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Beam

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Yo! I went out alone on Saturday. Inside the venue, as I’m walking to the bar to grab a drink, I see two girls coming the opposite way. Both look young, early 20s. One is a short beautiful brunette in a tight black top with shoulder length hair (HBShort), the one behind is a hot blonde (HBBlonde) with a ponytail. HBBlonde is dancing and vibing.

As I walk past I open the blonde

Me: “You have the best energy”

I start mimicking the dance she’s doing. She’s laughing at thanking me. HBShort looks back at starts smiling. I walk past making a note to come back and reengage.

I come back, notice them both and go “Hey”

They’re beaming.

HBBlonde: “Hey it’s you”

I immediately go right up in between them (like, no distance between us) and start shaking my hips

HBShort is smiling. I tell her she has a beautiful smile.

HBShort: “Thanks, so do you!”
HBBlonde: “Yeah, you have such good energy. Every other guy around is so stiff, look at them. Haha”

Details are a bit fuzzy, but I’m mainly talking to the HBShort. They're both incredibly attractive but I'm more drawn to her. She then tells me HBBlondes name. I pull HBBlonde in and give her a big kiss on the cheek.

HBShort: “You’re a lawyer aren’t you”
Me: “The hell, why do you think that? Haha”
HBShort: “Actually no, you’re too happy to be a lawyer”
Me: “Yeah, sucks even more that ChatGPT is going to take their jobs now”
HBShort: “Hahaha, I love ChatGPT”

(Yes, I actually brought up ChatGPT. I've been spending a lot of time playing with it over the last month. And yes, she actually said this. I was surprised as well.)

At this point we’re essentially right up in each others space, lots of touching. HBBlonde leaves us alone and goes up to some other dudes. HBShort asks me what I do.

Me: “I’m a male stripper”
HBShort: “Oh my god, really!”
Me: “Haha, nah. But I’m working on it. It’s my dream.
HBShort: “How often do you practice your moves?”
Me: “Every day”
HBShort: “Show me!”
Me: “Maybe you’ll get a show later” with a wink.

She’s smiling and laughing. I correctly guess that she's in the medical field (she's a nurse). I qualify her saying that she must care about people then, and that that's sexy.

At some point I suggest getting a drink but she declines.

HBBlonde comes back. Don’t handle the compliance rejection well so unsure what to do. I want to progress the energy somehow but feel like I’m stalling out. The vibe seems likes it’s changed with HBShort. Less touching, more formal.

I’m sort of hanging there at this point and feel like a bit of a drag at this point so I start dancing and move away slightly on my own (still in close proximity to them) then come back.

HBBlonde: “You keep coming back!”
ME: “Yeah, can’t help it. Energy over here is the best”

It would have been funny to say “How else am I going to get the threesome” and laughed at their reaction.

HBBlonde: “I’m sweating”
Me: “I have that effect on people”
HBBlonde: “This guy!!” She then tells HBShort what I said, and she laughs.

I need time to think, so say I’m heading to the bathroom.

HBBlonde: “Why are you leaving??”
Me (with a wink): “Don’t worry, I’ll be back. Have to go to the bathroom” (I put my arm around HBShort and pull her in to my side, facing HBBlonde while I say this”

Before I leave I have them both in front of me (don’t remember what happened).

HBShort (excidently to HBBlonde): “He’s so cute

I go to the toilet and come back. On the way I notice tons of girls looking at me and smiling. Even guys are. Preselection at work – these two were arguably two of the most beautiful girls in the club and from an outsiders view they were all over me (even though in reality there wasn't much compliance. Reactions vs results eh)

When I come back, both of them are talking to two black dudes. I decide to leave it and wait until that ends (the black dudes aren’t doing anything it looks like), but when they move further away, I decide to just go in.

HBBlonde: “Hey it’s you!”

She goes back to talking with the black dude. HBShort is half engaged with the other dude and not paying me as much attention. But I deliberately start looking bored and looking away, around the room. Sure enough, she comes up to me smiling.

She asks me where I live. I tell her, she tells me. I tease her about how far away it is. She’s staying with HBBlonde in the city tonight (they were celebrating HBBlonde being back as she’s a flight attendant). At some point she starts shaking her hips.

Me: "Damn, you might look all cute and innocent but then you bust out those moves"

She looked annoyed when I said this. Maybe it showed I didn't get it (all women are sexual and I should have known she had that side and not been surprised yada yada). I don't know.

Once again HBBlonde comes back. I tell them “lets go get a drink!” They decline. I say I'm going to get one myself (actually I just grab a water and lime. Should note I've only had two at this point and am almost fully sober.

