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Ree

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Me and my ex have a rabbit farm business(i know,weird,but anyway),so I was making a routine call to ask her about business and she seemed to be very low,after inquiring what was going on ,she told me that her boyfriend(or fwb or whatever) who lives next door to her,beat the shit out of her and stole her stuff.
My brain froze,I could not for the life of me decide on how to act,if you have been a gamer for as long as me,you know better than to jump onto your trusty steed to respond to every damsel in distress,and man I know better than anyone just how unstable this girl is.
I was torn,If i think about all the stupid decisions she makes I think she deserves to have her mouth full of mud,but if I think of all the help she has given me on my rabbit farm ,I cannot in good conscience not attempt to pull her out of the quicksand.
I asked for opinions in an African seduction group,I called up some lawyers and social workers,and after thinking of how much help my ex had given me with my rabbit project,I decided to help,I had no idea just how bad I was setting myself up.
So I drove to my exs place,picked her up,took her to the police station,Now for those of you in the first world you have no idea how a Kenyan police station operates.
The cops act like they are doing you a favor,to file a simple assault charge you need a bunch of forms and all the forms are gotten in different places,
to just summarize the process,we got an ob report from the cops,a p3 form from the cyber,a medical form from a level 4 hospital(this hospital is on another county),the report had to be taken to the cops for a signature and then back to the hospital for a stamp,then back to the cops for a stamp,.......if this whole process seems long and confusing and inefficient,it might be because it is long and confusing an inefficient.
this whole process took us two days.
I should remind you that this back and forth process is not just long and tedious,all these government agencies are hopelessly corrupt,and by the time we were ready to go arrest the dude,we had spent maybe 70 dollars in bribes and fuel.
still this was not as big a frustration as what was about to come.
All this time we had been dealing with cops and bureaucracy,my ex had been fuming,I have experience with dealing with cops in Kenya,so I had been coaching her on what to say.
basically the demands were simple.
She should concentrate on the burglary charge as opposed to the assault charge,mainly because the burglary seemed open and shut.
there was cctv footage of the dude taking her stuff,and I felt if we just manage to get all her stuff back,that would be a win.
up until then the dude had adamantly refused to give back any of her stuff,the worth of her things was 600 dollars,most of this was alcohol that was stock for a bar they had been planning on opening.
I had also told her not to mention that they were lovers,The story she should try to sell was that this whole thing was a business deal gone wrong,and she just wanted her stock back and the dude was nothing more than a neighbor.
I should mention that while in America gender violence is detestable,In Kenya its really normalized, people dont think of it as a crime,politicians and even celebrities beat (and even kill) their wives all the time ,infact if you go to the station to report that sort of gender based violence you might be given a social worker rather than a real cop,this is why I was really coaching her to present herself as a victim of a burglary and not as a vcitim of assault.
The cop car went to collect the dude while we waited in the station.i had wasted two whole days but at last t would be worth it.the dude entered into the station,saw my ex and smiled,I looked at my ex,and what i saw made my heart fell,my worst fears were confirmed.it seemed like all my work would be for naught after all .
My ex was smiling,I had presented a narrative to the police that these two were bitter enemies,and only police intervention could make us reach any sort of conclusion,but here was the dude smiling broadly,and my ex smiling broadly,the dude walked over and hugged her,and my ex hugs her back,all this was not lost on the police,they immediately asked,have you guys ever fucked?
they said yes while blushing like school girls,the male cop kicked me out,the female cop followed me out.
Now to an American audience you guys would probably be baffled,but the explanation is simple,no kenyan cop likes the paperwork that would be needed to take a case to court,because they are paid per month,and the salary is not dependent on the amount of work they do,they like doing the least amount of work,if a case doesnt seem serious,they tell you guys to "talk it out",they then extort a bribe from you as a mediation fee,and they call it a day.
I hope no one reading this ever has to find themselves having to deal with the kenyan police,but if you do,your whole demeanor should communicate that you are so furious with your accuser ,that any sort of back alley mediation would be impossible.
these guys however did not seem to have any irreconcilable difference,their whole body language seemed to speak of lovers enjoying a peaceful walk in a park,sure there was some talk of a burglary and an assault earlier,but which lovers dont occasionally have a lovers spat.
I hope you can picture how foolish I look,im standing over fidgeting with my phone looking like a third wheel,these two supposed to be adversaries talking amicably with the dude stealing side hugs every now and then,both of them laughing,chuckling,hands intertwining ,untwining and intertwining again,remove the police station from the background are replace it with a scenic park and you could use their picture on your wedding card.
I took a picture and a couple of videos just to remind my future self of the day I turned into a jackass like pinochio.
I thought about the upwork jobs I had lost to be here,i thought about the tinder dates i had cancelled to be here,
with a herculean effort of will I tried to steer this boat away from shits creek,I approached the female cop and asked her,so when is the court date?she looked at me sadly.she gave me a shoulder rub and gave me a speech.
"you seem like a nice man, dont waste your time with this woman,there is no easy way to say this but these two are lovers,I would suggest you just go home" she gave me the look I give a kitten that is entangled in a ball of yarn,like "poor thing",She had assumed I was a whte knight gaming this chic,and she no doubt thought that she was breaking my heart by exposing that these two had an affair.
I didnt lose sight of the ball though,I insisted,when is the court date?she told me that the two lovebirds had decided to "talk things out",
because I was the only one with a car,I said that the cops should provide one officer for us to take the stolen things back from dudes place to her place.
but I had bled a lot of value,when I was talking there was a vibe of "who the hell is this guy?","ummm,im sorry who did you say you are again?""omg,u still here?"
as far as the cops were concerned this whole issue was resolved and the could go back to doing nothing.
they took their mediation fee (15 dollars)
My ex and the dude entered into my car ,(so that we could take her things from his house to hers),immediately they alighted the dude said that he is not giving back anything,he waved at me with a shit eating grin,i said bye to my ex and rove home,
poorer in money,poorer in time,but a lot richer in experience
 
