Are People That Dumb, Or We Didn't Build Them?

[trashKENNUT]

Hello everyone.

I was commenting on a post on a social media and that there is two responses

-one attacking me that I don't believe in science
-one attacking me by using my sentence

As you can see, one is battling on his mental state, where he thinks. The other is battling for attention from a perceived audience. Because the Audience is GAWD, even though the audience, at the time doesn't exist.

I think that Chase already caught on, on this phenomenon.

This phenomenon is where you need to address where ppl are, before going to something else. As example I can talk to Teevster on club Dynamics. Just like that, he understands.

But to many, it's like talking to an infant.

And this applies to even the most simple of things, that used to be our common values. (Ben Shapiro noted this problem)

This is how I feel with a lot of people. While it's good that I need to market better per se, it makes me wonder. This is also the reason why the rich gets richer, the poor gets poorer?

Also, there's levels of expert. Chase is that fucking mansion, while Teevster, Franco, so on is that big bungalow house, and then there's us who are kinda there but not there with our semi detached houses.

That's how I see it. It's analogies.

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[Chase]

@ZacAdam,

Most people don't want to discuss or debate.

They just want consensus.

They want there to be a universal agreed-upon reality, and it should match everything they already believe to be true.

As such, they will respond angrily to ideas they differ with, using various forms of (non-debate) criticism.

In your case, it looks like appeal to authority from the first guy and ad hominem from the second guy.

(science is the weirdest one to be used as an appeal to authority by these SCIENCE! people, I will tell you. There's nothing sadder to me than hearing someone say "You don't believe in science!" because treating science as a belief system = science no longer being science... it's the slow death of science. Personal gripe I have with those people... 'science' zealots who couldn't tell you the steps of the scientific method without looking it up on Google first)

That said, you are a deliberately provocative guy.

So, you shouldn't be a stranger to getting people's hackles up

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

That said, you are a deliberately provocative guy.

I need to protect my reputation here. Lolx.

I didn't attack the person, actually. I was making a statement. But I am making headways where people are kinda listening to me. So, yea. There's element of trying to get attention.

Also, I get this from people often when I'm in a subordinate position, a place where I'm not the boss. But you coming from a good place. Always have.

Personally, I'm a number 2 or 6 guy in a company. (E MYTH analogy)

I am just very noisy. Certain things.

And most bosses don't like it. I guess that's why I need to be a CEO in my own company? Learning advertising and marketing recently just makes me more 'Orange'.

TLDR. I'm very tribal when it comes to efficiency, and who we used to be but I really don't cheer for laundry

I'm not sure if efficiency is the right word. Team may be it but I'm not sure.


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[Chase]

I didn't attack the person, actually. I was making a statement.

Didn't think you were!

Statements can be provocative. Especially ones where you try to explain something in a way that chafes with what other people believe... or want to believe.

You like to point out emperors that aren't wearing clothes.

But the thing with emperors not having clothes on is that it isn't just the emperors who are in on the illusion. The commoners are too. And due to commitment consistency, the more people have committed themselves to a certain way of seeing things, the more vehemently they will typically fight to defend it. If it gets overturned it exposes them as either fools or charlatans... and we can't have that.

And most bosses don't like it. I guess that's why I need to be a CEO in my own company? Learning advertising and marketing recently just makes me more 'Orange'.

Yes, probably.

I had bosses who absolutely loved me, and bosses who really did not.

If you can't get in a consistent "the boss loves me" situation... or maybe even if you can... running your own thing will typically be ideal.

Assuming you can at least get your customers to love you, that is

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

Statements can be provocative. Especially ones where you try to explain something in a way that chafes with what other people believe... or want to believe.

Yea man. It does lingers in the back of my mind.

Assuming you can at least get your customers to love you, that is

I always avoid pictures with them if possible. Haha

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[Starboy]

I have a reputation at my job of "always having something to say" if I explain myself too much. Mind you people think i'm quite. That's how I come off because I don't feel like talking to people that much. But if someone either tells me something that I don't believe in or agree with I will say so. It's gotten to the point where people think I disagree just to disagree or to piss people off.

One girl said I always have an explanation for everything after I explained why I wasn't cold easlier, didn't put on my sweater earlier,but I put it on later .
This other girl thinks and tells me a lot of dumb shit constantly like "growing up with a bigger sister will make you a better man" or "you should get on tinder my friend is a girl she looks for guys and girls she gets a lot of matches", or me not wanting my girlfriend to have an onlyfans makes me "posessive" because other guys are "ok" with their girlfriends having onlyfans and loads of other brain dead statements. I believe in nuances in everything because duh I read this site. I rarely say yes or no to questions and I will go into detail on it or specifics and that annoys her. She and I are always arguing and she get irritated by what I say ,but she likes arguing and she even said so.

This dyke that I tried talking too about basketball is always exagerrating or misrepresenting facts about players .She thought HIV positive Magic Johnson donated blood based on an old video . She believes sports are rigged and everything is predetermined and I couldn't even come up with an argument against her belief because she will immediately get upset and raise her voice so I just said we can believe what we want cuz some people just aren't worth discussing things with.

I shouldn't be too suprised because I work at a retail job where most people are not that bright,empathethic towards other,somewhat sensitive and unaware of their own behaviors. But yeah people just want you to agree with whatever they say and stfu. Pretty sad honestly

 

[trashKENNUT]

@Starboy

It's gotten to the point where people think I disagree just to disagree or to piss people off.

Yea man. That feeling.

This other girl thinks and tells me a lot of dumb shit constantly like "growing up with a bigger sister will make you a better man"

She has no interest in you. And you making headway is no no to Women. Female Solipsism. Only her world view, matters.

Also because she wants to assert control. When women and men are on the same level of hierarchy, this nonsense appears often.

i like to hear more about this girls. I think I can help you more with nuances because I used to work in retail a lot.

And I really believe you can help many people. Because retail itself is a whole topic by itself, whether you work in it or approach there.

Bitches crazy. Bitches also thirsty. Many kinds.

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[Starboy]

Lol that girl was my friend. I'm not interested in her or even attracted to her. What do you mean by help? Help whom?

 

[trashKENNUT]

What do you mean by help? Help whom?

You can help many Girlschase members by writing about how girls behave in retail.



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[Starboy]

You can help many Girlschase members by writing about how girls behave in retail.



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Haha. My game sucks. So I would be one of the worst to give advice on how to get girls from here.
All I can say is imo girls from retail apart from their looks don't have much else to make them high quality. Also I find most of them kind of dumb. I would still smash tho.

 

[trashKENNUT]

All I can say is imo girls from retail apart from their looks don't have much else to make them high quality

I saw your real message. Why delete it?

It's highly accurate They go out drinking, party. More of like finding something that they can forget about their job.

This nuances is miniscule to many but it's highly important to me, guys who are experienced.

That's how I think.

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[Starboy]

I saw your real message. Why delete it?

It's highly accurate They go out drinking, party. More of like finding something that they can forget about their job.

This nuances is miniscule to many but it's highly important to me, guys who are experienced.

That's how I think.

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I edited it and lost whatever I had originally haha. I couldn't remember what I had wrote so I thought let me just dumb down what I said.

 

[trashKENNUT]

@Starboy You sure know your stuff, man.

Keep posting from time to time. I'm sure many guys will be able to get some help from you.

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