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At what point does romanticism become a bit creepy/unattractive?

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Found this in the local news.

At first i thought, 'what a loser. Spending most of his youth learning Chinese, in a foreign country he's probably never visited, just for a girl?'

But then i thought, 'who am i to judge?', as i remembered myself doing some very crazy and similar things for girls when i was young (though not on the same scale obviously), in the name of romanticism.
And it's not like he's stalking the girl. These two probably love each other very much to have done this. He's 23 now, they'll probably marry soon.

But would you say he has 'attractive' traits, that he done so much, just for that girl? He is romantic, determined, etc, no denying that. But won't girls find that a bit desperate, as opposed to desireable? Would you want to share his traits?

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A YOUNG man from Basingstoke has returned home from the adventure of a lifetime – having spent the last four years in China after falling in love with his pen-pal.

Joshua Webb had been interested in the country since the age of 14.

He began writing to Sophie Su in 2007 after advertising for a pen-pal on a Chinese website, and the pair fell for each other through their regular letter exchanges.

Joshua resolved to secure a place at a Chinese university so he could be closer to Sophie.

But this meant improving his Chinese speaking, which was “practically non-existent”, up to a level where he could confidently speak, read and write.

Joshua completed his A-levels and successfully applied for a course in Chinese and economics at Xiamen University, in the Fujian province of China, near to where 26-year-old Sophie lived.

For the first year, in 2009, he spent all of his time immersed in learning Mandarin, which is notoriously hard for Westerners to master.

He then successfully completed the three-year degree and graduated, but his relationship with Sophie’s family was not so straight-forward.

In September, Joshua returned home to his parents in Renown Way, Chineham, and now he and Sophie are trying to find a way to be together again.

Joshua said: “It is very hard for her to get a visa to come to the UK, even if we were to get married.
..“I may try to get a working visa to teach English in China, but at the moment we don’t know if that will be possible. It is very difficult.”

Depending on whether they build a life together in England or China, Joshua hopes to work either in teaching, translating or to secure work with a Chinese company in the UK.

He said of his experiences in China: “It has been a life-changing experience.

“I would never have been able to do it if it wasn’t for my parents supporting me financially, and I am very grateful to them.”

WHY YOU BRING GINGER GWEILO TO OUR HOUSE?! lol
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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ryan said:
But would you say he has 'attractive' traits, that he done so much, just for that girl? He is romantic, determined, etc, no denying that. But won't girls find that a bit desperate, as opposed to desireable? Would you want to share his traits?

Determined and romantic is fine, but not when you are desperate. Why is it desperate? Because he dedicated far too much time and effort (and money) to a girl he didn't know. Reason why it is bad to do this:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/its-n ... s-hers-you

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I know this lad well. He had been interested in SE Asian studies for a long time. He originally wanted to go to university in Japan or S Korea. However, he joined this forum for students interested in asian studies/language and met his girlfriend on there. She convinced him to try a top Chinese university instead and to come to her town. Their relationship kicked off from there. There was no chasing on either part. And as for being a ginger.......it is much loved over there. His hair is very curly and his girlfriend won't let him cut it. He is six foot tall, and that is against the norm too. He speaks fluent mandarin and that also is unusual. Most visitors speak only basic mandarin. He has received special awards at his graduation for being an exceptional student and for presenting an exceptionally good dissertation, being outscored by only one other student in the university; and she was eastern asian herself. This lad set out to achieve a knowledge of Chinese culture and language and give himself a promising career. He has translated hotel guides and commemorative books for leading 5* hotels from mandarin to english. The girl is beautiful and he is a very lucky lad.....but chase or stalk her, he didn't.
 

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THENIMBLETHIEF said:
I know this lad well. He had been interested in SE Asian studies for a long time. He originally wanted to go to university in Japan or S Korea. However, he joined this forum for students interested in asian studies/language and met his girlfriend on there. She convinced him to try a top Chinese university instead and to come to her town. Their relationship kicked off from there. There was no chasing on either part. And as for being a ginger.......it is much loved over there. His hair is very curly and his girlfriend won't let him cut it. He is six foot tall, and that is against the norm too. He speaks fluent mandarin and that also is unusual. Most visitors speak only basic mandarin. He has received special awards at his graduation for being an exceptional student and for presenting an exceptionally good dissertation, being outscored by only one other student in the university; and she was eastern asian herself. This lad set out to achieve a knowledge of Chinese culture and language and give himself a promising career. He has translated hotel guides and commemorative books for leading 5* hotels from mandarin to english. The girl is beautiful and he is a very lucky lad.....but chase or stalk her, he didn't.

Hello Mr Webb, nice to have you on the boards.

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She convinced him to try a top Chinese university instead and to come to her town.

Xiamen is not a 'top' Chinese University. Not even close. It's outside the top 20 on most subjects. (I hope to study my masters in Qinghua or Sichuan University, which is why i know).
So, going by what you/joshua webb told the newspaper, you started looking for (Chinese) universities when you were 14?

See point #4. You needed an HSK level 5 (fluency at chinese) to study at a Chinese University. Are you saying this guy studied Chinese for 5 years, and totally changed his plans to stay in the same town as an internet stranger, just because of a suggestion of a forum member, when you were 14? (who researches universities when they're 14?). The alternative which you suggested sounds even more ridiculous.


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And as for being a ginger.......it is much loved over there.

