Another Logistics Post

[Bboy100]

Ok, so I just moved out of my apartment back to my parent's place for the summer (no point in paying the extra rent if I'm not in school anymore). Anyways, the good news is that I am now 20 mins away from Seattle. So I'm guessing Day Game is finally going to be a viable option for me (in my school's town, most women are 35+ except for on campus where I'm not yet comfortable approaching). Bad news is that I don't have my own place. So public sex is basically my best option. I could go to hers, but that depends on her logistics...not something I want to count on.

I had a similar logistical post a few days ago, but I'm still unsure of a few things:
1. The most convenient area for dates is about 10 minutes away from my place. The problem is that a lot of girls are coming from the OPPOSITE direction. So it'd be very weird for me to ask them to pick me up. Also, some girls don't want to pick me up/drive in one car anyways. They'd prefer to meetup directly @ our date (I'm guessing this is due to safety concerns/not sending the wrong message).
Being that issues like these come up, I feel like its inevitable that I will sometimes end up on a date where we're in separate cars. How do I get us in the same one?

2. How do I escalate during the day? I feel like parks are a no go while the sun's still up because getting caught is a very real possibility. I can't really think of anywhere to go for car sex which is secluded enough but also not creepy. Any ideas?

3. On a similar note, how do I ask a girl to go to said place with me. Like, even if we're in the car, what would be my reason for why we're over there?

A few other logistical possibilities I've thought about:
1. A second date at her place (again, assuming she has reasonably good logistics). How do I request/plan such a date?

2. My parents are pretty lax and we have a big house. They honestly won't give a shit if I bring a girl over. The problem is more that it would probably be very awkward for her. Can I somehow make this work?

 

[ray_zorse]

Separate cars -- I think the best approach is to tell her she's leaving her car there and you'll bring her back to it later. This keeps her effectively hostage. If you do it the other way around (which I have tried) -- you can end up carless when your escalation goes south. Hehe. Another option is simply have her follow you in her car.

Meeting directly at the date -- this seems pretty standard to me. I wouldn't suggest having her pick you up if it's out of her way. Maybe public transport there. That way, only her car will be an issue when you pull. Having her drive you places can be a good compliance building tactic, too -- "go straight" ... "turn left" ... "park here" etc.

Escalate during the day -- not a problem I wouldn't think. As long as you can get somewhere that's relatively free of people you'll be fine. Is your area hilly? Is there a "lookout" where you could park and see the view of the city (or lights at night)? As to the car sex, maybe you could consider getting your windows uber-tinted.

Plausible deniability -- use your imagination. But one thing to keep in mind is she knows what is going on really. So you don't have to be too plausible. In fact, the weaker the better. When I use plausible deniability I always try to lay it out for her earlier in the date -- that I live close by, etc. If your deniability is too plausible, she might not be expecting to get to a seduction location, and things could go awry. Listening to music in the car, or looking at a view, or just going for a drive, is a perfectly okay excuse.

Second date at her place -- nah. Too iffy. You don't know the layout, you can't plan suitable (compliance-building) activities... there might be unexpected cockblocks... etc. And, planning for a second date is never good. I recently had a date with a real hotty and didn't isolate (time got on a bit as we bullshitted on, then she had to go). Didn't pick up my call yesterday. Typical. You really need to seal the deal first time, second date may well be a fallback, but I would never incorporate it into a real date plan.

Bringing her to your parents place -- no problem. Lots of seducers here live with their parents... Rdawg? Mr.Rob? If there's a back entrance, make sure you have a key for it. Ideally, you just bring her straight to your room and she won't see the rest of the house or meet anyone in it. If that's not possible, just come in, glance at whoever is there, say hi, and then take her to your room. There's no need for you to introduce your guest to the other occupants of the house, although I'm sure it would not hurt.

Ray

 

[Bboy100]

Thanks Ray, this was very useful. Still working on finding a location for public sex. I'm having a very difficult time gauging how secluded is "secluded enough". As for tinted windows- probably not in my budget right now and not worth it since I'll have my own place again in 2 months.

Bringing her to your parents place -- no problem. Lots of seducers here live with their parents... Rdawg? Mr.Rob? If there's a back entrance, make sure you have a key for it. Ideally, you just bring her straight to your room and she won't see the rest of the house or meet anyone in it. If that's not possible, just come in, glance at whoever is there, say hi, and then take her to your room. There's no need for you to introduce your guest to the other occupants of the house, although I'm sure it would not hurt.

Interesting. I never really viewed this as a seriously viable option. I just thought it'd be too weird for her to go to my parent's. I'll look at some LRs and see if I can find any examples of this. But tbh, based on what I'm seeing, it might be what I have to do. lol.

Listening to music in the car

Seems very versatile. Especially if I happen to have the kind of music she likes. But how do I go from "listening to music" to starting the car and driving somewhere?

just going for a drive

I feel like this would be a very strange request to most people. I don't know anyone who just "goes for a drive". I get that she'll probably understand what I really mean but still, what if she questions it? Ex. Why would we randomly go driving around? or Haha, no...that seems pointless/like a waste of gas etc.

 

[ray_zorse]

Reminded me of a Cold Chisel lyric (a popular Aussie pub band from the 80s)

Kids out driving Saturday afternoon pass me by
I'm just savouring familiar sights

Haha, you're probably right, although I deliberately chose that as an example of weak plausible deniability, anyway I suppose what was in my mind was a scenic drive, "The Black Spur" or "The Great Ocean Rd" would be examples around here although they admittedly aren't that local, so hard to do casually in a date situation, a more local one is called "Kew Boulevard" though it's not as good -- all these spots are popular with motorcyclists so that might give you ideas. See http://theclimbingcyclist.com/what-comes-after-the-3-peaks-challenge/ for some pictures. And remember: Nothing is weird if you state it confidently and casually enough. Women are like water. Want to spend some time together in the car? Go for a drive. Simple. Why not. Hehe.

Ray