Asking compliance helps you against being a Nice guy.

[DarkKnight]

I noticed something very cool today. After reading some more Alek Rolstad articles I kept asking compliance to girls. At times I was really grilling them hard which was loads of fun. However at that point it dawned to me: it is almost impossible to be seen as a typical nice guy when you are asking for compliance. Now I am absolutely not a nice guy kind of person (way too cocky), but I can imagine people still have this problem. Compliance based game can really help against this.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Good observation. How are you going about getting compliance? Any examples, Curious what your using as your go-to compliance asks.

Cheers,

 

[DarkKnight]

Well it really depends on the girl. If I really want her or am just fooling around. What I have really learned after a few things blowing up on my face is that I have to start small with asking for compliance favours and gradually make them bigger. So I like to start with plausible deniability. However when I am not that interested or just practising I can get bold.

Anyway I'll jot down some examples:
As openers, This way I open them, I pretty much ensure compliance and have easy buy in into conversation. Since I am rewarding her for cooperation.

*When I am at a cafe or a bookstore or anything with girls sitting down I ask them if they can look after my valuables (maybe a book I am reading). This way I open them, I pretty much ensure compliance and have easy buy in into conversation. Since I am rewarding her. Has worked well more than once.
*When I am in transit somewhere I ask for help or directions from girls or how certain things work. I know full well usually, but who would refuse a handsome stranger some help right? From there on it depends on the situation I can move her somewhere with me for "further explanation" or have her sit down with me and gradually build up. When your fundamentals are on point you should be surprised how many times girls are happy that someone cool is actually talking to them.
*At the gym I ask "help" from girls about how to squatt for instance when they are doing that exercise. I had great fun with this also making really cheesy comments about how she has great "form" while exercising. You know obviously with a double meaning. Haha
*How about asking a girl to take a picture of you for whatever reason. Again asking for compliance which no one would refuse and possibility to make it fun for her, ask her for ideas. Etc. Ask her to move. I once had a girl move 200 meters with me because she needed to take a picture of me because one of my favourite actors filmed at that spot.

With girls you already know or are already hooked:
Again I start small and innocent. In the past I could get really bold, but after reading some good old Rolstad articles I learned that this is a better way.

So I tell girls things like hey thats a cool necklace or whatever "show me", and from there I build up and my favourite thing is getting the girl eventually to move with me. When moving her I always state a reason WHY, to get a better buy in. For me after moving that is the point I am not a stranger anymore but someone who she has more of a connection to.

Today I was in a ballsy mood and there was this hot babe with bleached hair. When I got close however I noticed many of it is make up, point is the girl is the type who would intimidate other guys. So I really wanted to t.est how far I could get with compliance. It was pretty fun, also for her. Plus she was pretty compliant, maybe because most guys don't dare lead her? Who knows.

Also if a girl doesn't comply it is not end of the world, you can persist or move on. At this point I see rejection as fast filtering from the girl. I only persist when I notice an attainability issue usually.

 

[Space]

DarkKnight-

I'm curious what's your experience: When the girls comply to you is it always game on? For example who wouldn't accept to look after your belongings, but let's say, they are in a deep discussion and would actually mind you joining?

The simple, single best compliance I've found is the handshake (60 Years of Challenge method). I just introduce myself, like "Hi, I'm Space" and offer to shake her hand. Does she accept it? If yes, does she pull away her hand fast or not so? Gauging her reaction is a good indicator of how an interaction may go, will go between us.

How do you do kino during the day?

 

[DarkKnight]

I slowly escalate space and maybe I should have mentioned but I always keep up a sexy vibe. However since it is mostly daygame I am doing I don't go over the top, especially not in public, I keep it simple until I get her to move. Touching is always easier after I have locked in or gotten her to move, but again I start simple. Works like a charm for me. I also usually make use of a warm "sexy" half smile, in order to create a vibe which won't be platonic.

If I use your method, ofcourse it can work, but I always have the idea it is better to provide some meager amount of social context, so the girl feels allowed to accept my moves especially when there are people around.

Maybe I was not really clear (since I am writing from phone), but I usually do not open sets with 2 girls with this method but lonewolves! When I write girls , I mean individual girls.

