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Defeat Alpha Men and Take Their Women: MY BEST POST YET
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I've noticed that a recurring pattern on this forum is that the most of the "newbie" problems stem from the fact that internally they're pure PUSSY. Even many guys that do have solid game will crumble and freeze up when an asshole like me comes along and shits on their reality. Being TOUGH is an extremely underrate trait in modern, western society. Academic institutions, business envrionments, law, popular religions all reniforce the idea of "peace", being non-confrontational, being "positive" and "happy" over doing the right thing and conducting yourself with honor.
Long forgotten are concepts like HONOR, CHARECTER, TOUGHNESS, RESILIENCE, HEROISM, MAGNIFICENCE, MAGANANIMITY, WISDOM. They've been replaced with what I call a cow-morality or sheep mentality which places meekness as the highest virtue and subjigates you to a pussy-beta existence where you stay comfortably numb your whole life and die ingloriously banished to Hel to spend eternity with all of history's cowards that ate shit their entire lives. I say FUCK THAT. Do what you want and make yourself STRONG. The GLORY is to be WON.
Personal Background
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Since I've been young, I've always had a fascinating with war. I grew up in inner-city Chicago where people weren't very forgiving and getting beat up or robbed was a routine occurrence. Being a "gangster" was the coolest thing to do, but luckily I'm White so I didn't have to deal with any of that nonesense. In high school I made friends with the biggest assholes in my school; they'd kick my ass. I wouldn't trade my past because I know if I grew up in the suburbs like a lot of the kids I went to college with, my view of the world would be a lot rosier and I'd be a huge PUSSY.
My advice: GET TOUGHER. The real world is a cold place. People living in the comfortable bubble called suburbia USA can't even begin to comprehend what brutality or true struggle is.
If you want to see what real shit looks I recommend watching Liberia: An Uncivil War. You'll see 12 year olds bashing each other's skulls in and how fragile and worthless life really is.
It's on youtube: http://youtu.be/Ok6VXtAmw-U
Hopefully this will get you to see that the problems you deal with are so insignificant, the only way I can charecterize them are PURE PUSSY.
Things You Can Do in Life to Harden Your Spirit
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Play competetive sports: ideally it should be a sport where some element of physicality is involved, but all forms of games will make you stronger. Competetive sports teach you how what it takes to win. Sports teach you that in real life, not everyone wins and there are many losers. It's the battle of the wills. Do you have more drive than your opponent to do what is necessary to finish the game, or will you give up and cower away? Sports also teach you that with practice, you can get better. You can increase your level of skill and be stronger. You also get over your ego, becuase you relize the tremendous amount of dsicipline, energy, work that it takes to consistently win. If you're not playing a competive sport in your life, you're doing yourself a tremendous disservice.
EVASIVE TACTICS: Learn how to fight or run very fast. This is just a basic life skill that's extremely practical. It's life or death in many cities. If you ever get into a situation where you're likely to get preyed upon, it's important to know how punch/shove and DASH. It's much smarter to EVADE your opponent then try to be completely unprepared and get pounced on. You don't want to be caught in a situation where someone can pull a knife on you, trap you, and kill you. Violence is often random: so don't end up a statistic.
For me, it's also important to know how you DISENGAGE my opponent. If some guy tries to step up to me or get aggressive in a night-time situation, I like to have the ability to beat his ass and submit him. This is what martial arts is for. Personally I've trained boxing and brazilian jui-jitsu.
Generally it's better to AVOID and EVADE conflicts. I know many guys that carry knives into bars; I also know people that have used them. You don't want to get stabbed because you tried to prove that you're "tough".
Learn how to Verbally Spar. Do this with your friends. Learn how to talk over people, learn how to be LOUDER. Crack jokes at people and make fun of situations where people are trying to play on your insecurities.
SPEAK UP and CHALLENGE
Just because someone claims authority or command, doesn't mean it's based on anything. In a free society, you are your own authority, and you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. Don't relinquish your will just because everyone else is doing it. If someone demands compliance from you, find out on what authority or grounds that authority is. Just because someone has "police" or "security" on their shirt doesn't give them any legal power over you.
