Bboy100 ' s Newbie Assignment

[Bboy100]

Day 1: I live in a pretty small city (82500 people). This seems to be a serious problem for Day Game, as there are very few people. Also, I apologize in advance if this is poorly written. I wrote it on my smartphone.

Location 1: The Mall

I started out at a mall near my University. It was about 1:00 PM on a Wednesday. The mall seemed to be mostly empty. Most stores had 1-2 people in them. Some had none.

The first store I went to was 21 forever. There were a few women in it, but they all seemed to be well over age 35. None of them were even remotely attractive.

I then proceeded to walk around the mall, peeking into every store just to see what kind of people were there. Most of them seemed to be the same way (1-2 people, and if they were women, they were age 35+).

I also spent some time in Victoria Secret, as I was looking to buy sexy for him (cologne). Victoria secret had a lot more women (7-8 in total). Unfortunately, they were still all 35+, with the exception of a few high school aged girls.

I left the mall, feeling rather disappointed.

Location 2: The Street

After driving around in the downtown area for about 10 mins, just to scout out the people walking around before parking. There were more people downtown then at the mall (still not that many), but it seems the demographic was still 35+. In fact, most of them seemed to be senior citizens. After parking, I walked around for a little while. Until I reached my third location.

Location 3: Bus Station.
Feeling rather disappointed with the demographic in my city, I didn't spend too long at the Bus Station. I walked through it once. It was filled mostly with Senior Citizens.

Location 4: College Party
I did not go to a party today, but I go to one every week. This is a pretty good venue. LOTS of attractive and available women go there.

Conclusion: I may have chosen the wrong time to go out. Most of the country's youth is still working at this time. I will retry day 1. Next time however, I'll make sure to go out at around 6:00 PM.

Also, I might try a college campus (a different one from mine) as one of my venues.

 

[Bboy100]

I decided to skip day 2. I live my life on a daily basis by keeping good posture and making strong eye-contact with everyone who passes me. Day 2's assignment doesn't really take me out of my comfort zone.



Day 3:
This time, I decided to go to a mall in a different town on a Saturday night. There were far more people, including cute girls there. When I arrived, I decided to listen to a motivational speech by Eric Thompson, to get myself pumped up as I was going out alone, and I needed something to get me in state.

Girl #1: I said hi to her right as she was passing me by. In fact, I'm reletively sure we were side by side as I said hi. Naturally, she wasn't even aware I said anything to her.

Girl #2: Same as girl #1

Girl #3: This time, I said Hi from a little further away. She may or may not have been aware that I was actually talking to her. Either way, I got no reply from her.

Girls #4 and 5: Girl #4 was the same as girl #3.

Girl #5: I was starting to feel a little more confident, and my fundamentals were a little better. I more audibly said "Hi" to girl #5. This time, she clearly noticed, and smiled back as she walked by me.

Girl #6: Same as girl #1.

At any rate, this was definitely a challenge for me. Which is strange because I often have full conversations with girls (I even went on a few dates these last few weeks). Either way, since its still challenging, I'm definitely going to do this assignment again tomorrow. Since I live on a college campus, I'll also try to make it into a habit to say hi to girls who happen to walk by me as I go about my day.

 

[Bboy100]

Ok, so I kinda quit the newbie assignment last time because I was @ my school's town..there were no good day venues and I wasn't 21 yet. Now that I'm back home next to Seattle, I'm restarting it. Even though I do go out and approach now, I've done it pretty much exclusively at night. So for all intents and purposes, I'm brand new to day game. So I figured I might as well start from day 1 again.
Anyways, here's day 1:

I started out driving around in downtown Seattle checking to see what's around. Unfortunately, it seems there weren't really many girls out at all. It looks like downtown is honestly mostly businesses and such. I couldn't really find good parking, and there weren't many people there to begin with, so I decided it wasn't really worth going out there. Instead, I opted to go to the Pike Place Market. Its basically a marketplace with lots of cafe's a waterfront, restaurants a few bars etc. It had a very European vibe to it (It's also known as one of the touristy areas in Seattle..definitely worth visiting if you're ever there!). Anyways, there were LOTS of girls my age there. Still, I had a difficult time parking. After 10 more mins or so, I found a parking. The issue is it costed $10 for just 40 mins. Lol. Since I was already there, I decided to just pay it. I definitely won't be going there by car anymore.