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I could not for the life of me decide on how to act,if you have been a gamer for as long as me,you know better than to jump onto your trusty steed to respond to every damsel in distress.
My ex was smiling,I had presented a narrative to the police that these two were bitter enemies,and only police intervention could make us reach any sort of conclusion,but here was the dude smiling broadly,and my ex smiling broadly,the dude walked over and hugged her,and my ex hugs her back,all this was not lost on the police,they immediately asked,have you guys ever fucked?

If I remember correctly, I vaguley remember someone posting or youtube from gc that if a woman has ex that are abusive, or at least, more than 1 abusive ex in some way, then you should not date her?

I know in this case you and her were running a business and are not together right now, just yeah that point you make about wanting to save women from bad partners, I wanted to bring it up to what gc stance on it is.
 
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If I remember correctly, I vaguley remember someone posting or youtube from gc that if a woman has ex that are abusive, or at least, more than 1 abusive ex in some way, then you should not date her?
facts,infact all her past partners were abusive(except me),the reason we broke up was actually because I realised she was way too emotionaly unstable,and a hell of a party girl,but i agree 100 percent,abusive past parners,take a wide berth
 

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My ex and the dude entered into my car ,
Bro why? You wasted time and money for your ex to go all hugs and kisses with her guy, you should've left on the spot and never spoken to her again. Not offer to drive them around town. If I was you I'd stop talking to her as much as possible, I understand you've got a rabbit farm/business together but keep it to a minimum. Just don't appear upset in your texts/calls, be very neutral and short, don't engage into long conversations like "how are you, how was your day, tell me about blablabla". Make yourself appear busy, tell her you'll call her back later and NEVER do it, unless it's business related and you must.
 
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Bro why? You wasted time and money for your ex to go all hugs and kisses with her guy, you should've left on the spot and never spoken to her again. Not offer to drive them around town. If I was you I'd stop talking to her as much as possible, I understand you've got a rabbit farm/business together but keep it to a minimum. Just don't appear upset in your texts/calls, be very neutral and short, don't engage into long conversations like "how are you, how was your day, tell me about blablabla". Make yourself appear busy, tell her you'll call her back later and NEVER do it, unless it's business related and you must.
true,im out here kicking myself
 

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I don't get this either. Why the fuck do you allow them to get in your car especially after the guy has taunted you with a "shit eating grin". Come on man!