'loved' certainly. But not in the way you think. They make fun of it and point to it on the streets. I was in Kunming with an Irish girl traveller, and the poor girl was stared at the whole time we went out. Don't see what this has to do with anything, but just wanted to correct your delusion.


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He is six foot tall, and that is against the norm too.

20 years ago maybe, but not now. Fuzhou began industrialising much earlier than most of China and hence the majority of late 80's/90's-born children lived with relatively plentiful food and good housing. I am 6ft 2, and at least 70% of all young men there were between 5ft10 and 6ft1. (I've been to Fuzhou myself)


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He speaks fluent mandarin and that also is unusual. Most visitors speak only basic mandarin.

Lol. No they don't. The minimum HSK level of entrance to a Chinese university is HSK level 5 (3-4 years of studying Chinese). And most Chinese universities have quite sizeable populations of late-20's white Europeans and Australians who are remarkably fluent.


As you seem to know this guy and his 'relationship' rather too well, while also making irrelevant comments about his looks (what's that got to do with it?), my guess is that you are indeed Joshua Webb. You recently googled your name and university out of curiosity/paranoia of what the world knows about you and found this thread.

There's no way someone who just 'happened to know him', also 'just happened' to be surfing page 3 of 'Off Topic' and found this random thread from November. No way. You were searching for it, and that is because you are Joshua Webb.

I see this is your only post. May i refer you to the Niubi Assignment and begin approaching girls? Or will your girlfriend disapprove?

I'm not trying to attack you, but your post was ridiculous.
If you really speak Chinese (and you do), then you'll know what i mean when i say your post is biaoti dang, and you are 250.
 

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I am actually his father; he has a level 9 (old HSK), He does not know that I have seen this forum. Maybe he has seen it, maybe not. He started looking at universities in his second year of college, doing A levels. You are wrong about red hair in China. You are extremely negative to other peoples comments and are hence a troll. I can only assume this is jealousy on your part as you obviously are not used to new contributors on this site. Please go to the Chinese Forums site and look at all the amazing reviews and responses to his contributions there. Why do you have to make uninformed negative comments about someone you have never met before. I have also been to Xiamen, and the surrounding areas with my wife on more than a few occasions when he was studying there. The local paper report was not a good report, he never looked at universities in china at 14. That's ridiculous. He started looking around 16/17. The girt in question was and is still living in Xiamen at the time. Perhaps I have made a mistake in joining this forum. I am not an over sensitive person but your attitude stinks.
 

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THENIMBLETHIEF said:
I am actually his father; he has a level 9 (old HSK), He does not know that I have seen this forum. Maybe he has seen it, maybe not. He started looking at universities in his second year of college, doing A levels. You are wrong about red hair in China. You are extremely negative to other peoples comments and are hence a troll. I can only assume this is jealousy on your part as you obviously are not used to new contributors on this site. Please go to the Chinese Forums site and look at all the amazing reviews and responses to his contributions there. Why do you have to make uninformed negative comments about someone you have never met before. I have also been to Xiamen, and the surrounding areas with my wife on more than a few occasions when he was studying there. The local paper report was not a good report, he never looked at universities in china at 14. That's ridiculous. He started looking around 16/17. The girt in question was and is still living in Xiamen at the time. Perhaps I have made a mistake in joining this forum. I am not an over sensitive person but your attitude stinks.

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You are extremely negative to other peoples comments and are hence a troll.
My comments are perfectly reasonable, as they speak from nothing but experience and first-hand knowledge. It doesn't matter when your son/you started studying chinese, that was just one unverifiable point of yours and assumption of mine that is not relevant to discussions nor my points, but just something to add to my questioning of your very odd account of your son.

1. Xiamen is not a good university. Most in the surrounding areas go to Shanghai's universities or Guangzhou. It's probably why he's only an English teacher now.
2. Gingers are not revered like the demi-gods you believe. Most Chinese people are unfortunately not like fellow, accepting westerners and will judge on appearances, especially by the amount of nepotism which occurs in that country. But they also are not some shallow fools you like to paint them as, who treat a ginger like a prince by his hair alone. That is an insult to the chinese people, and you'll hence find the only person making misinformed statements is yourself.
3/4. See above.

THENIMBLETHIEF said:
Why do you have to make uninformed negative comments about someone you have never met before.
That's ironic. I haven't. But your son sure made overly-positive/naive assumptions with someone he never met before.

THENIMBLETHIEF said:
Please go to the Chinese Forums site and look at all the amazing reviews and responses to his contributions there.
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THENIMBLETHIEF said:
Perhaps I have made a mistake in joining this forum.
We're usually a very accepting lot. Your wife sure won't be when she sees what forums you join on the internet.


I can't be bothered with you anymore. *walks away*
 

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My son does not teach english. Where did you get that one from you gimp. He taught english whilst studying in xiamen. He is working for the security services here in the UK utilising the skills he has in Mandarin. My son has not made any comments on this post as I told you before. You are really over estimating your knowledge of the Chinese people. I did not come on to this site to look at your childish schoolboy shit, only to make comment on a post that I saw in google that involved my son. One thing's for sure, you certainly have absolutely no respect for Chinese women. Looking at your age, I see that you are, in fact, just a child....probably with a two inch dick, that compensates by spending his time comparing make believe female conquests on this site, whilst quietly knocking one out whilst his mother is out of the room.......................lan jaio
 

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