As I finished paying, a couple girls came to the pay stall next to me. One of them was pretty attractive. The other wasn't. They both looked pretty confused as they tried to operate the pay stall. I asked them if they needed help. They said it didn't accept cash and they couldn't pay (or something like that). So I offered to cover them if they can pay me for it. They accepted. The unattractive friend went to check which stall # their car was parked in (the machine needs to know for the payment). I chatted with the attractive girl for a few seconds. She seemed pretty receptive to me. I was tempted to ask for a phone number, but I didn't want to look like I was doing this for them just to get her number. Her friend came back after 15 seconds or so. I paid for their lot, they paid me and left.

As I walked around the market, I saw quite a few college aged girls hanging out there. Most of them were in groups though. There were also a few who were alone. Generally speaking, the area was pretty nice. It also had an indoor area which looked kinda like a mall. Overall, I don't like how there were only a few girls who were alone. But I feel like this is probably as good as it gets?

In any case, when I do go back there in the future, I'll probably go by bus as opposed to car. Paying $20 per outing (cost of 2-4 hours) would get very costly.


Just wondering...do you guys approach girls in groups during day game? Or do you just wander around till you find a few who are alone?


Later that day, I also went to a mall/downtown area of a city a little closer to me. Getting to Seattle will probably take 40+ mins by bus. Driving to this place takes 10. As I wandered around, I noticed a few attractive girls. None of them were alone though. But it is a Thursday afternoon. So hopefully on Sat+Sunday, there'll be more people/girls at the mall.

I'm also planning on checking out UW (A campus with 65000 students) next week when school's out. I didn't want to check it now because they're still in finals week, so there's going to be a LOT more girls there than there normally will be during the summertime...not good if I'm trying to scope out how good a venue it will be the rest of the summer.

 

[ray_zorse]

I personally feel that groups are a waste of time, maybe a more advanced seducer would make something of it. Groups are good practice though, because there'll be a bit more banter and tests, I sometimes approach a group just for the fun of it, even though I know that when I ask for the number she'll refuse, in order to look pure for the group. If you genuinely like a girl in a group and it's progressed to the stage of a number grab, the best thing to do is to try to remove her temporarily -- "come over here I need to talk to you" and then get her number. It wouldn't be a bad idea to practice memorizing phone numbers, as this is a lot more discreet than getting your phone out wherever.

Having said that, pairs of girls are much better. My feeling is that if two girls are hanging out together they're likely best buddies or at least somewhat close (they might only be colleagues who happened to leave the office at the same time, but that's pretty unlikely, even if they're colleagues they're usually close friends). So she doesn't have to worry so much about reputation damage. If you see a pair of girls, go ahead and open the one you like. Just pay a little attention to the other one so she doesn't get bored.

Having said that... I'd say the reason you aren't seeing girls by themselves is that you're looking in the wrong places at the wrong times. For instance, you said you were in a touristy area -- who would go to a touristy area by themselves? You're mainly there to hang out, relax... so you'll want to be with a friend or a group. In my city (admittedly 6x the size of Seattle according to a quick search), the downtown has millions of girls walking by themselves at pretty much any time of day between 8am and 8pm. They're just going to/from work, to/from study, doing their personal shopping, on their way to meet friends/boyfriend, or whatever. Single girls are pretty abundant. If your experience differs then I would suggest a little supermarket game, or failing that, perhaps bookshop, or general shopping mall game. There's gotta be single girls!!

Ray

 

[Bboy100]

Thanks Ray.
Yeah, I felt that groups would be kinda awkward. Especially for the girl. I've seen groups work for people during night game, but its still way harder. There's probably no reason to go out of my way to do that at this point when I'm still kinda fighting AA. I think I'll try UW next week. Even during the summer, there should be a lot of students there, if for no other reason, just because of its sheer size. If UW doesn't work out, there are a few other areas of note in Seattle which I can check out. Then maybe after that, I'll try coffee shops and supermarkets (I feel like they should be last resort because there'll be relatively few people there?)

 

[Bboy100]

Day 5: Ok, so I skipped a few days. I did day 1 (although I'll have to do it again cause neither of my locations panned out), I do days 2 and 3 on a daily basis, so I feel like that would be kind of a waste of time. I already did day 4, and tbh it seems pretty much identical to day 5 in a lot of ways. So yeah, I'm going from day 5 and on at this point.

