Anyone have success with Instagram?

[ulrich]

@FrothySolutions no idea man… seems like you’re focusing on statistic anomalies trying to look for patterns.

Good luck.

 

[FrothySolutions]

@FrothySolutions no idea man… seems like you’re focusing on statistic anomalies trying to look for patterns.

Good luck.

These aren't anomalies, at least as far as which men they follow.

Now, they might be considered anomalies as far as total accounts they follow, Instagram sex women tend to follow other Instagram sex women. 100 or so other models, and then the odd man here and there. I wanna figure out how to be one of those odd men.

Has anyone here managed to attract the attention of the kinds of women I'm talking about?

 

[Will_V]

1500? It's a much more exclusive club than that. Maybe 150 people. Or 200. But very rarely is it ever over 1,000. Just one reason why this is so enticing to me.

Now, why is that so enticing? Because the way I understand it, she has taken interest in me. She is taking the initiative to follow me. So I'm questioning your scenario where I have to follow her and somehow get someone to introduce me to her. Is that how it's done?

Because Carmen Sandi/thatgreeneyedgirl22_ follows this guy, BlackFrecklesRawHype. Some kind of radio podcast guy. 741 followers as of right now.

Hype (@blackfrecklesrawhype) • Instagram photos and videos

936 Followers, 476 Following, 104 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Hype (@blackfrecklesrawhype)

www.instagram.com

And dig this, BlackFreckles doesn't even know who Carmen Sandi is, didn't know she was following him. So she did all of the initiating.

But maybe BlackFreckles has his own methods. If anyone here has Instagram thirst traps bugging them for cock, I'd like to hear your methods.

I don't use Instagram, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

But what if she was scrolling around and just happened to like the guy for whatever reason? Girls are curious, they get turned on every now and then by all sorts of things that are not part of nature's script about what's supposed to be attractive. Maybe he looks like her dad or her first crush, or the vet that saved her puppy, who knows.

The thing is that if this is the case, it's very hard to game that, because a) you don't know how he came up on her radar and b) you don't know what she followed him FOR - is she sexually attracted, or is she just curious about something random.

Guys tend to think that women operate on this hard track of hypergamy and SMV logic, when in fact I think it's more of a succession of whims and fancies loosely driven by core attraction traits. That's why I stay away from social media myself because when I am in front of a girl I know what's going on, I don't have to pretend to understand anything, I just do whatever makes her face light up and pupils dilate. Even over text I start to get annoyed because, for lack of context, I have to try and sit there and think like a woman receiving my texts, which I can hardly do anyway. Gaming on Instagram would be 100x worse because there isn't even the context of our first interaction to give me any clue about the particular porridge of emotion and logic she uses to navigate the world.

 

[FrothySolutions]

I don't use Instagram, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

But what if she was scrolling around and just happened to like the guy for whatever reason? Girls are curious, they get turned on every now and then by all sorts of things that are not part of nature's script about what's supposed to be attractive. Maybe he looks like her dad or her first crush, or the vet that saved her puppy, who knows.

The thing is that if this is the case, it's very hard to game that, because a) you don't know how he came up on her radar and b) you don't know what she followed him FOR - is she sexually attracted, or is she just curious about something random.

Guys tend to think that women operate on this hard track of hypergamy and SMV logic, when in fact I think it's more of a succession of whims and fancies loosely driven by core attraction traits. That's why I stay away from social media myself because when I am in front of a girl I know what's going on, I don't have to pretend to understand anything, I just do whatever makes her face light up and pupils dilate. Even over text I start to get annoyed because, for lack of context, I have to try and sit there and think like a woman receiving my texts, which I can hardly do anyway. Gaming on Instagram would be 100x worse because there isn't even the context of our first interaction to give me any clue about the particular porridge of emotion and logic she uses to navigate the world.

What do you mean by "game that?"

If someone has experience in attracting the attention of Instagram women, I think their insights would be valuable to me.

 

[trashKENNUT]

I can't just DM them out of the blue. Hence the need for lots of followers/exposure/whatever makes you worth the time of high level people.

As a person who has low tolerance for bullshit, drama, politics, social justice, but I do pay very high attention to people and bullshit and a lot of bullshit....

Hear this from me.

High level clients, high level people don't go thru your funnel (followers and websites and whatever). They know that it is a frame war.

And unless you have a lot of money, street smart and actually solve problems......
Don't do it. Don't buy followers.

Sam Ovens and Alex Becker has a lot of high level clients and they don't even advertise! Thus, your penchant for wanting more followers falls flat.

z@c+

 

[FrothySolutions]

As a person who has low tolerance for bullshit, drama, politics, social justice, but I do pay very high attention to people and bullshit and a lot of bullshit....

Hear this from me.

