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An ode to Tyler D and RSD, masters of the game

sumwunimetonce

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When I first got into this stuff it was around the time RSD were releasing the blueprint, I remember TD (Tyler Durden) having the best material out there at the time, I have just gone back and re-read a big collection of his stuff and its amazing. Here is a collection of the best posts, if you have never read it I implore you to do so as some of it is absolute gold.

http://hotseatathome.com/members/wp-con ... ection.pdf

Here are some major and minor points that stood our reading this stuff.

Being positive and offering value - too often we talk about technique but I think these concepts are so fundamental, personally I often find that too much work and lack of certain things in my life (new people/experiences) often means that negativity creeps into my thinking and then starts to affect all of my interactions. Other guys in this community may NEVER have really been positive people that offered value in the first place. Having positivity laid out clearly is a real eye opener, it can make you say "Fuck, I have been so negative recently ...". Being consciously aware of positive and negative behaviour helps you to avoid the negative and seek the positive.

Flipping from being passive to being active - When you are passive you expect others to invite you to parties, others to find out where the good venues are in town, opportunities to meet women to fall into your lap, new friendships to be formed from chance encounters ... I could go on, but you can easily be way more active in all of the above and your life will improve hugely.

Going out a lot is important - things that nearly always go together in my life are not going out / meeting new people AND not getting women. When I get into game it's because I desire both in my life, if I could just get women of course I would take it but I want both. If I was going out, being positive, giving value and meeting new people I almost certainly would not be having trouble getting women. BUT if I had a steady supply of women and nothing else, I think I may still want go out, meet new people and expand my social circle.

These 3 things are HUGE for a newbie and especially someone who gets into this stuff and has really sucked with women their whole life and has low self esteem and very little experience with women. These 3 things offer a really clear blueprint (along with general life improvements like getting in shape and dressing well) of how you can improve yourself, there is 0 PUA stuff in the above 3 points but if executed really well most people would still have a much happier life and do better with women.

I know TD and RSD have gone downhill but I think they should have taken the above 3 points and used that to form the nucleus of a more mature self help business that is infinitely more media friendly than RDS original incarnation.

It's ALL about her emotional state - We talk more about displaying sexual aggressiveness here but TD's perspective on this is really interesting

Buying Temperature and phase shifting: The concepts of 'buying temperature' and 'phase shifting' and how it all relates to emotional state, they are probably things naturals intuitively understand very well but things most of us would never really be aware of unless they were explained to us and are VERY important in seduction.

The little sister mentality - TD may overuse this verbally as a pickup tool but it may be the correct mentality to have towards women, when we are bombarded with media telling us how to treat women, its good to be remained how many women (at least some of the time) want to be treated. I have many female friends at the moment and I am constantly amazed at how bad they are at making decisions, I would say that you can alternate between treating women like a little sister and behaving like a father (at certain times) and knowing when those times are is huge in seduction.

How unconsciously incompetent you are - By reading his posts you can see how much you learn about social dynamics and attraction by just going out often, talking to everyone and actually opening lots of sets with guys in them. It's interesting how much you realise you do not know or pick up in everyday interactions. The stuff he says about female behaviour and how women lie subconsciously, justify things to themselves and react emotionally is stuff that you would probably never find out as a normal man and may not really want to find out. What stands out to me though is that there are many interesting observations not often vocalised anywhere else, reading about them gives you at least conscious incompetence and gives you real curiosity to learn more.

A step too far ? - This one is subjective but for me he runs pick ups on girls deploying techniques that are slightly unnatural. Some of these techniques are using the 'obstacle' in a set to cockblock other guys gaming the 'target' (cringe terminology) or pretending to 'short circuit' so that the girl tries to reengage him.

The 25 point checklist - (of things not to do) is quite counterintuitive and very insightful stuff

Overall the material in that link has some amazing stuff, for me TD explains many concepts of game better than anyone and as he was so involved in the community and posted so prolifically there is a huge body of material to leann from. He is clearly a very smart guy that produced some great stuff and I think its a little sad his company has not really grown up and transitioned into to something more mature. It's also a shame that there are no new players with the same energy producing quality new material in 2019 ... until they come along we will have to rely on the old stuff !!
 

DarkKnight

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To be honest, I can't say I agree. RSD nation had this weird cult like things going on at times and horrible advice which seemed more damaging than anything else. Also way too much vague terms and inner game bullshit. Compare that to the technical advice which Chase gives (or Rolstad, guy is on fire lately) and the in depth analysises he makes. There is a world of difference. Seriously after I found Girlschase everything else seemed watered down advice in comparison.
 
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sumwunimetonce

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Not RSD Nation, the articles in that link are pre 2010, probably 2006-2008 mostly when RSD was a new company.
 

Mr.Rob

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I def got a lot out of RSD. I wouldn't have it as my primary seduction source but its not a bad compliment as a learning source. I modeled a lot of my nightgame off of RSD Tyler and RSD Derek in 2015 and got pretty good results for myself.

That said its not for everyone and GirlsChase is much more thorough in mastering the details of convo/fundamentals.

GC can get a bit too detailed at times to where your stuck in your head when you're out meeting girls whereas RSD is much more broad scope.

As far as the cult thing goes, its a bit "culty" but there's a ton of normal cool high level guys that think for themselves as well. I've met some really good friends through RSD (as well as some whack jobs) but overall I've had good experiences attending live events and I've had good convos with some of the main instructors as well (RSD Madison is a super cool guy).

So its a bit culty at times but its far from being an actual cult. Tyler could arguably do a better job of managing the "cult" vibe but I'm sure he makes more money with it so more power to him.
 
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