Be brutally honest when necessary. Don't allow your peer group to guilt you into doing something that you know is wrong. This is the difference between man and sheep.
Defeat other Guys Logically - Use your Brain to Get Women
Build your own system of logic. The true value of knowledge is how it helps you understand reality and how it guides your behavior. You should be able to verbalize in clear, rational, and logical terms your values and the way you see reality. You should know basic things like how your governement is structured, who has authority over you (no one), how electricity works, what not to eat so you get poisoned and die, why you believe what you beleive, etc. In the long run, dumbasses lose. Being a retard is not virtuous.
Understand the law. If you know the law and you know the ins and outs of how it's practiced, you have great power. Understand very clearly where the line is for your behavior and what others are legally allowed to do and say to you. This will prevent many headaches, make you very wealthy, and keep you out of prison.
Play through every scenario in your mind. Know ahead of time (from experience and what others have told you their experience has been) what to expect. Be ready for anything. Make preperations for times of emergency or extreme hardship.
Define the worst-case scenerio and realize that if it happens, it's really not a big deal and that you'll recover from it. Worst-case scenarios don't really happen anyway.
Step into your fear. Live your life on edge. When you feel the tense emotion in your stomach, that's an indicator that you need to step up and TAKE ACTION. Be aware of how things make you feel.
Step up to guys you're afraid of. Be able to look a guy dead in the eye and not flinch. Almost always, he will get nervous, it's just a natural response. You'll win and get lady.
Push the limits of what's possible. Do crazy things and learn from the outcome. Get kicked out of places. If you've never been kicked out of a bar, you're not going hard enough. I've been kicked out of places so many times, I've lost count. You can always come back next week
Go to scary neighborhoods. Walk through the ghetto at night and realize that it's not really that scary. If you do anything with enough confidence, people will accecpt it. If you're marred by fear, you'll get fucked with.
Fraternize with people you're terrified of. Talk to bums, criminals, thugs. Talk to people that you have never talked to before in your life. Realize that they're human and they're just like you. There was nothing to be afraid of.
Get your ass kicked. Get humiliated. Once you've taken a beating a few times, you're not afraid getting into fights anymore. When you've repeatedly humiliated yourself, you lose all sense of shame and are able to cross boundaries of what's real and what's possible.
Never Accept Beta Positions
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Never be a bitch. Throughout my youth, I've learned that many people want to suck you in and make your their bitch. They want to guilt you, make you feel less, make you do things that aren't in your own best interest. Some of these people you might call your "boss", your "teacher", even your "mom". They're not necessarily concious of what they're doing, but if you show submission you will be their and have to comply to their every whim. This will affect your subcioncious in all areas of life and a woman will be able to tell that you're not truely a man.
In school, remember that your teacher is just that. Your teacher can't tell you what to do or tell you what to believe in. Remember that the true reason you're in school isn't to get a piece of paper of a "job" but to LEARN! This what modern society has forgotten. Many times the people that are assigned the role of being your "teacher" have ZERO clue as to what they're talking about. Challenge them and call the out on their shit. If a teacher is telling you something that is blatently wrong or goes against what you believe in CALL THEM OUT ON THEIR SHIT. Don't be like 99.5% of students that just sit passively sit there and absorb nonsense. That's called being a zombie. True academia has debate and discussion.
Sometimes you have to sacrifice part of your grade because your instructor has a big ego and can't speak rationally or explain why they're qualifed to stand in front of the class. Personally, I've made that sacrifice many times, without regret.
It also takes as lot of courage and nerves of steel to speak out in say a lecture hall of 300 people. I've done it many times amd you can to. You might feel embarassed or judged, but this is what will strengthen you and you make you the shit when you call others out in bar/club situations.
Here's a video of a Marine speaking out against 30+ NYPD cops overstepping their authority. This is what true balls look like. While watching this video, remember that in the United States you have the right to peacefully assemble in public places. The police doesn't have any legal authority over you like in other totalitarian countries.
http://youtu.be/WmEHcOc0Sys
Do you have the courage to speak out for what is right when the situation calls for it?
