"Are You A Pickup Artist?" Objection

[foggy]

I was running some street game today in the subway station. I was about to pre-open a stationary girl (she had not noticed me yet) but then she randomly started walking. Instead of pre-opening I skipped straight to opening her. I got her engaged quite quickly, and she was being friendly, although the distance between us was in the "polite zone" initially. Then she throws this out at me as I'm working on closing the distance between us:

Girl: Are you a pickup artist?

I was taken aback. Was she asking because my approach was slightly uncalibrated? Or was she basically wondering if I talk to girls all the time (an objection Chase talks about at the very bottom of this article) because she was affected by me?

Have any of you gotten this particular objection before?

 

[trashKENNUT]

songbird,

Have any of you gotten this particular objection before?

I don't bother with this type of bitches. *society melting. Well if you want gender equality, got to handle the trash!*

So yeap... frame battles. Of course in my earlier days, i try to win over but you don't always win. Let's just say you gauge it and also realize that it is a way of rejecting you.

And if she maybe likes you, you can go out, fuck her and don't call her back. *society melting*.

Okay i was in bitch mode. Apparently in today's society, you have to be cunt/passive aggressive, you know. (pain body)

My answer: Just regard it as a polite rejection.

Zac

 

[Fuck This]

That's a sign you are being TOO gamey. Might tone it down.

Or I'd reply back "What would make you say that?" with an amused smile.

"You never have had a confident guy want to get to know you better?"

"

 

[trashKENNUT]

sb,

Here's how to break it down as well. How to gauge

1)Your Fundamentals or (how you look that day,

if your fundamentals is high but you dress like shit, for reasons like work: many women can't handle it. Think of it like as Russia nuke CNN or Mecca and society suffering cognitive dissonance.

2)HEr interest vs Your Interest
3)Passive screen for tribe/environment (see if there's a guy she likes, etc)

and lastly, your skills. Too gamey or too passive.

Zac

 

[foggy]

That's a sign you are being TOO gamey. Might tone it down.

and lastly, your skills. Too gamey or too passive.

yooo my dudes thanks for your advice

can you both clarify what you mean when you say "too gamey?"

tonight i had another chick wonder out loud if i was a pickup artist, and if there was a hidden camera somewhere. this was like 20 seconds into opening and she was super engaged with me and was giving me doggy eyes.

its honestly driving me bonkers. it happens all the time...where i go into a set with flaming hot social momentum, open super strong...and the result is that the girl(s) will be seemingly engrossed by what I'm saying instantly and start giving me doggy eyes...but then they just leave randomly after a minute or two in...like WHAT THE HECK we were just getting started!!

i think i might be pumping their emotions too hard initially....this is probably what you guys mean by "gamey."

 

[trashKENNUT]

sbf,

can you both clarify what you mean when you say "too gamey?"

Can be hard to distinguish but

- how you approach her? How is the movement to be specific?
- how is your vibe? how is your vibe? what's the general vibe when you approach girls?
- what do girls do at that time?
- what are the words communciated?

If all variables are too far, there's a problem. You should probably detect the problem by all this things i listed.

Zac