Anyone in here experienced success with blonde bombshells before?
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OP,
I think everyone on this board has told you everything you can and need to hear, and ozzo has provided some great input as well. No one else is going to be able to say anything that will magically make things better for you and place a "blonde bombshell" on your lap, and if someone claims he can, then he is lying to you. All of the input you have been given here is good, and now it is on you to get the girls you want to get.
If you really feel like you are at that point where it is hopeless to interact with these women and see success, and it is something you truly desire, then it is time for you to consider moving. It is very possible that your location might be a large part of what is holding you back, and I'm not sure if you didn't reference the part about me telling you try a different location because you can't or because you feel it won't help. If it's the latter, then you are very, very mistaken.
I know what types of "blonde bombshells" you are talking about. They are all over San Diego (where I live), and many of them are hotter than the girls you've linked on this forum. San Diego is absolutely loaded with toned, tan, blonde babes with giant racks, especially by the college towns and beaches. I'm not saying you necessarily have to consider this location, but I would do some research into what it is you are looking for and where you can find it. My guess would be that Miami, Orange County, and San Diego have a LOT of exactly what you're looking for. Take a week-long vacation sometime to one of these places and see if it brings you a whole new world of excitement.
- Franco
I think everyone on this board has told you everything you can and need to hear, and ozzo has provided some great input as well. No one else is going to be able to say anything that will magically make things better for you and place a "blonde bombshell" on your lap, and if someone claims he can, then he is lying to you. All of the input you have been given here is good, and now it is on you to get the girls you want to get.
If you really feel like you are at that point where it is hopeless to interact with these women and see success, and it is something you truly desire, then it is time for you to consider moving. It is very possible that your location might be a large part of what is holding you back, and I'm not sure if you didn't reference the part about me telling you try a different location because you can't or because you feel it won't help. If it's the latter, then you are very, very mistaken.
I know what types of "blonde bombshells" you are talking about. They are all over San Diego (where I live), and many of them are hotter than the girls you've linked on this forum. San Diego is absolutely loaded with toned, tan, blonde babes with giant racks, especially by the college towns and beaches. I'm not saying you necessarily have to consider this location, but I would do some research into what it is you are looking for and where you can find it. My guess would be that Miami, Orange County, and San Diego have a LOT of exactly what you're looking for. Take a week-long vacation sometime to one of these places and see if it brings you a whole new world of excitement.
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I'll admit I've only read about half of this thread before chiming in but I kinda got bored with the repitive topics.
Why are "white american women" some sort of holy grail to males of other ethnicities? And why do they blame everything on outside factors?
Sure, media and whatever can give certain impressions but culture and how it shapes guys seems to be a bigger factor in success or lack there of from anything I've ever seen. I have quite a few Asian friends and/or co-workers who also seem to desire white, mostly blonde women. A few are successful, but these also tend to be the guys who appear more "American", and are very successful in other areas of their life like career, etc...
On the other hand, a larger proportion of them tend to be quieter, and more shy, slow to approach, talk quietly and immediately can be perceived as lacking confidence upon meeting them.
It has nothing to do with racism. The guys who are succeeding pushed past what may have been drilled into them growing up in a culture which is more reserved and assimilated into American life much more. And I really don't just mean in terms of meeting women. They tend to be successful in their careers, well liked, very talkative and social people.
Yet for the others, instead of looking at THAT angle of things, they blame the women and the meida and their race or culture, etc... etc... It's frustrating to hear.
Now, I am not Asian so I am only commenting on what I've observed. But let me give you a different angle...
I am 6'1', slim, athletic build, blonde hair, blue eyes and I am an Irishman living in Boston... Irish capital of America, and yes, I do have "that" accent. And not being vane but I'm not terrible to look at. I'm not a 10 by any means, but I take care of my appearance.
But I arrived here several years ago. And do you know what was the most frustrating and demoralizing thing ever? EVERYONE, guys and girls, commented all the time how all that put together must mean I "had it easy". That girls must be flocking to me. Indian co-workers constantly wanted to hear about my weekend every monday assuming I was swimming in it. Even the local, white males insisted the accent alone meant I was stealing the local girls from under their noses.
But do you know the truth? I had zero game. Add up the description of me above and everyone assumes that I'm the *perfect* guy to bag one of those blonde bombshells and these guys act jealous, obnoxious and even angry towards me at times. But guess what? I come from a MUCH more conservative up-bringing than most Americans in a city like this. I was rared to be quiet and respectful and do as I was told, not to speak up. I was meak. I had every bit of a problem as Asian guys did. I felt I didn't fit in and even being a foreigner was hurting me, as girls wouldn't date a foreigner like me. So what was the deal? I had everything to get that bombshell according to these guys yet I couldn't get a girl AT ALL!
Honestly guys, it was down to having some confidence, and a little game. I do quite well for myself these days but just like Chase or Franco or anyone else in the world who's "good" at this, it's ALWAYS going to be harder to get a woman who is in serious demand than it is another. If these girls you describe are indeed "bombshells" and especially if they have more going on for themselves too, then they have options, and you need to bring your absolute A game to get them. End of story. There's nothing else to it.
Why are "white american women" some sort of holy grail to males of other ethnicities? And why do they blame everything on outside factors?
Sure, media and whatever can give certain impressions but culture and how it shapes guys seems to be a bigger factor in success or lack there of from anything I've ever seen. I have quite a few Asian friends and/or co-workers who also seem to desire white, mostly blonde women. A few are successful, but these also tend to be the guys who appear more "American", and are very successful in other areas of their life like career, etc...
On the other hand, a larger proportion of them tend to be quieter, and more shy, slow to approach, talk quietly and immediately can be perceived as lacking confidence upon meeting them.
It has nothing to do with racism. The guys who are succeeding pushed past what may have been drilled into them growing up in a culture which is more reserved and assimilated into American life much more. And I really don't just mean in terms of meeting women. They tend to be successful in their careers, well liked, very talkative and social people.
Yet for the others, instead of looking at THAT angle of things, they blame the women and the meida and their race or culture, etc... etc... It's frustrating to hear.
Now, I am not Asian so I am only commenting on what I've observed. But let me give you a different angle...
I am 6'1', slim, athletic build, blonde hair, blue eyes and I am an Irishman living in Boston... Irish capital of America, and yes, I do have "that" accent. And not being vane but I'm not terrible to look at. I'm not a 10 by any means, but I take care of my appearance.