Get over your family's judgements and expectations. "Live as though your father were dead." Your parents grew up in a different era where the rules were different. The world has changed and only you know what is right and what is necessary in your life. Most of the time, your parents are wrong. You're not a baby anymore. Make decisions for yourself. Regardless of how bad you fuck up, your mother will love you anyway
In business:
Don't sell your soul to make money. Don't ever accept a beta-position. Don't work anywhere where your "boss" (slave master) treats you like you're his property. Don't work a job you don't want to do or one that goes against your personal moral code. Most will disagree with me on this point, but the truely GREAT men of history won't. Live frugally and be a cheap asshole. Hell, live on the street if you have to. It's more honorable than being someone's slave. Money doesn't get you pussy: resourcefulness does. Huge difference.
The attitude I've adopted for business is WIN/WIN or NO DEAL.
Resourcefulness: Able to act effectively or imaginatively, especially in difficult situations.
Being a true boss shows. The way you do anything is the way you do everything. If you're the at work, what makes you
think you deserve the hot girl when you go to the bar? ...You DON'T DESERVE HER, now shine my shoes bitch-boy
Techniques in Bar
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IGNORE.
When some guy butts on the interaction and you keep talking to the girl as if the other guys didn't exist, almost always, he'll eject and leave. He might start talking to you say things like "she's not interested". He doesn't exist. All that exists is you and the girl. SUPER EFFECTIVE!
Show him your back. Get between the girl and the guy. Show him your back and box him out like you're rebounding in basketball. This is funny
Humor- laugh at him, laugh with him.
If a guy says something stupid to you or tries to tool you out of the set, just laugh in his face. If he makes fun of you laugh with him.
Confuse your opponent.
Use extreme irrationality to make the other guy -- CONFUSED. Start talking in speech that doesn't make sense. Calmly say something like: "Yeah you know when you come out and people are looking at you, you have to step in bounds and make it clear that there's a political situation at hand and I have this thing going where I praise the creator everyday and blessed is his work on God's people, in our unity we win. I hear you, I hear you, we're going to win and eat the feast and blessed are the lambs on the stool of our education."
The point is to make it seem like you're very passionate about what you're saying and that you're saying something really important, when you're just spouting off nonsense. The girl can't really tell the difference.
Show strong eye contact, don't let his emotions affect you. Be able to look the other guy dead in the eye and not be intimidated by him.
Become assertive and blow him back with your presence and irreverance. Use a BOOMING VOICE to assert yourself.
"GET OUT OF HERE FAGGOT."
"YO, WATCH OUT DUDE, WATCH OUT, MOVE MOVE MOVE"
"WOOOOOO, check out my huge biceps YOOO."
"No, no, no, no, no, no, no. [To girl] come with me."
Grab girl and have her in you grip. Put your aram around her waist and have her pinned to you. This way she can't be dragged away.
Physically pick her up and carry her away if she's talking to some other dude.
Shake your finger at weak dudes. This is just hilarious
Remember that techniques are just techniques and they're dependent on how you hold yourself in all your other areas of your life. If you're a boss in the business world, hold an authoritative position, you're tough on the street and don't eat shit everyday then the techniques will take care of themselves.
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Don't acknowledge people that are against you. Chodes don't exist. Haters don't exist. Only a true man deserves proper respect, acknowledgement, and attention: all others can suck your dick and watch you be amazing.
I ran into this as a stickied post on RSD forums. I saw replies such of
"OMG YES BEST POST" "YES FUCK THE SHEEPS ALPHA MALES" "ALPHA QUIT BEING PUSSIES"
I kind of thought it was funny and amusing and wanted to see what people in GS thought.
As I think people in GS is more rationale and independent thought based than the "YES WE A CULT" of mentality.
Here's my take on it. Overall, this article screams the typical "BE ALPHA, IF THERES ANOTHER ALPHA, CHALLENGE THEM, DONT EVER BE SUBMISSIVE"
I think it's all bullshit and the author of this article was going through a phase.
I'll include my personal story.
