I think will and stray do more day game...
Yeah, I cut my teeth on both but have always leaned toward day game. Had some great success at night game but usually in more low key venues, like dive bars and brewery's. Where I can run a more verbal based game. There was one dive back in the last city lived I had incredibly dialed in. I even wrote a little guide book for my homies just on that venue alone. Tiny little hole in the wall. Kick back on a bar stool and just let the magic happen.
Bigger louder clubs have always been more of a challenge for me, as a good portion of my game is verbal. Also when my capacity for the high energy runs out I tend to lose my will for it. I'd rather go home and play my guitar, write, read. That sort of stuff. And these days my sleep is priority. I have trouble pushing past midnight.
This speaks to the patience thing that
@Teevster brought up. The thing with night game is you have to be in it to win it, and that often means being in it for the long haul.
I also rely way more on state during night game than I do day game. During day game I can be half dead and still rock it. But night game, once my state drops I really have trouble hooking. Like, really have trouble. Conversations start being like 15 second to 1 minute interactions and that it. It's like my whole vibe is off for the high stimulation environment. I know
@Teevster always mentions you don't need state if you are making the right moves, but I just cant seem to hook when I'm low energy.
Having a wing could help though. Part of the reason I lose steam is that there are certain low points in the night where I just want to kick back and regroup. Venues don't always have a good spot where you can kick it by yourself and not look like THAT loner dude (some do but not all) so there is this pressure to keep generating leads or bounce to maintain a certain frame in the room. If you have a wing much easier to keep your head in the game, push through the down turns, and stick it through till pull o'clock.
When the night is young and my energy is up I am all about it. I love the people, the energy of things, the conversations. I am often the most charming dude in the joint. But once my energy drops I just get tired of all the half conversations that happen in search of the stronger connections.
Super tricky to pull early too. Happens every now and then, but you can't count on it as much. So often times I will encounter situations like this thread where its early eve and I just want to make the pull then, fuck and be asleep by 1 at the latest. So I lose my patience for it. Which is really not the attitude required to succeed at night game.
The other option of course is to save all of my social energy up and only make an appearance 1-2 hours prior to pull-o'clock. That way I am not burned out when it is time to pull. This is usually when I have more success. But again, have to really be feeling the sacrifice on my sleep.
Any way more just writing this to get it out my head, cause that is precisely what happened tonight. I went out, had some good set opens worked the room a bit at a couple venues next door to eachother. Then got tired just hanging mostly by myself having convos that only went so far. Tired of looking like that solo dude, or having to find a decent place to be so as not to look like that one dude. So I bounced.
Maybe if I had stuck with some of the sets I opened a bit longer. Really had some substantial interactions that would have been different. There was one set that I probably could have pushed harder to maintain. So that's definitely on me.
But if y'all have any thoughts, always happy to hear em
Also, just moved to this new city for work and have yet to find a venue that has a solid floor layout for pick up. All the venues here are weirdly designed, where everyone is just standing around not really knowing where to be. What would you say makes a great layout for best results in a venue?