But I arrived here several years ago. And do you know what was the most frustrating and demoralizing thing ever? EVERYONE, guys and girls, commented all the time how all that put together must mean I "had it easy". That girls must be flocking to me. Indian co-workers constantly wanted to hear about my weekend every monday assuming I was swimming in it. Even the local, white males insisted the accent alone meant I was stealing the local girls from under their noses.
But do you know the truth? I had zero game. Add up the description of me above and everyone assumes that I'm the *perfect* guy to bag one of those blonde bombshells and these guys act jealous, obnoxious and even angry towards me at times. But guess what? I come from a MUCH more conservative up-bringing than most Americans in a city like this. I was rared to be quiet and respectful and do as I was told, not to speak up. I was meak. I had every bit of a problem as Asian guys did. I felt I didn't fit in and even being a foreigner was hurting me, as girls wouldn't date a foreigner like me. So what was the deal? I had everything to get that bombshell according to these guys yet I couldn't get a girl AT ALL!
Honestly guys, it was down to having some confidence, and a little game. I do quite well for myself these days but just like Chase or Franco or anyone else in the world who's "good" at this, it's ALWAYS going to be harder to get a woman who is in serious demand than it is another. If these girls you describe are indeed "bombshells" and especially if they have more going on for themselves too, then they have options, and you need to bring your absolute A game to get them. End of story. There's nothing else to it.
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I agree with -B-. The thing about me is that I am different about my roots, like other than my facial features and coloration there is nothing brown about me. It is not because I have shunned the culture, it is because I have never had the chance to know it. I was born and raised here in the states. Think of me as how you would think of some American with British heritage, it is his heritage and that is it. TBH, I thought it would give me the exotic effect that draws girls in.
Franco: I have been to Miami before, it was mostly Latinas, not many White girls there from my visit. I have considered moving and it will happen soon, definitely considering San Diego and I will update you on the results. One other place I have been hearing good things about is Minneapolis, says there are a lot of women of Scandinavian heritage with the Blonde bombshell look. I am not asking for magically making things better, if that was the case I guess I would just hire an escort lol!
What I am asking for in this thread is a brainstorm type of method. Chase said to try the chinstrap and soulpatch and so far it has gotten me better results with some girls.
Eternity: Scarlett never did it for me. I am more into a girl like Elisha Cuthbert or Torrie Wilson.
As for now, I am just going to keep testing the waters. Chase's advice on getting chinstrap + soul patch was good and I would like more stuff like that because he was able to admit all women are different and what appeals to a particular niche. If anyone has advice like that, it would be appreciated.
Franco: I have been to Miami before, it was mostly Latinas, not many White girls there from my visit. I have considered moving and it will happen soon, definitely considering San Diego and I will update you on the results. One other place I have been hearing good things about is Minneapolis, says there are a lot of women of Scandinavian heritage with the Blonde bombshell look. I am not asking for magically making things better, if that was the case I guess I would just hire an escort lol!
What I am asking for in this thread is a brainstorm type of method. Chase said to try the chinstrap and soulpatch and so far it has gotten me better results with some girls.
Eternity: Scarlett never did it for me. I am more into a girl like Elisha Cuthbert or Torrie Wilson.
As for now, I am just going to keep testing the waters. Chase's advice on getting chinstrap + soul patch was good and I would like more stuff like that because he was able to admit all women are different and what appeals to a particular niche. If anyone has advice like that, it would be appreciated.
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To Estate:
I know this will pop up time and time again but I can answer your question. Can't speak for all minorities but there are some reasons I do find White women to be the most attractive. Other than sexual attraction, whenever I go to a well off area, majority of the hottest girls are all White. Now I am not that attracted to Asian or Black women and I have been around them during parts of my life so it is not like I am speaking from ignorance and stereotypes. Latinas are a mixed bag and mixed girls are either a hit or miss for me. White girls are the ones I am generally into because I have been around them more, relate to them easily, can talk to them about a lot of stuff without worrying about offending them (not the case with Black or Puerto Rican girls here), and I generally have better experiences with their families as well.
Now as for the blonde bombshell thing, I guess it is a way for me to get farther away from my AFC past. I know it sounds unreasonable and might not make sense but it would be a good benchmark for me to show that I have come far from my AFC days if I can get the kind of women I have always done poorly with. Not really that simple either though, it will also show me that I am somewhat in the same class as an elite playboy once I can get the kind of women who are perceived as attractive by society and the ones every guy wants.
As for blaming outside factors, here in American society, I notice that whenever an attractive White women dates or marries interracial there is backlash. It is much worse in high school or college. Some of my White friends have told me how their parents have told their sisters not to go interracial and told them about the consequences of what would happen if they do. There is a reason you don't see the girl like the one in the pic I posted going for Asian guys or foreign looking guys and usually going for White guys, because there is a lot of backlash in American society when a White female decides to go interracial with a guy that is not White himself. On most discussions which take place on the web this type of stuff results in total hell, the racists come running out of the woodworks much faster than they would if they heard some minority won the lottery and became a millionaire. Even women from minority backgrounds get enraged over this interracial pairing. It is very different than a White guy going for Asian women.
I know this will pop up time and time again but I can answer your question. Can't speak for all minorities but there are some reasons I do find White women to be the most attractive. Other than sexual attraction, whenever I go to a well off area, majority of the hottest girls are all White. Now I am not that attracted to Asian or Black women and I have been around them during parts of my life so it is not like I am speaking from ignorance and stereotypes. Latinas are a mixed bag and mixed girls are either a hit or miss for me. White girls are the ones I am generally into because I have been around them more, relate to them easily, can talk to them about a lot of stuff without worrying about offending them (not the case with Black or Puerto Rican girls here), and I generally have better experiences with their families as well.
Now as for the blonde bombshell thing, I guess it is a way for me to get farther away from my AFC past. I know it sounds unreasonable and might not make sense but it would be a good benchmark for me to show that I have come far from my AFC days if I can get the kind of women I have always done poorly with. Not really that simple either though, it will also show me that I am somewhat in the same class as an elite playboy once I can get the kind of women who are perceived as attractive by society and the ones every guy wants.
As for blaming outside factors, here in American society, I notice that whenever an attractive White women dates or marries interracial there is backlash. It is much worse in high school or college. Some of my White friends have told me how their parents have told their sisters not to go interracial and told them about the consequences of what would happen if they do. There is a reason you don't see the girl like the one in the pic I posted going for Asian guys or foreign looking guys and usually going for White guys, because there is a lot of backlash in American society when a White female decides to go interracial with a guy that is not White himself. On most discussions which take place on the web this type of stuff results in total hell, the racists come running out of the woodworks much faster than they would if they heard some minority won the lottery and became a millionaire. Even women from minority backgrounds get enraged over this interracial pairing. It is very different than a White guy going for Asian women.