Note: I added in an extra challenge (or maybe this is what I'm supposed to do, not really sure...the description doesn't specify): Make sure that I actually stop and get the attention of each girl I talk to. Last time I did day 4 (a few months ago) I just said "hi" to girls as they passed me. Most of them didn't even acknowledge me, so its likely they didn't even know I was talking to them. This time, I made sure to actually start an interaction. Also, I did 10 approaches instead of 6. I don't remember every individual interaction, so I'll just summarize important observations:

1. During day game, it seems much harder to abide by Spezzatura and the Law of Least Effort. In night game, we're all in the same venue and most people are standing still. Its comparably easy to make my approach look natural. Throughout day game, if I want to talk to certain girls, I have to divert my path and straight up start walking towards them from very far away. They see it, I see it, frankly, it feels weird. The girls for whom I did this, my fundamentals were pretty bad, my AA skyrocketed. In fact, more times than not, I was unable to approach in a scenario like this.In fact, I only managed to do an approach like this once. Conversely, if I'm just standing next to a girl in line, or even if we're walking in opposite directions towards each other, if I just stop her and talk to her, my AA is a lot lower. It feels more natural. Thoughts?

2. Regardless of how I approached them, most girls seemed at least a little startled by me and a little nervous. Is this normal? Or do I need to refine my approach?

3. Once again, my venue was bad. Out of the 10 girls I approached, I only would have gone on dates with 4 of them. And I was specifically looking for attractive girls as I did this assignment...I just figured it would take all day to find 10 of them. lol Hence why I'm going to be checking out UW and other Seattle areas. Also, there weren't many girls alone anyway. Although maybe I will start trying to do pairs as Ray mentioned.

4. If a girl was in front of me or passes me before I could get in "talking distance" of her, I felt my only option would be to run up from behind her and tap her on the shoulder. I couldn't get myself to do this once...AA was too high, it felt waaay too creepy. Don't really know why.

 

[ray_zorse]

Throughout day game, if I want to talk to certain girls, I have to divert my path and straight up start walking towards them from very far away. They see it, I see it, frankly, it feels weird. The girls for whom I did this, my fundamentals were pretty bad, my AA skyrocketed.

There's a few different ways of handling this. One seducer takes pride in just going in for the kill no matter what... I remember a story that he spotted a stunner from a bit far away in a shopping mall, and she was walking fast. So he ran after her... and apparently he's had to chase her basically all the way out to the car park and to her car before he could catch up. Another seducer makes fun of this approach... "PUA lore has it that you must approach no matter what, doesn't matter if she is standing on her head, juggling knives, whatever, if you don't approach you pussied out and you weren't true to yourself". Yet another seducer says he spotted a girl he liked in a shopping mall, so he casually followed her into a record store, started browsing at the end of her section and eventually came up next to her without having given any indication of having noticed her, and then casually struck up a conversation "hi... you're looking at xxx?" blah blah. The latter approach is low pressure but requires good eye contact discipline. Be aware that she knows where you are and what you're doing and where you're looking, even if she doesn't appear to have noticed you. She has. Don't check her out pre approach. This is one of the hardest things to nail.

Anyway, my personal favourite is this one, from Sasha Daygame: When you see a hot girl, instantly break into a run. Yes, run up to her. This puts any thoughts of AA out of your head, because you don't have time for any second thoughts or overthinking it or trying to decide what you're gonna say. The other thing that's fantastic about it, is that it tells the girl you have balls, you aren't afraid to go out on a limb to get her attention, and when you see something you like, you fucking go for it no matter what. I have tried this quite a lot and it works really well. When I run up from behind and pull up beside her and slow down, just the fact that someone is running in her vicinity is sufficient pre-opener. Remember though, never tap and never open from behind, she has to have noticed you first. If you surprise her it's bad.

Another personal favourite is the street stop, my method has evolved a bit since I started. Nowadays I do a street stop by blocking her path (but slightly to her right side) and touching her elbow to stop her. This is pretty ballsy but it has worked without fail for me. For street stops it's usually good to use a compliment opener, in Chase's words, "what other reason could you possibly have for stopping her in the street?". Haha.