When I was young, in middle school I was a minority of all minorities. I was probably the only Asian out of probably like 5, and the rest were blacks, hispanics, and whites. Having said that, people tried to pick on me relentlessly. When I first came over to U.S in 4th grade, I didn't know any English, didn't know anything about racial stereptypes, or people "testing you". I came from a background where in my own country, I was pretty much the top dog. I was class president, on my way to competing in Olympics until I broke my leg, had the bullies of class having my back because I was class president and so on. So naturally, I never knew what it was to be picked on or bullied you could say.
That all changed in 6th grade. I was CONSISTENTLY picked on, people doing the chinky eyed thing, ching chong, Jackie Chan, Jet Le, Bruce Lee, everything. But for the first few months, I had ZERO idea what this meant, until I finally realized they were trying to pick on me. And it was VERY confusing as I wasn't used to getting picked on for my "race". So there was an event that changed my life forever. I remember one time where I was surrounded by 60 guys and for some reason, I was fighting this guy. I spoke no English, but he just started throwing hands cause I said "Ah you are gay" and I literally thought gay meant happy. (I was so ignorant).
So basically, I punched him, and he fell on the ground. And I thought that was that. I turned around, walked away. Next thing I know, he hit me somewhere in the neck from behind, and I just fell to the ground. Next thing I know, I was crying cause it was hurting so bad, and I was in a situation I've never experienced before. When I first got home, the only thing my parents could say was "Stay the fuck out of trouble".
I was absorbing culture shock, racism, male dominance, lack of family support, bullying, academia, and learning English at the age of 12 or 13. It was merciless. And for like a year, I was taunted mercilessly, I got robbed, racial stereotypes were out of control, I was spit on, getting jumped, and all of that. Need to say, something in me snapped, and I wasn't sure what it was.
Consequently, I moved to another school. It was a bit more diverse but I was still a minority.
After all the humiliation, I just didn't have any type of fear anymore, as I kind of went through all the worst shit a man can go through. And it had a very negative impact on my psyche but also something I couldn't explain.
For instance, I rode the school bus to and back to my house. At the back of the school bus, all the black kids used to sit back there and rest of was would either sit in the front to mid section. I remember one night, there were no seats available in the front. And only at the back were there a seat. So I sat down at one of em, needless to say, some kid started talking shit to me immediately.
Him: Get the fuck out of my seat chink.
Me: Nah, I don't see your name on it.
Him: I dont give a fuck, get up before I beat the fuck out of you.
Me: First of all, that's not gonna happen. Second of all there's plenty of seat next to me so feel free to sit here.
Him: Nah, either I beat the fuck out of you or you get up.
Me: Where do you get off?
Him: The last stop.
Me: Alright I'll make you a deal. I'll get off at the stop you get off at, and let's see who beats the fuck out of who.
(At this point the whole crowd started going crazy)
Crowd: OHHHHH SHITTTTTT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Him: Man you ain't gone do shit.
Me: Okay, well just have a seat man, and we'll see.
So he sits next to me and sure enough the bus came to my stop and everyone kind of stared at me to see if I got off. I didn't
Crowd: OHHHH SHIT THIS ASIAN KID FUCKING SERIOUS DAWG.
Anyway long story short, I got off at the bus stop he got off at. And my cousin was sitting in the front who was also a very known fighter, and got off with me. It was two of us, surrounded by a circle of black kids. It was about 14-15 of em and just two of us.
I used to wear basketball shorts under my jeans and I took my jeans off.
Crowd: THIS N**** TAKIN OFF HIS JEANS, HE MAD SERIOUS.
And I simply said.
"Alright, if all of yall gonna jump in, that's some pussy shit. Let me and this dude fight one on one. And if any of your buddies wanna join, they can come in after our fight is over. Can yall do that?"
And they all started going crazy.
Long story short, me and him fought, it was kind of a tie.
But after that day, the rumor spread like crazy. "Don't ever fuck with the Asian kids"
It was weird but we had crazy respect from our peers in middle school.
Every black guy was cool with us, black girls wanted to talk to us, and I became good friends with the guy.
This was kind of a lesson I learned. I've been on both sides of the equation of being the "man" and being a "bitch". In 6th grade, I was the bitch of the entire school that everyone picked on and made fun of to get value out of. In 7th to 8th grade, I was the kid no one really fucked with.