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Estate said:
This. Been trying to convey this to all the OP's with this mentality, thanks for the refresher.
@O.P- I bet if Scarlett was on your lap, whispering in your ear how bad she wanted suck and fuck you, you would think differently. Especially with those large blue, fuck me now, eyes she possesses.
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Eternity: Well no shit lol. Even though I am not that crazy for her, she is better looking than over 90% of women out there.
I still think that even if I had myself together mentally around these women, there is some catch or something I am missing that these girls want. For one thing I notice some of them like athletes so I am working on getting that athletic build though I have seen men from my background with that athletic build who don't get those girls.
Could definitely be an issue of location as much as I want to ignore it and see other culprits at play. Another thing I was thinking about was maybe getting into some sort of a niche that attracts the types of women I like in high numbers, bartender is one that comes to mind, would love to know of others.
I still think that even if I had myself together mentally around these women, there is some catch or something I am missing that these girls want. For one thing I notice some of them like athletes so I am working on getting that athletic build though I have seen men from my background with that athletic build who don't get those girls.
Could definitely be an issue of location as much as I want to ignore it and see other culprits at play. Another thing I was thinking about was maybe getting into some sort of a niche that attracts the types of women I like in high numbers, bartender is one that comes to mind, would love to know of others.
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OP,
This is part of just the basic fundamentals that are recommended on this website. Get sexy facial hair, a sexy haircut, sexy clothes, etc. I'm not really sure what it is you're looking for that isn't already here. In terms of clothing, it's going to vary based on where you are gaming white girls, but if you're going to a nightclub, you can almost always go with something universal like the below image and achieve good results:
From what I've noticed, medium to longer length hair tends to be the most attractive on brown men. Other than that, work on keeping your voice sexy and, if you have an accent, minimize it as much as possible. You want to sound American and well-educated for the blonde hotties.
Becoming a club promoter or bartender will skyrocket your pre-selection value (and your confidence), but holding down a job like this while simultaneously living in a popular city (like San Diego) isn't always the easiest given the price of living. It helps to know people already in the business and be good friends with them.
- Franco
This is part of just the basic fundamentals that are recommended on this website. Get sexy facial hair, a sexy haircut, sexy clothes, etc. I'm not really sure what it is you're looking for that isn't already here. In terms of clothing, it's going to vary based on where you are gaming white girls, but if you're going to a nightclub, you can almost always go with something universal like the below image and achieve good results:
From what I've noticed, medium to longer length hair tends to be the most attractive on brown men. Other than that, work on keeping your voice sexy and, if you have an accent, minimize it as much as possible. You want to sound American and well-educated for the blonde hotties.
Becoming a club promoter or bartender will skyrocket your pre-selection value (and your confidence), but holding down a job like this while simultaneously living in a popular city (like San Diego) isn't always the easiest given the price of living. It helps to know people already in the business and be good friends with them.
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Hey OP,
The advice from the more experienced members here is absolutely right. It's all about your attitude. I'm an asian who grew up in a western country, and I used to have the same victim mentality that white girls are better than other types of girls (thanks to the media and some of my asian friends who still has the same victim mentality)...but I was mistaken. Everyone is unique in their own way. I bet if you DO get a blonde bombshell gf, you might be a little disappointed because they are no different than the other girls.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtKWho ... UlzkpMpENj
Research someone of your own race who's very successful with blondes, then put their picture on your phone to reframe your belief.
What I found out from my cold approaches these days is that it doesn't matter what race the girl is, if my fundamentals are not right, I'll get rejected most of the time even if the girl is an asian.
Start working on your fundamentals, and start approaching just blondes in general then slowly work your way up. They're really not that different. The only difference is their hair colour, which people can easily change these days. If you are so good with brunettes, then there should be no reason why you suck with blondes.
Good Luck
Smith
The advice from the more experienced members here is absolutely right. It's all about your attitude. I'm an asian who grew up in a western country, and I used to have the same victim mentality that white girls are better than other types of girls (thanks to the media and some of my asian friends who still has the same victim mentality)...but I was mistaken. Everyone is unique in their own way. I bet if you DO get a blonde bombshell gf, you might be a little disappointed because they are no different than the other girls.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtKWho ... UlzkpMpENj
Research someone of your own race who's very successful with blondes, then put their picture on your phone to reframe your belief.
What I found out from my cold approaches these days is that it doesn't matter what race the girl is, if my fundamentals are not right, I'll get rejected most of the time even if the girl is an asian.
Start working on your fundamentals, and start approaching just blondes in general then slowly work your way up. They're really not that different. The only difference is their hair colour, which people can easily change these days. If you are so good with brunettes, then there should be no reason why you suck with blondes.
Good Luck
Smith
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Estate's experience mirrors mines. I am a White male who was also raised in a more religious kind of family in Kansas . Was never a part of the in crowd in high school and lost my virginity to an emo girl (who was an amazing fuck btw). In college I was more of a recluse (not by choice though) because I couldn't fit in with the Greek Scene that dominated the school, didn't blossom until later on in my college years. Most ONS were from foreign girls (European, more Eastern Euro but dated a German girl), White girls in more of the alternative scenes (emo, hipster, etc.), and some from girls of minority groups. Years after I am starting to see some results with the kind of girls OP desires.
Reading this thread I have seen some good advice given to OP but I can't believe people are being naive and comparing these women to just any other women. To see their value, just look up any pro escort. The ones who fit the blonde bombshell image charge more than all of the other kind of women. My ex who is German (natural blonde) says she cannot believe how much attention she gets here in America compared to Germany.
Point being, the blonde bombshells you are chasing after know their market value. They know what kind of guys they can have. Famous athletes, famous actors, musicians, and men with power. What you are seeing is guys who have maxed out what they have getting with these women and this goes for almost every group.
I have seen what guys who experience success with Blonde bombshells are like and it is indeed different than going after a beautiful Latina or a cute hipster girl at a cafe. These women are generally more shallow, image focused, and picky.
Did some work and looked into guys of your background that might have had success with these women, Naveen Andrews (from LOST) came up. Here he is kissing such a woman and it isn't some shoot for a movie:
This is Manish Dayal from 90210, I remembered him from a few episodes and have seen his pics around a lot.
He does seem to show up in a lot of pics with this girl, they aren't dating but I wouldn't doubt he has been with girls like her
There are men of your background doing well with the kind of women you are going after. I won't deny that being your ethnicity (or any minority group) makes things harder but it doesn't make them impossible.
