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Been reading the site for a while now, love the work you guys put in. This is my first time on the forums because I'm looking for some input about a girl I've known for a while. In fact, she is the reason I began to improve myself in how I do with women, and the reason I found this website. Needless to say, the site changed my life. I have a LONG story, and any advice or comments I can get would be very much appreciated. I do know however that I've messed up with this girl by not moving fast enough on multiple occasions and putting myself in the boyfriend category and probably a lot of other things. But I would still welcome any thoughts you guys have. Thanks in advance!
So, back in junior high, when I was among the most clueless guys with women, there was this cute girl in class who flirted with me and I developed a huge crush, one that still continues to this day, despite the fact that it's been years and despite that I've been with other women. I don't know why, it's just my feelings for her will not extinguish, and I have tried to get over her. Back then and throughout high school I tried anything and everything to get with her, but I was friend zoned of course. After a while we stopped hanging out but we still talked once in a while. Then I moved to college 5 hours away and I almost forgot all about her. Unfortunately, one winter break while I was back in town, she texted me and I went to her house. We made out, almost got undressed, but she stopped and stood up, put her shirt back on, and said let's go to that party I told her about. Not knowing better, I said ok. At the party, things were a little less intense between us, but when we were alone in the room she would take a swig of rum and jump on my lap, kiss me, ask me how the rum tasted, then act normal when people came back. Nothing happened that night, I took her home, then we didn't talk for four days.
I finally couldn't take it anymore and asked her what that was about. What did I mean to her? She said I wouldn't like the answer, so I lost it a bit emotionally. I told her that being with her made me happy and holding her was the best feeling in the world, and some other stupid things. Unfortunately, I was bitter and said something along the lines that she'll never know what it's like. The next day I apologized for the rude things I said and said that I was just upset, and I didn't mean any of it, and I'm better now. She didn't reply to any of the texts, and before I left back to school I invited her out one more time but she adroitly declined. So a few sleepless nights, some alcohol, and some herb later I come across Girls Chase, and I read. A lot. Back in school, I had many girls at my fingertips. I did a lot with them but I didn't sleep with any of them, but I liked knowing and having the power that I could.
A few weeks before Spring term ends, she messages me for the first time in months. She says, that she's really sorry but she lied to me back during winter break, and that in fact she does have feelings for me and wants to be more than friends. She didn't want to lose me because I'm going so far away for college and she didn't know what else to do because long distance relationships don't work. I said that's cool, she shouldn't have lied, but I'm glad she did because it helped me move on. I met other girls since, and we can still be friends. She wasn't happy with that response and implied that she doesn't want to be friends. So I asked her what she wants between us, and she says she doesn't know because she has a boyfriend at the moment. I told her we can hang out sometime for old time's sake when I'm back in town, and she said she'd like to. A few weeks after I got back, I messaged her to go hang out, but she was busy so I stopped talking to her. I didn't want to seem needy and clingy, but I still wanted to hang out with her, so I had my best friend set up a kick back and had him invite her (they are also good friends so I didn't think it would seem odd), so that when we met again it would seem like chance. That night we ended up cuddling and making out and her telling me that she wants to be with me but doesn't want to cheat on her boyfriend. Nothing happens, we talk and hang out a few more times after, one night she has me sleep over at her place because she says I was too tired and drunk to drive home after a party, and each time she told me that she has strong feelings for me, and each time same story with the boyfriend.
Fast forward a couple few weeks and my best friend, her, and I are chilling at my place. We play truth or dare and things got pretty sexy between me and her. She says her boyfriend is her first partner, is pretty boring in bed, wishes he was more rough, and has been ignoring her lately among other things. As we are leaving, she forgets her necklace on my dresser (my friend later told me he suspects she forgot it on purpose so we can be alone). When we are back in my room I decide to stop being such a little bitch. I pull her close and whisper in the sexiest voice I could conjure"If you didn't have a boyfriend, I'd show you rough". And slowly walked away. She stood in the doorway, surprise on her face, and said "Aren't you going to show me a demo?" I came back, closed the door and pushed her against it. I grab her hair, pull back a little, kiss her neck, she moans, I throw her on my bed, her legs wrapped around me, kissing and moaning. I pull away and she pulls me back in to keep making out. I deeply regret that circumstances didn't permit me taking her then and there. So I take my friend home and drop her off. She is very affectionate in the car, tells me that sex with me would be very interesting, and that it's too bad I go to school so far away.