Ray

 

[Bboy100]

Hmm well the second one seems a little bit creepy/stalker-ish. So I guess I'll just start trying my best to approach inconvenient girls, even despite my AA.

never tap and never open from behind

So what if she doesn't notice me, I start talking, she doesn't know I'm talking to her and she just walks on? I guess a better way to ask the question would be: Should I never tap EVER? Or Should I just not tap when I'm coming from behind?

 

[ray_zorse]

Instead of tapping use the palm side of your open hand and put it on her elbow or shoulder for at least a second or two, this will get her attention. But, she has to have noticed you in her vicinity or it will be creepy and scare her. That's why you shouldn't open from behind. It's easy to get slightly in front of her and then open.
Ray

 

[Bboy100]

So, I didn't technically go out to meet women. But that's essentially what I ended up doing. Only thing is this wasn't Day Game. I'll still count it since this was technically my "rest" day and I did a LOT more than one approach.

Basically, I went out with a friend who I hadn't seen in a year.

He also arrived about 40 minutes late. So I did some warm up sets while I was waiting.

I started out by going to the upstairs area of the club and sitting down. There was a group of girls right next to me. Right as I was going to open them, one of them opened me asking how my night was. I briefly told her it was going well, this was my first time there. Right as I was going to compliment her on her fashion, her less attractive friend interrupted with something. Unfortunately, this unattractive friend was also the one sitting next to me. Whereas the other girl was sitting far away from me and also diagonally. So the attractive one stopped talking to me. I ended up talking to the unnattractive one for like, 5 mins or so (whatever, this was a warm-up set anyways), then I excused myself saying that I was going to go wait for my friend (who had still not arrived). I then went downstairs and more or less repeated the same procedure with another girl. I sat down, casually looked at my phone for like 15 seconds, then I opened her. Again, I had a 5 min convo with her. She was pretty receptive to me, but she also wasn't very attractive. Still, my friend was no where to be seen.

So I went upstairs and started dancing. There was a group of girls there who started dancing next to me (I feel like it was an approach invitation). Unfortunately, I wasn't really sure how to open them. I would do direct, but I tend to run out of things to say after the compliment. Indirect works a lot better for me because it feels more natural. But I couldn't find anything indirect to talk about, so we kinda just awkwardly danced together without an introduction for like, 5 mins. They eventually moved to a different area of the club. I was hoping to reopen that set later on in the night and going directly to the attractive one this time. But I never saw them again. :/

I talked to a few more girls both on the dance floor and downstairs.

Then finally, my friend arrived. Honestly, I thought we were just gonna go catch up. But he also wanted to dance. So we went to the dance floor. Eventually I split off with him.


I saw a girl hitting the rest of her friends with a balloon of some sort (didn't know what it was yet). I grabbed it from her hand teasing her that hitting people isn't nice (still wasn't paying attention to exactly what I was holding). I don't remember the details of the conversation, but most of it was just me playfully giving her shit. I did find out that what I was holding was a blow up penis and that they were doing a bachelerotte party. LOL. I told her I wanted to get back to my friend, but I'd love to get to know her sometime. I took out my phone and told her to put her # in. She did.

I went back to my friend, chatted with him for a while. He said he was "trying to act arrogant in order to get girl's attention". What he was really doing was just sitting there with a depressed look on his face! LOL.
...I'm just gonna assume this was as as result of being drunk. lol. Although based on what I've read in some of Chase's articles, an expression of "brooding" like what he was doing does sometimes get girls to approach you. But only in Social Circle.

Anyways, I opened another set after that. I commented on a girl's tattoo. She was receptive to me all throughout. Eventually, her friend came. She introduced me to her. I talked to her for a few seconds, then returned to my original girl. Eventually, her friend asked if I'm "with them" pointing to a group of people. I told them I was with "him" pointing to my friend and motioning him to come over. I introduced him to the girls and continued my conversation with the original girl I opened. I grabbed her phone number at the end and they left.

I also approached a few more girls, but their boyfriends immediately cockblocked me (I love that! It means they think I'm a threat. Tbh, it feels kinda empowering).

Anyways, I'm sorry I couldn't include any actual conversation in this one. I was very "in the moment" throughout all my conversations. So remembering the details is kinda hard. But like i said, it was basically me just bantering and lightly teasing them.