For these kinds of women you are going to have to take another angle. Instead of running the same daygame you would run, invest in other things.
1. Get a better physique, single digit bodyfat and high muscle tone. It will take time but this should be your main focus.
2. Find your passion in life and become good at it.
3. Change locations because if you are some backwards area then these girls are not going to consider you an option.
4. Find ways into their social circles, I don't find cold approaching working too much on them since these girls have horny dudes hitting on them all the time.
This will take time and results will be slow but that is the price you have to pay. Till then if you love blondes so much you can game European girls who are more receptive, go for ones who are more lower class (trailer parks, urban areas, etc.), or maybe consider seeing a pro.
Reading this thread I have seen some good advice given to OP but I can't believe people are being naive and comparing these women to just any other women. To see their value, just look up any pro escort. The ones who fit the blonde bombshell image charge more than all of the other kind of women. My ex who is German (natural blonde) says she cannot believe how much attention she gets here in America compared to Germany.
Point being, the blonde bombshells you are chasing after know their market value. They know what kind of guys they can have. Famous athletes, famous actors, musicians, and men with power. What you are seeing is guys who have maxed out what they have getting with these women and this goes for almost every group.
I have seen what guys who experience success with Blonde bombshells are like and it is indeed different than going after a beautiful Latina or a cute hipster girl at a cafe. These women are generally more shallow, image focused, and picky.
Did some work and looked into guys of your background that might have had success with these women, Naveen Andrews (from LOST) came up. Here he is kissing such a woman and it isn't some shoot for a movie:
This is Manish Dayal from 90210, I remembered him from a few episodes and have seen his pics around a lot.
He does seem to show up in a lot of pics with this girl, they aren't dating but I wouldn't doubt he has been with girls like her
There are men of your background doing well with the kind of women you are going after. I won't deny that being your ethnicity (or any minority group) makes things harder but it doesn't make them impossible.
For these kinds of women you are going to have to take another angle. Instead of running the same daygame you would run, invest in other things.
1. Get a better physique, single digit bodyfat and high muscle tone. It will take time but this should be your main focus.
2. Find your passion in life and become good at it.
3. Change locations because if you are some backwards area then these girls are not going to consider you an option.
4. Find ways into their social circles, I don't find cold approaching working too much on them since these girls have horny dudes hitting on them all the time.
This will take time and results will be slow but that is the price you have to pay. Till then if you love blondes so much you can game European girls who are more receptive, go for ones who are more lower class (trailer parks, urban areas, etc.), or maybe consider seeing a pro.
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Yeah I agree with the post above.
I have one particular Indian friend. He OBSESSES over these girls. But the thing is... these girls are in demand by ALL men. Not of any particular race, creed, reigion or anything else but for some reason I've seen a lot of Asian guys become super obsessed about it, like it's some holy grail.
But it's no different for other guys. I LOVE girls like that, but even as a white blonde male myself, it's not easy by any means to get these women.
But the point I'm getting at is that the guys who DO obsess about it, at least from my experiences with them, generally need work on themselves in other areas. Even with women they consider "easier" to get than these bombshells, they are still not good at getting them, but take the mentality that they don't want them anyway, they want the bombshell.
Problem is, they haven't put in any work to get good at getting the 6, 7, 8, 9's before they can get the 10's they want.
They are looking in all the wrong areas.
I acknowledge that race and skin color, religion, ethnicity... they are all things which can cause some men and women difficulties in life, even in 2014. But you have to get over using it as a reason at times that it really isn't the reason.
Half of it stems from just putting themselves on a pedastil. I hate that phrase but in this case it's largely true.
Speaking of my friend I mentioned at the start of this post. He's a really good guy, but does come across as someone who's insecure and trying to over-compensate a little. We don't mind as his friend, but women obviously do. It's not because of his skin color that he has trouble with these girls. It's because compared to the average American guy, he lacks the edge and fundamentals taught on this site. He tries to compensate by splashing cash and talking himself up but most people can see through it.
I have one particular Indian friend. He OBSESSES over these girls. But the thing is... these girls are in demand by ALL men. Not of any particular race, creed, reigion or anything else but for some reason I've seen a lot of Asian guys become super obsessed about it, like it's some holy grail.
But it's no different for other guys. I LOVE girls like that, but even as a white blonde male myself, it's not easy by any means to get these women.
But the point I'm getting at is that the guys who DO obsess about it, at least from my experiences with them, generally need work on themselves in other areas. Even with women they consider "easier" to get than these bombshells, they are still not good at getting them, but take the mentality that they don't want them anyway, they want the bombshell.
Problem is, they haven't put in any work to get good at getting the 6, 7, 8, 9's before they can get the 10's they want.
They are looking in all the wrong areas.
I acknowledge that race and skin color, religion, ethnicity... they are all things which can cause some men and women difficulties in life, even in 2014. But you have to get over using it as a reason at times that it really isn't the reason.
Half of it stems from just putting themselves on a pedastil. I hate that phrase but in this case it's largely true.
Speaking of my friend I mentioned at the start of this post. He's a really good guy, but does come across as someone who's insecure and trying to over-compensate a little. We don't mind as his friend, but women obviously do. It's not because of his skin color that he has trouble with these girls. It's because compared to the average American guy, he lacks the edge and fundamentals taught on this site. He tries to compensate by splashing cash and talking himself up but most people can see through it.
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I agree with the point Proactivity and Estate are getting at. The kind of women you are chasing after are the ones all guys of all races and backgrounds want whether they want to accept it or deny it. Even the guys that vehemently oppose the idea of being with a woman like that secretly want a woman like that. The other truth is that most of the times these women are going after top tier men. Think of it like high school where the cheerleader goes with the Quarterback and not the nerd studying to get into a good college. In society, I have usually seen Blonde Bombshells with top tier men of their own race. The White guys you see dating these women aren't Kevin James or Steve Carrell types, they are more Tom Brady and David Beckham types. You also see these girls with average looking White guys that have a lot of status and money. The minorities I have seen with these women (and not just Black men, I have seen it more with Latino men TBH) are usually top tier, not just any average guy from their background.
I am the same background as the OP and in a relationship with a girl who fits into that category, she is in a sorority too. The amount of attention she gets is unreal compared to other girls I have dated. Guys would buy her drinks even though they know I am her boyfriend. She has shown me her cellphone and the amount of texts it gets flooded with on the regular.