Two days later I find out she is single. She doesn't tell me for a few days. In fact I texted her and asked her why she's binging on ice cream because she had hella sad statuses on facebook and an empty ice cream bucket picture. She says her boyfriend dumped her, and I invite her over for some lunch. She declines but texts me later that night that she wants to go out to eat. So we go, and I tried kissing her twice but she didn't kiss back. She's very sad, we have dinner, I take her home, and I think about it the rest of the night. I talk to my best friend about it, and he says that she broke up with her ex to be with me because we planned a camping trip and she wants to sleep with me during. So, three days later we go camping for three nights. No sex. She was sad during the whole trip, and we barely talked. On the first day however she asked me if she can use my as a rebound, and I said we will see. That night I did get her to moan so loud the first night by sucking/playing with her breasts that our friends heard us in the other tent across the campsite. She would not let me take off her pants though. The second night, we smoke and she takes some... substances... and a couple hours later begins to have a panic attack. My best friend, his lady friend, and I talk her out of it around the campfire. She begins to explain that she's sad because she ruined her relationship because of me. She told her ex that she has a crush on another guy and he dumped her, saying he doesn't have feelings for her anymore. She said she felt tossed aside and abandoned by her boyfriend, who she says is a great guy and she fell hard for him. The lady friend says that who you like can't be helped, and that she has me right here. I say that if she can't be honest with her ex, and if he gets so extremely jealous and insecure, it wasn't going to work out anyway. Friend and lady friend go by the river for a while after that. She tells me more about her life, and how her childhood was rough, with her parents arguing all the time and abusing her physically, mentally, and emotionally. And that all she wants right now is to move out from that hellhole and save money and to go to the college she wants. Anyway A few hours later that night she tells me that she's really glad she talked to me and got a lot off her chest, and said she feels closer to me. Lol, but still no sex. The last night however she did cuddle up next to me in my sleeping bag which I thought was cute but regardless, we went home and I could tell she was still sad. Before I left her I told her that she can tell me anything that's on her mind, and she said ok. I haven't talked to her since.
Well, there's my story. If you've read this far, thank you for caring, you are a very kind soul. I know I broke many of the fundamental rules that are described in this website, and I know I am thinking too much about her. At this point however what I am thinking about doing is backing off, and let her come to me. I'm focusing on meeting new girls and trying to forget about her. I'd like to believe that she still wants to be with me but doesn't want a long distance relationship, even though I said I would be able to visit her in the weekends. There was also talk at first about her moving down with me but she isn't very serious about that. She said "I would come down there with you, but first I have to break up with my boyfriend and then find a new job, then we'll see". I also think she was still getting over her ex boyfriend, and didn't know at the time what she wanted from me. It wouldn't work out between us unless I stay in town for college, but the college I'm currently going to is way better and I have to think about that too. I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or comments you guys may have about what I should have done differently or what I can do in the future! Thank you, and hope you all do well in your endeavors!
Been reading the site for a while now, love the work you guys put in. This is my first time on the forums because I'm looking for some input about a girl I've known for a while. In fact, she is the reason I began to improve myself in how I do with women, and the reason I found this website. Needless to say, the site changed my life. I have a LONG story, and any advice or comments I can get would be very much appreciated. I do know however that I've messed up with this girl by not moving fast enough on multiple occasions and putting myself in the boyfriend category and probably a lot of other things. But I would still welcome any thoughts you guys have. Thanks in advance!
So, back in junior high, when I was among the most clueless guys with women, there was this cute girl in class who flirted with me and I developed a huge crush, one that still continues to this day, despite the fact that it's been years and despite that I've been with other women. I don't know why, it's just my feelings for her will not extinguish, and I have tried to get over her. Back then and throughout high school I tried anything and everything to get with her, but I was friend zoned of course. After a while we stopped hanging out but we still talked once in a while. Then I moved to college 5 hours away and I almost forgot all about her. Unfortunately, one winter break while I was back in town, she texted me and I went to her house. We made out, almost got undressed, but she stopped and stood up, put her shirt back on, and said let's go to that party I told her about. Not knowing better, I said ok. At the party, things were a little less intense between us, but when we were alone in the room she would take a swig of rum and jump on my lap, kiss me, ask me how the rum tasted, then act normal when people came back. Nothing happened that night, I took her home, then we didn't talk for four days.
I finally couldn't take it anymore and asked her what that was about. What did I mean to her? She said I wouldn't like the answer, so I lost it a bit emotionally. I told her that being with her made me happy and holding her was the best feeling in the world, and some other stupid things. Unfortunately, I was bitter and said something along the lines that she'll never know what it's like. The next day I apologized for the rude things I said and said that I was just upset, and I didn't mean any of it, and I'm better now. She didn't reply to any of the texts, and before I left back to school I invited her out one more time but she adroitly declined. So a few sleepless nights, some alcohol, and some herb later I come across Girls Chase, and I read. A lot. Back in school, I had many girls at my fingertips. I did a lot with them but I didn't sleep with any of them, but I liked knowing and having the power that I could.
