Oh Pry said:
On a thread a while ago I talked about smashing this Italian chick who told me she usually hates men of my background (not that bluntly) and as soon as that came out, even though the attraction was there, I had to cut off all contact.
Your ego had a negative reaction. . . to what was essentially a compliment from her on your seduction skills.
You were able to suck a girl into your world. She submitted to your frame. . abandoning years of shitty-programming on who she’s supposed to find attractive. And I assume you also fucked her brains out. So regardless of the way she expressed the “I don’t usually go for your type” message she was definitely in awe of you.
Oh Pry said:
Maybe it is because I have a massive ego and never forgive girls I am off to a bad start with even if they are into me later on but anyone else feel that way?
To become a better seducer you must avoid letting your ego interfere with pragmatism. Instead use it like your fundamentals and attractive behaviors, as a tool in your arsenal that you must control efficiently and refine effectively. This paradigm shift was what enabled me to mentally detach from the surprisingly-restrictive identity of a sexy-stud. . . because I realized it’s weak and brittle. Getting trapped in that perspective, makes you see girls who don’t open up immediately, or instantly treat you like a potential lover, as challenging threats to your ego/internal-frame/identity.
To put things simply. . . it ain’t
that serious. Girls are just silly and cute remember? Even the best seducers meet girls who aren’t instantly attracted.
Oh Pry said:
In my view you are always playing defense if that relationship happens and walking on egg shells even if you do win her over.
Frame-control is used internally and externally. So if it feels like you’re constantly playing defense, that’s a sign you need to get better at both.
As Fuck This mentioned, the conversationalist’s frame-control is the perfect tool for these scenarios. Now a major difference between good and great conversationalists is the gap in the amount of mental effort it takes each to use frame-control. As you reap the benefits of your journey towards unconscious competence while using external frame-control techniques. . . your perspective will change radically. Mastering these techniques continues to strengthen your internal frame. And it has been my experience, that becoming a great conversationalist helps you take maybe girls off-the-fence with supreme ease.
As you talk to women. . . the words to set useful frames automatically arrange themselves in your mind at breakneck speeds.
You can even learn how to naturally and smoothly lead any conversation into topics that engage with her emotions and imagination. After getting to this point I noticed the more time girls spend talking to me. . . the more they see me as a fascinating and sexually-charismatic man. This is a process that begins during casual chats and light conversation, all the way into casual relationships and LTRs. Attraction is a result of perception. So it is pragmatic to control her perception of you.
And just like any tool in your arsenal. Once you reach unconscious competence with frame-control tech. . . you won’t have to even think about using them.
This is a step towards blurring through new conquests while running everything on autopilot. These days unless I do a mental recap of my seductions, with the level of precision that enables me to write detailed lay reports. . . I often forget about the idea of “winning” girls over because it feels like I barely did anything at all.