High level clients, high level people don't go thru your funnel (followers and websites and whatever). They know that it is a frame war.

And unless you have a lot of money, street smart and actually solve problems......
Don't do it. Don't buy followers.

Sam Ovens and Alex Becker has a lot of high level clients and they don't even advertise! Thus, your penchant for wanting more followers falls flat.

z@c+

So what do they go through? How do I earn the right to have DM conversations with high level people?

 

[trashKENNUT]

So what do they go through? How do I earn the right to have DM conversations with high level people?

First Example: Dance Trainer that went to earn a Letter Invitation To Perform For Then President at a Charity event.

I needed to become a dance trainer and perform kpop dancers for like a year before a popular local dancer approach me and wanted to befriend me. My Instagram was full of dance photos.

My social media was full narcissism. (Kidding)

Second Example: Private Email between Chase and I, beyond Girlschase.com

I participated in the formation in Girlschase forum when it first started at 2012 and help share what I had. Eventually, I manage to get a hold of Chase email and we message back and forth.

A lot of great knowledge from Chase.

Third Example: Facebook Ads From Zac

A former client of mine message me that he likes to engage in my services. He spent a lot of money with me and his advertising budget was generous.

It was my fault because I failed to get him clients consistently. We were kinda there but Covid happens and shit went south. We still in good terms as in I can message him information and he is fine with it.

Fourth Example: Invitations

Almost all the parties that have the people I like or at least about decent number of them because there's always many social climbers compared to value providers.

It's all invited. Never about money. Never.

TLDR: Read the examples. This is just a few. Money only amplifies. I hope this helps

z@c+

 

[FrothySolutions]

First Example: Dance Trainer that went to earn a Letter Invitation To Perform For Then President at a Charity event.

I needed to become a dance trainer and perform kpop dancers for like a year before a popular local dancer approach me and wanted to befriend me. My Instagram was full of dance photos.

My social media was full narcissism. (Kidding)

Second Example: Private Email between Chase and I, beyond Girlschase.com

I participated in the formation in Girlschase forum when it first started at 2012 and help share what I had. Eventually, I manage to get a hold of Chase email and we message back and forth.

A lot of great knowledge from Chase.

Third Example: Facebook Ads From Zac

A former client of mine message me that he likes to engage in my services. He spent a lot of money with me and his advertising budget was generous.

It was my fault because I failed to get him clients consistently. We were kinda there but Covid happens and shit went south. We still in good terms as in I can message him information and he is fine with it.

Fourth Example: Invitations

Almost all the parties that have the people I like or at least about decent number of them because there's always many social climbers compared to value providers.

It's all invited. Never about money. Never.

TLDR: Read the examples. This is just a few. Money only amplifies. I hope this helps

z@c+

The dance example, you just posted dance photos. I'm guessing they were of such quality that the trainer picked you out.

The @Chase example, well that's because you're a founding member of this forum, you struck while the iron was hot. A better question would be "How did you get to be involved in the founding of this forum?"

The "Facebook Ads" example, first of all I'm not sure what you're talking about here. What was your fault? You didn't explain any wrongdoing you did or some bad thing that happened. But I'm guessing whatever happened, it's because you offer services. That's why that happened.

The "Invitations" example, are you saying there aren't very many high level people at those parties? But how do you get invited? Who is inviting you?

 

[Will_V]

So what do they go through? How do I earn the right to have DM conversations with high level people?

You don't, generally. But from what I understand, getting the attention of rich/powerful people is most probable when you offer them something that a) they don't have and b) they don't know where to find/aren't offered it often or at all. For b), you either offer something so spectacularly high quality that it's better than 99.9% of the competition (very hard to do), or you do something different, unusual and impressive.

That's why daygame works for beautiful girls, because most of them are not approached in the day when men are sober and don't have any alcohol or crowd of mates egging them on to stop them shaking in their boots. You automatically categorize yourself as completely different from most men she has ever seen walk toward her with the intent of making something happen.

For these girls you want on instagram, you're probably better off creating a BDSM/Kama Sutra profile that says you're the reincarnation of Eros than worrying about how many followers you've got.

 

[FrothySolutions]

You don't, generally. But from what I understand, getting the attention of rich/powerful people is most probable when you offer them something that a) they don't have and b) they don't know where to find/aren't offered it often or at all. For b), you either offer something so spectacularly high quality that it's better than 99.9% of the competition (very hard to do), or you do something different, unusual and impressive.

That's why daygame works for beautiful girls, because most of them are not approached in the day when men are sober and don't have any alcohol or crowd of mates egging them on to stop them shaking in their boots. You automatically categorize yourself as completely different from most men she has ever seen walk toward her with the intent of making something happen.

For these girls you want on instagram, you're probably better off creating a BDSM/Kama Sutra profile that says you're the reincarnation of Eros than worrying about how many followers you've got.