He should have been left standing there like a clown.
 

Ree

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I don't get this either. Why the fuck do you allow them to get in your car especially after the guy has taunted you with a "shit eating grin". Come on man!

He should have been left standing there like a clown.
the deal is he was supposed to go to his place with us and give us back the things he stole,thats why i couldnt leave him
 

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Ah I see now.. He taunted you after you brought him home. Still Ree, you had a relationship with that chick... even a partner ship so you probably have to know her pretty well. Things like this seldomly happen out of the blue. honest question: didn't you have a gut feeling beforehand? I am honestly curious.

And also be honest: was there no white knighting...? I am going to be really skeptic here. Because we need to confront our turths and rationalizations in order to progress.
 

Ree

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Ah I see now.. He taunted you after you brought him home. Still Ree, you had a relationship with that chick... even a partner ship so you probably have to know her pretty well. Things like this seldomly happen out of the blue. honest question: didn't you have a gut feeling beforehand? I am honestly curious.

And also be honest: was there no white knighting...? I am going to be really skeptic here. Because we need to confront our turths and rationalizations in order to progress.


Man I am also trying to be honest with myself,I did not act impulsively,I really asked a bunch of people opinions before deciding to go to help her,i think there was a white knight instinct working,but i didnt wan to fuck her,infact she wanted to come over to my place but i refused,that being said,i really think i made a lot of bad decisions
 

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I dont know where to add this,but when this girl was describing being beaten and strangled ,there were times that she would describe this in a very admiring tone,she kept telling me how strong and "gangsta" the dude was,also keep in mind that this girl is a university educated girl and she ususlly holds strong feminist views in debates.
also last i heard they were back together
 

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I dont know where to add this,but when this girl was describing being beaten and strangled ,there were times that she would describe this in a very admiring tone,she kept telling me how strong and "gangsta" the dude was

Huge red flag. Instead of asking others you should have asked us. Most people give shitty white knight advice. I am pretty your gut feelings warned you about the shadyness
 

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Huge red flag. Instead of asking others you should have asked us. Most people give shitty white knight advice. I am pretty your gut feelings warned you about the shadyness
man,been ive given so many locked posts and warnings that i really didnt want to rock the gc boat,I get the american environment is very sensitive to this kind of stuff..........................................................anyway ,im torn on how one should act in these situations,just because a girl is as dumb as rocks doesnt means she deserves being beaten,but also I cant go around saving people who took themselves to the fire,
 
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Your locked posts were totally different bro haha. The issue you are having now is game related, I highly doubt this would be closed.

You can't save those who do not want to be saved. If she is short sighted enough to go back to that guy and short sighted enough to use you, because that is what she is doing, you have to chose for yourself. It has nothing to do with deserving to be beaten, the phrase you are using is symptom that at your core you have white knight mentality. You are not responsible for her life or choices.

Also just look at what she has already cost you: Time,energy and loss of face. Chose for yourself.
 
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Ree

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Your locked posts were totally different bro haha. The issue you are having now is game related, I highly doubt this would be closed.

You can't save those who do not want to be saved. If she is short sighted enough to go back to that guy and short sighted enough to use you, because that is what she is doing, you have to chose for yourself. It has nothing to do with deserving to be beaten, the phrase you are using is symptom that at your core you have white knight mentality. You are not responsible for her life or choices.

Also just look at what she has already cost you: Time,energy and loss of face. Chose for yourself.
good points,I think that at my core im a nice person,infact its game that taught me to be an asshole,but every now and them my real colours show beneath the layer of paint
 

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It has to do with being assertive and protecting your boundaries. Nice guy/asshole is a warped example here. Hell, I am a pretty nice and friendly guys as well. But I do try to be skeptic of others especially when they become shady or try to manipulate me.
 
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