A few weeks before Spring term ends, she messages me for the first time in months. She says, that she's really sorry but she lied to me back during winter break, and that in fact she does have feelings for me and wants to be more than friends. She didn't want to lose me because I'm going so far away for college and she didn't know what else to do because long distance relationships don't work. I said that's cool, she shouldn't have lied, but I'm glad she did because it helped me move on. I met other girls since, and we can still be friends. She wasn't happy with that response and implied that she doesn't want to be friends. So I asked her what she wants between us, and she says she doesn't know because she has a boyfriend at the moment. I told her we can hang out sometime for old time's sake when I'm back in town, and she said she'd like to. A few weeks after I got back, I messaged her to go hang out, but she was busy so I stopped talking to her. I didn't want to seem needy and clingy, but I still wanted to hang out with her, so I had my best friend set up a kick back and had him invite her (they are also good friends so I didn't think it would seem odd), so that when we met again it would seem like chance. That night we ended up cuddling and making out and her telling me that she wants to be with me but doesn't want to cheat on her boyfriend. Nothing happens, we talk and hang out a few more times after, one night she has me sleep over at her place because she says I was too tired and drunk to drive home after a party, and each time she told me that she has strong feelings for me, and each time same story with the boyfriend.
Fast forward a couple few weeks and my best friend, her, and I are chilling at my place. We play truth or dare and things got pretty sexy between me and her. She says her boyfriend is her first partner, is pretty boring in bed, wishes he was more rough, and has been ignoring her lately among other things. As we are leaving, she forgets her necklace on my dresser (my friend later told me he suspects she forgot it on purpose so we can be alone). When we are back in my room I decide to stop being such a little bitch. I pull her close and whisper in the sexiest voice I could conjure"If you didn't have a boyfriend, I'd show you rough". And slowly walked away. She stood in the doorway, surprise on her face, and said "Aren't you going to show me a demo?" I came back, closed the door and pushed her against it. I grab her hair, pull back a little, kiss her neck, she moans, I throw her on my bed, her legs wrapped around me, kissing and moaning. I pull away and she pulls me back in to keep making out. I deeply regret that circumstances didn't permit me taking her then and there. So I take my friend home and drop her off. She is very affectionate in the car, tells me that sex with me would be very interesting, and that it's too bad I go to school so far away.
Two days later I find out she is single. She doesn't tell me for a few days. In fact I texted her and asked her why she's binging on ice cream because she had hella sad statuses on facebook and an empty ice cream bucket picture. She says her boyfriend dumped her, and I invite her over for some lunch. She declines but texts me later that night that she wants to go out to eat. So we go, and I tried kissing her twice but she didn't kiss back. She's very sad, we have dinner, I take her home, and I think about it the rest of the night. I talk to my best friend about it, and he says that she broke up with her ex to be with me because we planned a camping trip and she wants to sleep with me during. So, three days later we go camping for three nights. No sex. She was sad during the whole trip, and we barely talked. On the first day however she asked me if she can use my as a rebound, and I said we will see. That night I did get her to moan so loud the first night by sucking/playing with her breasts that our friends heard us in the other tent across the campsite. She would not let me take off her pants though. The second night, we smoke and she takes some... substances... and a couple hours later begins to have a panic attack. My best friend, his lady friend, and I talk her out of it around the campfire. She begins to explain that she's sad because she ruined her relationship because of me. She told her ex that she has a crush on another guy and he dumped her, saying he doesn't have feelings for her anymore. She said she felt tossed aside and abandoned by her boyfriend, who she says is a great guy and she fell hard for him. The lady friend says that who you like can't be helped, and that she has me right here. I say that if she can't be honest with her ex, and if he gets so extremely jealous and insecure, it wasn't going to work out anyway. Friend and lady friend go by the river for a while after that. She tells me more about her life, and how her childhood was rough, with her parents arguing all the time and abusing her physically, mentally, and emotionally. And that all she wants right now is to move out from that hellhole and save money and to go to the college she wants. Anyway A few hours later that night she tells me that she's really glad she talked to me and got a lot off her chest, and said she feels closer to me. Lol, but still no sex. The last night however she did cuddle up next to me in my sleeping bag which I thought was cute but regardless, we went home and I could tell she was still sad. Before I left her I told her that she can tell me anything that's on her mind, and she said ok. I haven't talked to her since.
Well, there's my story. If you've read this far, thank you for caring, you are a very kind soul. I know I broke many of the fundamental rules that are described in this website, and I know I am thinking too much about her. At this point however what I am thinking about doing is backing off, and let her come to me. I'm focusing on meeting new girls and trying to forget about her. I'd like to believe that she still wants to be with me but doesn't want a long distance relationship, even though I said I would be able to visit her in the weekends. There was also talk at first about her moving down with me but she isn't very serious about that. She said "I would come down there with you, but first I have to break up with my boyfriend and then find a new job, then we'll see". I also think she was still getting over her ex boyfriend, and didn't know at the time what she wanted from me. It wouldn't work out between us unless I stay in town for college, but the college I'm currently going to is way better and I have to think about that too. I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or comments you guys may have about what I should have done differently or what I can do in the future! Thank you, and hope you all do well in your endeavors!