Why would being a BDSM practitioner earn me the interest of Instagram models? I have the sneaking suspicion that Instagram models aren't starved for dick. That this oversexed act is just an act, and what they really want is what comes with having all of these satisfied customers. Maybe money, maybe prestige.

But they do follow men now and then, and that's what's got me so intrigued. How to pull that off of all things.

 

[Will_V]

Why would being a BDSM practitioner earn me the interest of Instagram models? I have the sneaking suspicion that Instagram models aren't starved for dick.

That's exactly the point, they are surrounded by guys who, believing that all they need to go to bed with a guy is lengthy praise and/or a big bank account, try to give them what they already have. How many times do you think she'd encounter someone who truly comes across as being an expert at sex, and knows how to communicate it in an enticing way? How many of these guys chasing her would she be able to vet as having any prowess at sex, let alone kinky stuff, for example? And being beset by so many thirsty guys she can't even see, how comfortable do you think she would be to giving any of them a chance, given that most of them are living in their moms basement with their life up in flames, spending their pocket money on onlyfans and commenting on instagram profiles?

That's why the more 'high value' a person gets, the smaller their circle and the less they are impressed by people even close to average, but the more easily they are impressed by truly exceptional things, and especially things which stand in their own context, that they have not created a mental pigeon hole for yet.

 

[FrothySolutions]

That's exactly the point, they are surrounded by guys who, believing that all they need to go to bed with a guy is lengthy praise and/or a big bank account, try to give them what they already have. How many times do you think she'd encounter someone who truly comes across as being an expert at sex, and knows how to communicate it in an enticing way? How many of these guys chasing her would she be able to vet as having any prowess at sex, let alone kinky stuff, for example? And being beset by so many thirsty guys she can't even see, how comfortable do you think she would be to giving any of them a chance, given that most of them are living in their moms basement with their life up in flames, spending their pocket money on onlyfans and commenting on instagram profiles?

That's why the more 'high value' a person gets, the smaller their circle and the less they are impressed by people even close to average, but the more easily they are impressed by truly exceptional things, and especially things which stand in their own context, that they have not created a mental pigeon hole for yet.

I don't understand, why would she be interested in reaching out to a sex expert?

 

[Will_V]

I don't understand, why would she be interested in reaching out to a sex expert?

The goal is getting her follow, remember? If you're doing unusual stuff that arouses her curiosity, she's more likely to do that. No matter what you do and what she does, it'll almost certainly be you who actually reaches out.

Look you're asking a question akin to 'how to I get famous?' and then asking 'OK but why would people pay attention to me?' or 'I want to start a business and get rich' and then 'OK but why would anyone want this product?'. Something tells me you haven't really thought about it beyond the fact that you want it. And when you're trying to do something that everyone else is trying to do and 99% are failing, you can't be sitting around at square one asking basic questions.

Your mind has to go far beyond the kind of thinking of all your competitors, to those kinds of strategies that makes everyone else swallow and excuse themselves with "nah I won't try it, probably not gonna work, too risky, doesn't make sense dude" and scuttle off (the same way the average guy feels about daygame), but you just have a feeling it might work and you're not so afraid of giving it a shot.

 

[FrothySolutions]

The goal is getting her follow, remember? If you're doing unusual stuff that arouses her curiosity, she's more likely to do that. No matter what you do and what she does, it'll almost certainly be you who actually reaches out.

Look you're asking a question akin to 'how to I get famous?' and then asking 'OK but why would people pay attention to me?' or 'I want to start a business and get rich' and then 'OK but why would anyone want this product?'. Something tells me you haven't really thought about it beyond the fact that you want it. And when you're trying to do something that everyone else is trying to do and 99% are failing, you can't be sitting around at square one asking basic questions.

Your mind has to go far beyond the kind of thinking of all your competitors, to those kinds of strategies that makes everyone else swallow and excuse themselves with "nah I won't try it, probably not gonna work, too risky, doesn't make sense dude" and scuttle off (the same way the average guy feels about daygame), but you just have a feeling it might work and you're not so afraid of giving it a shot.

So I have to reach out. I can't get her to initiate?

And I think my question is a little more complicated than "How do I get famous?" Because there's a lot of ways to be famous. What I'm asking for is more specific than that. I want to be interesting to Instagram models. Not necessarily interesting to anyone else. Not "interesting in general." I'm not interested in normie attention.

 

[trashKENNUT]

What I'm asking for is more specific than that. I want to be interesting to Instagram models

We moving too much. So this is your goal.

Stick to this.

Be a celebrity. I don't just pose photos that it is of such "quality". I was an actual dancer that teaches and i competed locally. I have had friends who competed internationally. And they work hard.

Not just pay money and everything just appeared!