I consider myself a natural. In high school I played football, I can relate to people easily, I am not shy around girls, and I have spent a lot of time in the game. The looks I have help too as I have more of the Mediterranean appearance. When I have used Tinder out of fun I have managed to get over 100 matches in less than 24 hours. Women of minority backgrounds (latina, black, asian, brown, etc.) have approached me and gone out of their way to flirt with me. I have had girls who were White hint at and sometimes even tell me I am good looking. Could have had any of these girls as my girlfriend without even trying because of my looks alone but instead decided to go for my girlfriend I have now who I had to show my good qualities to.
Something I do want to bring up. Once you start dating these women as a minority, expect to face animosity. I have faced jealousy from men of other minority groups and anger from women of minority groups. You might occasionally get some hate from White guys as well, it is not something people see daily. Society will definitely start to criticize you and her for being together so grow a thick skin.
For a beginner or AFC, I wouldn't say ignore these girls and lose hope but don't expect too much. If you really like women with a lighter hair color then go for the average looking ones, ones from more working class backgrounds, foreign ones (Russian and Eastern European), or more of the Western European ones who are a lot less picky. The All American girl from the upper middle class neighborhood you speak of has far too many options and will be significantly harder because American society puts girls like her on the pedestal.
Get comfortable around these women by just talking to more of them. Don't go after the sorority types with high standards, talk to all kinds even the plain jane looking ones. Just get to know them and don't run any PUA or game on them, just talk to them. Once you get comfortable with more and more women who happen to be blondes you will not feel the same nervousness around the blonde bombshells.
At the same time, work on yourself. As others have said, get a good body (this will take time), be more fashionable, and work on making a career for yourself rather than wasting time away partying.
I am the same background as the OP and in a relationship with a girl who fits into that category, she is in a sorority too. The amount of attention she gets is unreal compared to other girls I have dated. Guys would buy her drinks even though they know I am her boyfriend. She has shown me her cellphone and the amount of texts it gets flooded with on the regular.
I consider myself a natural. In high school I played football, I can relate to people easily, I am not shy around girls, and I have spent a lot of time in the game. The looks I have help too as I have more of the Mediterranean appearance. When I have used Tinder out of fun I have managed to get over 100 matches in less than 24 hours. Women of minority backgrounds (latina, black, asian, brown, etc.) have approached me and gone out of their way to flirt with me. I have had girls who were White hint at and sometimes even tell me I am good looking. Could have had any of these girls as my girlfriend without even trying because of my looks alone but instead decided to go for my girlfriend I have now who I had to show my good qualities to.
Something I do want to bring up. Once you start dating these women as a minority, expect to face animosity. I have faced jealousy from men of other minority groups and anger from women of minority groups. You might occasionally get some hate from White guys as well, it is not something people see daily. Society will definitely start to criticize you and her for being together so grow a thick skin.
For a beginner or AFC, I wouldn't say ignore these girls and lose hope but don't expect too much. If you really like women with a lighter hair color then go for the average looking ones, ones from more working class backgrounds, foreign ones (Russian and Eastern European), or more of the Western European ones who are a lot less picky. The All American girl from the upper middle class neighborhood you speak of has far too many options and will be significantly harder because American society puts girls like her on the pedestal.
Get comfortable around these women by just talking to more of them. Don't go after the sorority types with high standards, talk to all kinds even the plain jane looking ones. Just get to know them and don't run any PUA or game on them, just talk to them. Once you get comfortable with more and more women who happen to be blondes you will not feel the same nervousness around the blonde bombshells.
At the same time, work on yourself. As others have said, get a good body (this will take time), be more fashionable, and work on making a career for yourself rather than wasting time away partying.
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Didn't want to quote the entire thing but majority of this post is false. I have always found these limiting beliefs about race to be nonsense and they usually come from guys who wouldn't be getting laid even if they were a part of a race seen as desirable. Women like Brad Pitt, this does not mean they will go with an average looking White guy. Women might love Jamie Foxx but that doesn't mean they will go with any Black guy. Most guys no matter what race won't be getting the blonde bombshells OP speaks of, majority of the white guys have it hard with them as is. That and women say all kinds of things based on emotions that they rarely mean. When you say Brown the first thing that pops into their head is a guy in a turban with a funny accent, the second you break away and become an American with a foreign appearance you are no longer that guy. Now your exotic appearance actually helps you.
I have found that I could date White girls that a lot of my Black friends couldn't. The main reason I think is because of the fact that there is nothing taboo about a White woman dating a Latino, Asian, or Brown male.
All those suburban girls you speak of would not hesitate to get with these guys here, even if they weren't rich or famous.
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Lol that sounded a little bit like it was directed at me buddy.
After I read through the first three paragraphs of you trying to qualify yourself to US as being super successful with women, talking about your glorious conquests on tindr (congrats on those hundred matches bro!), and talking about how you have one of the most valuable girls on campus who are hounded by all other men, and you could have your pick of the litter of all the hot girls on the campus (if you had it this good and have been in the game for a while... why are you still searching for forums like this as you are a brand new user)
you know you are just flip flopping and changing your views all over the place here. You say to expect tons of animosity often when you are a dating a white girl as a minority... right after you try to discredit me because I think that race and the way races are viewed in society are a factor??.... Then you go back to saying that dating white girls as a minority is not a big deal and there is nothing taboo about it at all...
and the pictures you showed and cases you made there are not very applicable. First off i wasn't aware that the guy from harold and kumar is a sex symbol... I haven't heard or seen anything at all from any women Ive ever known even related to that actor being a sex symbol.... ive never heard "Hey you know whos really sexy.... Kal Penn" hell most people don't even know his name. Jay Sean also doesn't really count as he is a famous singer and most normal desi men can't emulate that. Also most people don't know that Jay Sean is a desi because that is not a desi name. Kamaljit Singh Jhooti changed his name to JAY SEAN to culturally fit in and be more acceptable and sexually desirable in american pop culture. Sounds a lot like he was trying to culturally deviate and not fall into the ethnic stereotype, just like I suggested in my earlier post (thanks for supporting my case with this one buddy)
I participate when i feel i have a valid view or bit of insight on the situation. The OP was talking about american, white (through and through) girls. I am and have grown up very white before I went to college in a very ethnically diverse city. I have a lot of experience in white culture and around the type of people that the OP says "might not initially consider him as an option". I figured I would speak from experience honestly, even though the truth can be harsh, ugly, and unfair sometimes
Im not going to continue this argument with you. I have no desire to post 3 paragraphs in retaliation on why Im a sexually desirable male (its not worth my time and doesn't benefit the OP). This is the second time you have posted on the same topic as me and both times you have tried to discredit what I was saying directly, this time trying to say guys like me who have my opinions never get laid even if I was part of a "desirable" race. You know that no other members of this forum do this right? No body tries to discredit other users and say that they are giving bad advice. Everyone just shares what they can and tries to help out with their own input, sometimes an admin shares some valuable advice. Then the OP decides what he wants to take away from it himself. That's how things go around here, welcome aboard.