And back to my opinion on this article. He states you should NEVER be submissive with any man, authority, or people in general, but I feel like that's the guy who's been bullied all his life and finally has this idea of "BECOME ALPHA" and NEVER be submissive.
1. He suggest going against the professor with a big ego just to save his integrity.
2. He suggests going up against "people in authority" because "noone" has authority over anyone.
I think this idea comes from a place of insecurity.
First, I act "submissive" around my mentors and men who are teaching me how to be men. These are men who may sometimes scold me but ultimately, through submission and getting your ego out the way, you can absorb their mentality and lessons like a sponge.
Two, I think going against a police officer is an idiotic thing to do. They do have the power to put you to jail and arrest you. I would rather take a little bit of ego hit than get thrown to jail.
Three, If someone is willing to fight you over any thing such as a woman, it's not really worth it. To me, the only exception is when they're fucking with my official girlfriend, friends, or family members. That's the only case where I'll full out go out on someone. (I severely fucked up guys who fucked with my little brother before) but I'd say that's the only times you should really get to physical violence.
I had an instance where I was lining up for some Jordans that were about to release. And this huge black guy with about 9 other guys just cut the line. Everyone was kind of timid to say anything, so I spoke up.
"Yo, the line is back there, quit cutting the line"
Leader: The fuck did you say?
Me: I said the lines back there, quit bullshitting and get to the back of the line.
This guy was about 6'2-6'3 and probably weighed around 280-300lbs. He could easily be considered as a heavyweight boxer. And he came up to me and asked me to repeat what I said.
Here I stood there and thought about the consequences and his position. He was cutting the line and brought all his boys for one reason and one reason only. To resell the shoes and make money. And he was willing to put up a fight for it. Me? I just wanted a pair of shoes.
So I decided to "punk out" instead.
Me: Nah, I'm good man.
Here it resulted in the same thing. His goons laughed at me, and he got an ego boost from the situation of me backing down. Did my pride hurt a little? Yes I did, and I did feel a bit embarrassed, but I wasn't about to fight some kid over a pair of shoes. And I've fought kids who were way bigger than me before, so I almost had nothing to prove to myself by fighting this guy whether I won or not. And plus I'd never see them again.
About a week later, I saw him at a local class that I was attending. I came to find out that the kid was struggling to pass all his classes and pay for college. And we just kind of looked at each other and walked by. I felt a bit of empathy for the guy and I was right to trust my gut instinct. He had nothing to lose and was willing to fight me over probably $500 profit.
BAR Scenario
I was in a bar one night out with few of my friends, few girls and few guys. I knew the owner, and I knew the security all over the bar. Anyway, I happened to see this cutie but she's surrounded by 9 other guys. I should've known but I was 19 and ignorant. I walked up to the girl, and started macking. As soon as I approach her, I got surrounded.
Guys: YOU GOT A PROBLEM BRO? THATS MY GIRL
Me: Huh?
And so on.
Rest of the night, I was going back and forth between beating his ass or not. These were the things he was doing.
#1. Yelling at me: FUCK YOU BITCH BOI, FUCK YOU
#2. Flicking me off.
#3. YELLING "YOU AINT GONE DO SHITTTTT"
The thing was, the bouncers were just staring at me to see if I wanted them to kick them out or beat his ass for me. The owner could've easily kicked them out. But I discouraged it and wanted to see what happens.
He came out of the bathroom. So I just tapped hi on the shoulder
Me: Yo, is there a problem?
Him: Only if you have a problem.
Me: (I looked at the girl) In my head I thought, (hmm. 1girl, 9 guys) And at that time I had another girl waiting for me back home. So I said following
Me: I just smiled and said, nevermind man, enjoy your night.
At the end of the closing night, I was outside sitting with my friends and he came out. He had his arms around the girl with the most proud grin on his face I've ever seen.
"YEAH! NOONE FUCKS WITH MY GIRL ERIN"
Girl: Laughs. You're a best friend a girl can ask for!
Guy: HELL YEAH I AM!
I've come to figure out that it was a guy who was already losing in the eyes of the girl, and had nothing to lose. Yet again. As she was eye fucking me the whole night.
