
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backstory said:
Remember when I said that I would hold you to one approach a day?

Throw in a storm that leads to people evacuating their homes, flash floods, no internet for days, and a hectic schedule on top of that; well you can see where my issues are coming in lol.

A storm has been happening since May 29th? You've had such a hectic schedule since May 29th that you can't even say hi to one ONE GIRL a day? do you wanna fuck mad pussy or not bro?

You have read posts since then of my nights out at the bar right?
 

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Altair said:
backstory said:
Altair said:
backstory said:
Remember when I said that I would hold you to one approach a day?

Throw in a storm that leads to people evacuating their homes, flash floods, no internet for days, and a hectic schedule on top of that; well you can see where my issues are coming in lol.

A storm has been happening since May 29th? You've had such a hectic schedule since May 29th that you can't even say hi to one ONE GIRL a day? do you wanna fuck mad pussy or not bro?

You have read posts since then of my nights out at the bar right?

Yes...but here is what you said earlier.

Altair said:
1. I cannot afford to have OFF weeks, it is just not an option in my situation. An off week and I am fucking done. From this point on, 1 approach a day with Altair, NO EXCUSES!

I'm holding you accountable. If you're not serious about this shit, then let me know and I'll gladly hop off your back.
 
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