With 2 girls and especially daygame I look to her for subconscious signs of interest. In this situation I go less for compliance but go a little more direct while keeping tabs on her ASD, since her girlfriend is with her. Usually I find a way of least effort kind of way to pass next to her, suddenly "notice" her, make comment about how she "reminds me of someone" make small chit (minutes max) and then go for the phone.

 

[Space]

DarkKnight-

Thanks for the clarification! To also clarify myself, I'm also not that bold most of the time to just say 'Hi' to a girl and offer a handshake as the very first thing, it depends on the situation. Asking for directions? Some people would just call it a very indirect opener, you call it a compliance... Whatever.

But my point is that discovering this handshake thing (by Chris 60) was a true revelation to me. Regardless of whether I manage to put out a half-meaningful sentence of my mouth before or not. But I certainly wouldn't go as far as calling my half-comprehensible sentences compliance. Considering it a little more... No, I don't think much of your compliance openers are for me. If you really want a photo of yourself, by all means, ask for female help! I personally wouldn't go this far just to open someone. My style is rather just being honest with my intentions. But it's fine. What works for you, works for you, what works for me, works for me.

Sometimes I open pairs or trios of girls during the day too. Sometimes it turns out there is a good vibe, so why not?

*At the gym I ask "help" from girls about how to squatt for instance when they are doing that exercise. I had great fun with this also making really cheesy comments about how she has great "form" while exercising. You know obviously with a double meaning. Haha

However, I liked this one the most. I'm curious if you have any more similar physical ones. (This gym thing... I don't know what to do with it. I'm not American.)

Today I was in a ballsy mood and there was this hot babe with bleached hair. When I got close however I noticed many of it is make up, point is the girl is the type who would intimidate other guys. So I really wanted to t.est how far I could get with compliance. It was pretty fun, also for her. Plus she was pretty compliant, maybe because most guys don't dare lead her? Who knows.

OK. I don't see any compliance in this story. Maybe you just call your every interaction compliance? From where I came from it's simply called being cocky, teasing her, or Western game. Whatever.

 

[DarkKnight]

Space ease up a little.

I already told you how I escalate from the opener and how I steadily increase demands. I feel you are grilling me a little too much for details. I did not intend to write the most comprehensive guide on compliance. Also while asking for directions I also get the girl to move with me, to sit with me, etc. Again gradually increasing demands. But I already wrote this. This is not compliance? Maybe I should ask her next time to do some pushups from the get go.

Yes with the bleached haired girl I didn't describe what I did for compliance, doesn't mean I didn't ask her for it for a multitude at times.

Look I will be frank, I never said I am the perfect seducer, despite that I keep having more succes and am in a pretty good place right now.

The entire point is, I just noticed how asking for compliance and gradually increasing them is a quick prevention from being seen as a nice guy. Which is what I wanted to share.

Anyway this is becoming an unproductive overanalysis in details, so I want to leave it at this.

 

[Space]

DarkKnight-

Interestingly I didn't have the intention to grill you. Your English words were simply interpreted through my non-English speaking mind coming from my non-English/American background and this is simply how I see it. Nothing personal.

Yeah. It was my impression with my very first post and very first interaction with this community that people from different backgrounds can easily misunderstand each other. See how Mr.Rob is still the funny guy with me. It's not a big deal.

 

[DarkKnight]

Okay bro ,

Well leave it at that, no problem

 

[Mr.Rob]

Dark Knight, right on man yeah I've always looked at compliance as a great screening tool as well. Try and build compliance somewhat aggressively and keep asking for more compliance until she's in bed with you. Its a pretty baller style of game actually and you'll get a lot of girls that didn't show you much interest and never would've thought would've come along with you but they keep complying and following your lead and the next thing you know your sleeping with them thinking "damn Im glad I didn't throw in the towel when she wasn't giving me the bored look in the beginning."

Another cool + fun compliance move to try is getting girls to model their outfits to you if they're dressed nice. You kinda put them on the spot, its fun, and she working to show off her style to impress you (or at least not look silly). Best used on girls who really went out of their way to look good that day rather than a girl in jeans.

Hope to see some lay reports soon using this tech. Good stuff man.

 

[DarkKnight]

Thanks Rob,

I'm a little rough on the edges still, but keep improving. Main thing which holds me back is that I have a super busy lifestyle and no time for night venues.

BUT, I'm improving and I want to improve and contribute more.

Thanks