I got laid that night, and more girls to come.
I do sometimes wonder, if I should ever fight these types of guys and get an ego boost, but I still feel like it'd never be worth it.
I probably had the biggest ego boost in my fighting days, but the "respect" guys gave me was very fake. It was only based on the fact that I was willing to bust their skulls in if they "disrespected me" but what kind of respect was that?
I think these statements are bullshit.
B. Push the limits of what's possible. Do crazy things and learn from the outcome. Get kicked out of places
Why? There's so many ways to get the same outcome without getting kicked out. I got kicked out 5 times in total. For fighting over a girl when I was 18-20. What happened? I lost the girl. (Well except for one time, the girl thought it was so hot. And we fucked each other's brains out the whole night) but other than that, it was never just worth it.
C. Go to scary neighborhoods. Walk through the ghetto at night and realize that it's not really that scary.
Probably the dumbest shit I've ever heard. The point is to face fears, not put yourself in dangerous situations to face your fears. There's so many ways to face your fears without ACTUAL consequences.
I really feel like in the PUA community, people preach "Be Alpha, Be Fearless" but I think this is really extreme. Fear serves us as a good purpose. There can be danger and sometimes it's a good sign to listen to.
"What if that guy comes to steal my girl?" - It's a solid fear. So instead of starting shit with the guy to "face your fear", you should make sure your life is impeccable so you have zero doubt that even if your girl WAS stolen, you'd have 0 remorse or worried about being "scared" of the guy.
I honestly think fear is great.
D. Never accept beta positions or submit to another man.
There's some truth to this. But it's also false.
I think true confidence comes from knowing when to fight and when not to right. And that true confidence comes from preparing for the days when you know you will have to fight and making a choice to whether fight someone or not.
I.E Training martial arts everyday, and when someone challenges you, you have the power to decide to beat his ass or "submit", and as long as it's under controlled choice of yours, I think that's true confidence.
And some situations where I WILL submit to another man.
* Mentors who I KNOW are better than me. Through submission and putting aside your ego, comes development of character growth and learning.
* Government Officials - This one is balanced.I agree with studying the law and knowing the ins and outs of it so you know your rights. But to talk back and give attitude to the police officer whether he's wrong or right, is not really the smartest idea. If there's a possibility that 0.00001% he'll use his gun, taser, or whatever else, and some how it can cause damage to your body/brain/whatever, it's really not worth it to save your "ego" or get thrown in jail.
* Professors - I would choose my battles wisely. Depending on your situation, sometimes you have to just bite the bullet, and listen to the idiotic rants by the professor. There will be a time and place where you can speak up, and that's when you make it. But for the short term gratification of a little ego boost isn't worth it imo.
I DO think what he preaches has a solid points in certain situations. Because if you ARE preparing for war, there's no reason why you should pick stupid positioning such as arguing with officers, fighting drunk idiots, or walking in the ghetto part of the town to face your fears.
A. Compete in sports (physical and mental) - Martial Arts, Basketball, Football.
(These are realms where you can safely learn how to deal with your fear rationally and under safe conditions. You can learn how to dominate other men and fight them)
B. Being defensive and neutralizing vs going on the offensive.
If a guy tools you, ignoring/neutralizing and moving along is probably the best.
I feel that you should only go on the offensive under the following terms
1. It's someone you'll run into consistently.
2. It's in defense of your peers/family/friends/significant other.
3. If someone is trying to block your path from achieving your purpose in life.
I'm relentless in these 3 conditions. I cracked a bottle in someone's head and as far as publicly beating a guy up for messing with my girlfriend and was willing to go to jail for it.
So in conclusion, my take is that.
A. You should ALWAYS prepare for conflicts. (Verbal Defense/Physical Defense/Etc)
B. And the "Alpha Males" pick and choose when a fight is worth it and other times they do "lose" and take a bit of a hit on their ego for a bigger purpose as their confidence comes from preparation of knowing to fight but deciding not to use it.
VERSUS Guys who need to prove that they're "ALPHA" to themselves and others so they just go around never backing down from a fight and never submitting to another man.
Let me know what you guys think