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Yes I have corrected you before and questioned your view, this is a forum and not your own personal blog. You are more than welcome to start your own personal blog, state your opinion, and decide who can or can't critique it. I did not attack you personally in any of those posts, I attacked your view that my background is less desirable for 3 reasons:
1. You were pushing limiting beliefs on to the OP
2. You made an assumption that OP was some fresh off the boat guy with a heavy accent when he has said he was born and raised here
3. You were passing your personal experience off as the truth ("White girls I was around hated OP's background, they all hate his background")
As for the animosity, that has nothing to do with desirability. Most interracial couples will face animosity, Black men with White women face hate all over the country. I said that OP's exotic background can be shifted into making him more desirable but when he does get there, people will hate the fact some foreign guy is dating a blonde bombshell.
For the point about "most normal desi men", most normal men of whatever race will not be doing amazing with the opposite sex. The point is those guys are Brown, that is their ethnic makeup, something they cannot change, the rest they can change but they will still be brown on the outside (facial features and skin tone). Only a small amount of men (of any race) get lots of action. If OP is trying to chase women that a lot of men dream about, he will have to be different than most men regardless of their race. He will have to be better looking and have good fundamentals not to mention some status can help as well.
We can end the argument here but being that I am actually a man from the same background as OP who has done well with the kind of women he is after I find that I have more credibility on this topic than you. Being that this is a public forum and OP has little knowledge, I find it important to call out nonsense when I see it and your post about American women hating a certain group was just that, nonsense. If you cannot handle criticism then don't bother posting on a public forum.
Yes I have corrected you before and questioned your view, this is a forum and not your own personal blog. You are more than welcome to start your own personal blog, state your opinion, and decide who can or can't critique it. I did not attack you personally in any of those posts, I attacked your view that my background is less desirable for 3 reasons:
1. You were pushing limiting beliefs on to the OP
2. You made an assumption that OP was some fresh off the boat guy with a heavy accent when he has said he was born and raised here
3. You were passing your personal experience off as the truth ("White girls I was around hated OP's background, they all hate his background")
As for the animosity, that has nothing to do with desirability. Most interracial couples will face animosity, Black men with White women face hate all over the country. I said that OP's exotic background can be shifted into making him more desirable but when he does get there, people will hate the fact some foreign guy is dating a blonde bombshell.
For the point about "most normal desi men", most normal men of whatever race will not be doing amazing with the opposite sex. The point is those guys are Brown, that is their ethnic makeup, something they cannot change, the rest they can change but they will still be brown on the outside (facial features and skin tone). Only a small amount of men (of any race) get lots of action. If OP is trying to chase women that a lot of men dream about, he will have to be different than most men regardless of their race. He will have to be better looking and have good fundamentals not to mention some status can help as well.
We can end the argument here but being that I am actually a man from the same background as OP who has done well with the kind of women he is after I find that I have more credibility on this topic than you. Being that this is a public forum and OP has little knowledge, I find it important to call out nonsense when I see it and your post about American women hating a certain group was just that, nonsense. If you cannot handle criticism then don't bother posting on a public forum.
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-B-,
I don't think he was trying to discredit you.
But there's at least *some* validity in his argument if we're talking in general. (I don't know if what your own personal skill level is so I would not want to comment either way on that).
But... he's has a point.
If you're not getting results with "bombshells", the question must be asked, are you getting results with other girls, be they of the same background as you or not? That's very important. Because honestly, I've already said this... physically, I guess I have the appearance that a "bombshell" would go for, in the view of many who make this argument. And don't get me wrong, I love those girls... but they are every bit as hard for ME to get as for ANYONE else to get. There was a time though, that I couldn't pull a 6. Yet I wanted a 10.... but going straight for the 10 was never going to work out.
But some other points can be made. I'm talking about some friends or co-workers I know since I know quite a few who moved from India. I don't want to paint ALL the same since I know another few who are very successful. I'm just speaking from experience of some people I know personally. But those I know who are not so successful with the ladies, tend to be very quiet, shy, reserved, are not the type of approach or make bold statements to women out of respect, etc... even when they DO become a bit more forward in American culture, it just takes a while to get the experience and social saviness go be successful if they are just learning it. My own culture is very much the same. I had to snap out of it and relearn things to be successful here. But I see a lot give up and blame it on the same things as the OP. While I've seen a smaller portion of them come through and be VERY successful because they stuck at it and were willing to become a little more "American" because that's the type of girl they wanted.
Remember some good advice I once read on here... to attract the type of person you want, you have to be the type of person to whom they are attracted.
You can't blame the women for having desires to be with certain types of people, just as you do. And that's no even about phyical traits, it's about the confidence, the conversation skills, being a leader, dominant, and all those other good fundamentals Chase teaches on here.
I feel like I am coming in at the other angle from it. Ironically, being Irish, the MORE I play up my accent, the easier it is to get women because our accent is a win for us. We generally aren't known for stunning good looks or handsome physiques but the accent at least works in our favor.
But then again, while this has worked for ATTRACTING women initially (though I dislike relying on playing up my accent), my upbringing and culture has actually made relationships very difficult in the US. Mainly because once it goes beyond the physical phase, I just generally DO have a different upbringing and views and likes and dislikes to a lot of girls here and they don't see me as a longterms option.
For me this has been a battle that I've come through somewhat. But it has required me to assimilate into American culture a lot more. Just like you say, you don't WANT to be more American but still want to get these American bombshells... well take it from a guy who is closer to what you'd call "their taste", it's no easier for me. To date these girls (and not just hookup with them), it requires being more "American" and being to type of guy they usually date, which was a culture shock for me initially to say the least.
I don't think he was trying to discredit you.
But there's at least *some* validity in his argument if we're talking in general. (I don't know if what your own personal skill level is so I would not want to comment either way on that).
But... he's has a point.
If you're not getting results with "bombshells", the question must be asked, are you getting results with other girls, be they of the same background as you or not? That's very important. Because honestly, I've already said this... physically, I guess I have the appearance that a "bombshell" would go for, in the view of many who make this argument. And don't get me wrong, I love those girls... but they are every bit as hard for ME to get as for ANYONE else to get. There was a time though, that I couldn't pull a 6. Yet I wanted a 10.... but going straight for the 10 was never going to work out.