I don't just post photos. My photos are what is how girls start dm-ing or show up in your face and find excuses for them to be alone with you.

z@c+

 

[trashKENNUT]

This should help too.

Read what Chase noted.

Meeting Quality Women via Friends or ?

Hi Guys, Dating Quality Girls seems to be a barrier that i haven't fully experience. It's like i am only touching the surface, and i will want to learn, as much. Everything is always important. Now the one thing i discover to date quality women, is that your fundamentals must be tight. You...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

Create a simple cool Instagram with like 9 pictures then post on stories at events/cool things then mostly network via DM’s.

I'm pretty sure that 9 picture thing doesn't work, but your mileage may vary.

Social Media is 2 things, 1) what are you doing now, 2) what did you do before. And a stale profile is something that hasn't been updated in the past 24 hours.

As for networking via DM, the hotter she is, the more likely you're gonna be 1 of 1,000 DMs.

If you online date, social media is a must.

If you don't online date, they're gonna look you up anyway and add you.

 

[trashKENNUT]

And importantly, this is a sidenote.

Warning: FACTS & My PAINBODY *below*

You can don't accept their friend request or they will find someone who know you and then they gaslight manipulate among each other
And that everyone bitches on TikTok and then they ask where are all the good men gone.

That's society for us. Claiming China is terrible while everyone create mental concentration camps among each other. Jerking each other off.

I know this because I have observe girls in their social groups. They fucking drop each other like it's trash man. And This is also where I differ from Jordan Peterson and Chase Amante. I kinda hate Chase and Jordan for this.

Females are not people oriented. It's kinda this naive worldview. And That's the manipulation and also knowledge that we didn't had.

Females are like law of reinforcement. And a weak membrane (men) destroys civilization.

The stupidest thing ever. That's humans. That's us.
Sorry for my painbody being out in this post. But it is important to note this. Until Chase writes an article better than "The Beauty of Female", then I listen.

otherwise, females are not people oriented.

z@c+

 

[Troy]

And importantly, this is a sidenote.

Warning: FACTS & My PAINBODY *below*

You can don't accept their friend request or they will find someone who know you and then they gaslight manipulate among each other
And that everyone bitches on TikTok and then they ask where are all the good men gone.

That's society for us. Claiming China is terrible while everyone create mental concentration camps among each other. Jerking each other off.

I know this because I have observe girls in their social groups. They fucking drop each other like it's trash man. And This is also where I differ from Jordan Peterson and Chase Amante. I kinda hate Chase and Jordan for this.

Females are not people oriented. It's kinda this naive worldview. And That's the manipulation and also knowledge that we didn't had.

Females are like law of reinforcement. And a weak membrane (men) destroys civilization.

The stupidest thing ever. That's humans. That's us.
Sorry for my painbody being out in this post. But it is important to note this. Until Chase writes an article better than "The Beauty of Female", then I listen.

otherwise, females are not people oriented.

z@c+

@ZacAdam

I am going to side step this conversation a little bit. And provide you with a gentle, but small nudge. Just some feedback I hope you will consider. There are times I read your post, and I find myself reading it 3-6 times just to understand everything you are saying. Some of the things you bring up are true and valuable.

But the way it is written, with sometimes unnecessary details, makes it difficult to understand. You have been on the boards just 1 year before I got here. And just from my observation, your writing style has not changed.

For instance, you said "That's society for us. Claiming China is terrible while everyone create mental concentration camps among each other. Jerking each other off.

I honestly got confused with that line you wrote. It does not relate to the point you are trying to make. I would like to make suggestion. You can take it or leave it. I would recommend learning copywriting or in general improving your English. I am not sure if your native language is English or not, but some stuff you say is sometimes extremely difficult to understand.

I also believe others on here may feel the same way. How I know? I observe your posts vs. others. Most people generally get more likes (or other reactions) on their posts than you do here. This may be the reason why.

I hope this off topic advice helps.

 

[trashKENNUT]

For instance, you said "That's society for us. Claiming China is terrible while everyone create mental concentration camps among each other. Jerking each other off.

To make it simple:

1)WIA mentioned that no matter what you do, she's going to find you.

2)Women proclaimed that men are this, this and this. We should control them. BLEAR! DIE ALL MEN

3)Society in general proclaims that the CCP is bad. Fuck them. Everyone must live in freedom. We should not control other people's lifes.

4)Women proceeds to search men online. And this can go to work places, everywhere

5)Everyone, really to be honest.

So here's the thing. Am I the crazy Girlschase member here or am I protecting the delusion that we can control things?

Why is everyone walking on eggshells?
because if this is where we are, where we all watching each other.

And that's exactly my point. Most people will shut the fuck up. Because we are at that point in society soon enough where everyone will be pissed. Because it's all about power and control. It's beyond ridiculous

z@c+