But some other points can be made. I'm talking about some friends or co-workers I know since I know quite a few who moved from India. I don't want to paint ALL the same since I know another few who are very successful. I'm just speaking from experience of some people I know personally. But those I know who are not so successful with the ladies, tend to be very quiet, shy, reserved, are not the type of approach or make bold statements to women out of respect, etc... even when they DO become a bit more forward in American culture, it just takes a while to get the experience and social saviness go be successful if they are just learning it. My own culture is very much the same. I had to snap out of it and relearn things to be successful here. But I see a lot give up and blame it on the same things as the OP. While I've seen a smaller portion of them come through and be VERY successful because they stuck at it and were willing to become a little more "American" because that's the type of girl they wanted.
Remember some good advice I once read on here... to attract the type of person you want, you have to be the type of person to whom they are attracted.
You can't blame the women for having desires to be with certain types of people, just as you do. And that's no even about phyical traits, it's about the confidence, the conversation skills, being a leader, dominant, and all those other good fundamentals Chase teaches on here.
I feel like I am coming in at the other angle from it. Ironically, being Irish, the MORE I play up my accent, the easier it is to get women because our accent is a win for us. We generally aren't known for stunning good looks or handsome physiques but the accent at least works in our favor.
But then again, while this has worked for ATTRACTING women initially (though I dislike relying on playing up my accent), my upbringing and culture has actually made relationships very difficult in the US. Mainly because once it goes beyond the physical phase, I just generally DO have a different upbringing and views and likes and dislikes to a lot of girls here and they don't see me as a longterms option.
For me this has been a battle that I've come through somewhat. But it has required me to assimilate into American culture a lot more. Just like you say, you don't WANT to be more American but still want to get these American bombshells... well take it from a guy who is closer to what you'd call "their taste", it's no easier for me. To date these girls (and not just hookup with them), it requires being more "American" and being to type of guy they usually date, which was a culture shock for me initially to say the least.
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I want to re-iterate a couple of points here that are really take-aways from all of this. One is something that Estate just mentioned:
So if you are not attracting these types of women, then you simply have NOT become the type of man they are looking for. Period. End of story.
Anything involving things that you CAN'T change about yourself (such as your race or skin color) are not involved in the formula for getting these women, and if you believe it is, then this is not the forum for you. This is a forum where men of ALL ethnicities succeed with women because they do what's necessary to make it work. So if you are going to refute this, you might as well deactivate your account. But for those of you willing to put in the effort and keep trying, we'll keep helping you.
The other thing I'd like to mention is that I get a VERY strong feeling that those of you who might be ONLY approaching blonde hotties have just ALTOGETHER quit approaching girls of other types and having success with them as well. Pre-selection is the STRONGEST TOOL FOR ATTRACTION. I guarantee you that if you are pulling hot Latinas or White brunettes in a given location, then there WILL be blonde girls who will become attracted to you through pre-selection. So either you have stopped approaching other women altogether and are leaving out the strongest tool for attraction, or you are simply lying about your success with other types of attractive women. Again... period. End of story.
I don't want to see any more posts having to do with certain races, nationalities, or skin colors being at a "disadvantage" versus other types. These posts are unhelpful, and they are lacking credibility and truth. I have a "desi" friend myself who does very well with all types of white girls, but part of the reason he does is that he doesn't JUST target ONE type of white girl. He aggressively approaches any girl that is hot. And the ones he DOES succeed with build attraction for OTHER ones that may not have been attracted initially. So, part of my advice would be to stop aggressively approaching one type of girl at any given time. There's no secret to suddenly having success with EVERY single girl of a given type; you will always still be playing a numbers game. Use that game to your advantage and take your "wins" to get even MORE "wins."
Any further posts that elicit limiting beliefs about race or ethnicity are subject to a warning by Chase or myself. After a warning, those members will be subject to being banned.
- Franco
So if you are not attracting these types of women, then you simply have NOT become the type of man they are looking for. Period. End of story.
Anything involving things that you CAN'T change about yourself (such as your race or skin color) are not involved in the formula for getting these women, and if you believe it is, then this is not the forum for you. This is a forum where men of ALL ethnicities succeed with women because they do what's necessary to make it work. So if you are going to refute this, you might as well deactivate your account. But for those of you willing to put in the effort and keep trying, we'll keep helping you.
The other thing I'd like to mention is that I get a VERY strong feeling that those of you who might be ONLY approaching blonde hotties have just ALTOGETHER quit approaching girls of other types and having success with them as well. Pre-selection is the STRONGEST TOOL FOR ATTRACTION. I guarantee you that if you are pulling hot Latinas or White brunettes in a given location, then there WILL be blonde girls who will become attracted to you through pre-selection. So either you have stopped approaching other women altogether and are leaving out the strongest tool for attraction, or you are simply lying about your success with other types of attractive women. Again... period. End of story.
I don't want to see any more posts having to do with certain races, nationalities, or skin colors being at a "disadvantage" versus other types. These posts are unhelpful, and they are lacking credibility and truth. I have a "desi" friend myself who does very well with all types of white girls, but part of the reason he does is that he doesn't JUST target ONE type of white girl. He aggressively approaches any girl that is hot. And the ones he DOES succeed with build attraction for OTHER ones that may not have been attracted initially. So, part of my advice would be to stop aggressively approaching one type of girl at any given time. There's no secret to suddenly having success with EVERY single girl of a given type; you will always still be playing a numbers game. Use that game to your advantage and take your "wins" to get even MORE "wins."
Any further posts that elicit limiting beliefs about race or ethnicity are subject to a warning by Chase or myself. After a warning, those members will be subject to being banned.
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Franco I do understand where you are coming from with your new rule but I want to offer another side to it. As a man of OP's background, I was fortunate to grow up in a household where I could play sports and be social. My upbringing made me into a natural and has made it possible for me to have the success I have had. I have been fortunate enough to have success with different kinds of women. After being around men of my background a lot more, I have found that a large number of them come from strict and sexually repressed households. Majority of them start dating at a later age and constantly have to hear from media and the internet how their background is an issue (this is true for Oriental and Desi men).
When I was in high school (I have talked about this on early threads), I often heard from classmates how I could not get the girls I am getting now because of my background. It wasn't a me being desi thing, it is because some of the people in my high school had the "us vs them" mentality (minority vs white).
Then being in such a relationship myself I have found that there is some animosity towards couples like my girlfriend and I because even in today's world interracial dating is not common everywhere. I would say that me and a White guy would have to take different paths to have the same success but success is possible. That is what the point of threads like this which talk about race should be. No self-pity, no sympathy seeking, and no limiting beliefs but rather experiences which men of that background can share with struggling members who happen to not have the same success.
When I was in high school (I have talked about this on early threads), I often heard from classmates how I could not get the girls I am getting now because of my background. It wasn't a me being desi thing, it is because some of the people in my high school had the "us vs them" mentality (minority vs white).
Then being in such a relationship myself I have found that there is some animosity towards couples like my girlfriend and I because even in today's world interracial dating is not common everywhere. I would say that me and a White guy would have to take different paths to have the same success but success is possible. That is what the point of threads like this which talk about race should be. No self-pity, no sympathy seeking, and no limiting beliefs but rather experiences which men of that background can share with struggling members who happen to not have the same success.
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Ill keep this short but I am in no way a racist or views desi's as “limited” even though some of you are saying that I am. If you guys actually read my posts you would see that they are loaded with sensitivity and respect towards “desi's” and that the fact that I view them (and all races including my own) as equal.
However I am a realist. You have to adapt or OVERCOME your environment and situation to survive and thrive. Its darwinism and thats how everything works, those who DO succeed and thrive and win, those who DO NOT fail and die out. The world and societies we live in our not a completely fair place and there are injustices and unfair garbage we have to deal with. I was mentioning certain unfair views on certain races/cultures in america and how they could possibly affect a situation. But we live in such an ultra politically correct and sensitive society that you can not even seriously point out, reference, or acknowledge the fact that these issues exist and are relevant with out a backlash or being called a racist. Most of society is not comfortable with facing these truths yet and thats okay.
I realized with the last input I have given on how age IS actually a factor and now how social issues in society are a factor too... I have gotten a lot of disagreement and negative feedback. I have realized that most of you do not share my mindset and view on the world and how it affects us. For that reason I am going to stop participating in the forums and this website and continue my journey and growth on my own. There have been a good number of you that have taught me some useful stuff so thank you very much.
I want to leave one last note,
I mentioned how Oh Pry could ADAPT reactivly if he chose to (which is the easier, more effiecient, but less heroic route. Like JAY SEAN changing his name instead of trying to fight the grain of the music industry and pop culture) to these conditions, or OVERCOME and power through them being completely proud of himself and not changing, hence
This is the option I believed in more strongly which is why I saved it for the conclusion of the post.
However I am a realist. You have to adapt or OVERCOME your environment and situation to survive and thrive. Its darwinism and thats how everything works, those who DO succeed and thrive and win, those who DO NOT fail and die out. The world and societies we live in our not a completely fair place and there are injustices and unfair garbage we have to deal with. I was mentioning certain unfair views on certain races/cultures in america and how they could possibly affect a situation. But we live in such an ultra politically correct and sensitive society that you can not even seriously point out, reference, or acknowledge the fact that these issues exist and are relevant with out a backlash or being called a racist. Most of society is not comfortable with facing these truths yet and thats okay.
I realized with the last input I have given on how age IS actually a factor and now how social issues in society are a factor too... I have gotten a lot of disagreement and negative feedback. I have realized that most of you do not share my mindset and view on the world and how it affects us. For that reason I am going to stop participating in the forums and this website and continue my journey and growth on my own. There have been a good number of you that have taught me some useful stuff so thank you very much.
I want to leave one last note,
I mentioned how Oh Pry could ADAPT reactivly if he chose to (which is the easier, more effiecient, but less heroic route. Like JAY SEAN changing his name instead of trying to fight the grain of the music industry and pop culture) to these conditions, or OVERCOME and power through them being completely proud of himself and not changing, hence
This is the option I believed in more strongly which is why I saved it for the conclusion of the post.
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I understand your guys' points of view. All I want to remove is this negativity of "we can't do this because of X" or "we can't get these girls because of Y." We don't waste time on this forum trying to convince THOSE people otherwise. I can already guarantee you that there is someone out there who has done it, and there is probably someone out there who is doing it as I type this.
My post wasn't directed at -B- or Kenshin or anyone in particular. There is more than one person on this board who has been guilty of having a "it's not possible" attitude, and we understand that maybe it feels that way when you first start (because it feels the same way to EVERYONE when they first start), but instead of trying to find other people to "agree" with your mindset, you should be out there figuring out what aspects of you still need to be changed to get what it is that you want to get. And pretty much all of those aspects have been COVERED in the articles on this website in one form or another (including social circle game and social proof), so you need to try out all of the tools before you make any assumptions about what can and can't be done.
The last resort option is to change locations. I already mentioned this before, and it doesn't hurt to mention it again. If you feel like your location is suffocating you in one way or another (whether that's because of the type of people you are around, the type of friends you've made, the type of girls that live there, the number of girls that live there, or whatever), then you need to start looking to move to a new location to get what you want. In Southern California, I have seen every ethnicity have success with every other type of ethnicity, so any argument you think you have about certain "hot" girls not wanting another type of guy is not valid. I'm sure Southern California isn't the only place that is like this.
The answers have been laid out in these posts multiple times. These arguments have only been going on for a couple of months now, so I highly doubt that those involved have actually tried all of the advice that has been given, especially the advice about moving to a new area. So please make an effort to try everything that is suggested before making posts saying that it can't be done.
- Franco
My post wasn't directed at -B- or Kenshin or anyone in particular. There is more than one person on this board who has been guilty of having a "it's not possible" attitude, and we understand that maybe it feels that way when you first start (because it feels the same way to EVERYONE when they first start), but instead of trying to find other people to "agree" with your mindset, you should be out there figuring out what aspects of you still need to be changed to get what it is that you want to get. And pretty much all of those aspects have been COVERED in the articles on this website in one form or another (including social circle game and social proof), so you need to try out all of the tools before you make any assumptions about what can and can't be done.
The last resort option is to change locations. I already mentioned this before, and it doesn't hurt to mention it again. If you feel like your location is suffocating you in one way or another (whether that's because of the type of people you are around, the type of friends you've made, the type of girls that live there, the number of girls that live there, or whatever), then you need to start looking to move to a new location to get what you want. In Southern California, I have seen every ethnicity have success with every other type of ethnicity, so any argument you think you have about certain "hot" girls not wanting another type of guy is not valid. I'm sure Southern California isn't the only place that is like this.
The answers have been laid out in these posts multiple times. These arguments have only been going on for a couple of months now, so I highly doubt that those involved have actually tried all of the advice that has been given, especially the advice about moving to a new area. So please make an effort to try everything that is suggested before making posts saying that it can't be done.
- Franco