I come back and go right up to HBShort. “I’m going to pick you up”. Kinda retarded but whatever. I felt like doing it. I wanted to just try this, always wanted to pick a girl up in a club and spin her around.

I then lift her up and spin her around a couple times.

HBBlonde looks a bit concerned and comes over. HBShort laughs and tells me that I was struggling. We joke about gym etc.

The vibe just continued to die though. HBBlonde kept coming back, I felt like a third wheel and they’d declined my compliance requests to grab a drink. So again, I went to chill with the dude I'd met at the bar previously (nearby), and some other girl came up to us. I started chatting to her (in sight of HBShort and HBBlonde). HBBlonde was whispering something in HBShorts ear.

They left.

I go upstairs to check out the other dance floor. As I’m coming back, they’re coming the opposite direction.

HBBlonde: “Oh my god, Beam”

I ask them if they’re leaving. They say no, just checking out upstairs. At this point I feel it’s dead. Nevertheless, I just go for the number anyway.

Me: “Hey, I’m heading down, but let me grab your number and lets grab a drink sometime”
HBShort (looking evasive): “I’m sorry, I don’t hook up with people I meet on nights out”
Me (playfully). “Hey, I don’t just exist at night. I have a hobbies and a life. I’m a real person ya know”
HBShort: “That’s not what I’m saying. Hey you can still get lit with us!”

I wish them well and go downstairs, when they head to the upstairs dancefloor. I see them twice more -once talking to two dudes (who I later saw without them). And then again going crazy on the dancefloor.

Obviously kind of disappointing. I know the vibe shifted after I left for the bathroom but curious what you guys would have done in response to her rejecting the first compliance demand/how you would have handled the fact that HBBlonde kept coming back.
 

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Tribal Elder
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Yo! I went out alone on Saturday. Inside the venue, as I’m walking to the bar to grab a drink, I see two girls coming the opposite way. Both look young, early 20s. One is a short beautiful brunette in a tight black top with shoulder length hair (HBShort), the one behind is a hot blonde (HBBlonde) with a ponytail. HBBlonde is dancing and vibing.

As I walk past I open the blonde



I start mimicking the dance she’s doing. She’s laughing at thanking me. HBShort looks back at starts smiling. I walk past making a note to come back and reengage.

I come back, notice them both and go “Hey”

They’re beaming.



I immediately go right up in between them (like, no distance between us) and start shaking my hips

HBShort is smiling. I tell her she has a beautiful smile.



Details are a bit fuzzy, but I’m mainly talking to the HBShort. They're both incredibly attractive but I'm more drawn to her. She then tells me HBBlondes name. I pull HBBlonde in and give her a big kiss on the cheek.



(Yes, I actually brought up ChatGPT. I've been spending a lot of time playing with it over the last month. And yes, she actually said this. I was surprised as well.)

At this point we’re essentially right up in each others space, lots of touching. HBBlonde leaves us alone and goes up to some other dudes. HBShort asks me what I do.



She’s smiling and laughing. I correctly guess that she's in the medical field (she's a nurse). I qualify her saying that she must care about people then, and that that's sexy.

At some point I suggest getting a drink but she declines.

HBBlonde comes back. Don’t handle the compliance rejection well so unsure what to do. I want to progress the energy somehow but feel like I’m stalling out. The vibe seems likes it’s changed with HBShort. Less touching, more formal.

I’m sort of hanging there at this point and feel like a bit of a drag at this point so I start dancing and move away slightly on my own (still in close proximity to them) then come back.



It would have been funny to say “How else am I going to get the threesome” and laughed at their reaction.



I need time to think, so say I’m heading to the bathroom.



Before I leave I have them both in front of me (don’t remember what happened).



I go to the toilet and come back. On the way I notice tons of girls looking at me and smiling. Even guys are. Preselection at work – these two were arguably two of the most beautiful girls in the club and from an outsiders view they were all over me (even though in reality there wasn't much compliance. Reactions vs results eh)

When I come back, both of them are talking to two black dudes. I decide to leave it and wait until that ends (the black dudes aren’t doing anything it looks like), but when they move further away, I decide to just go in.



She goes back to talking with the black dude. HBShort is half engaged with the other dude and not paying me as much attention. But I deliberately start looking bored and looking away, around the room. Sure enough, she comes up to me smiling.

She asks me where I live. I tell her, she tells me. I tease her about how far away it is. She’s staying with HBBlonde in the city tonight (they were celebrating HBBlonde being back as she’s a flight attendant). At some point she starts shaking her hips.



She looked annoyed when I said this. Maybe it showed I didn't get it (all women are sexual and I should have known she had that side and not been surprised yada yada). I don't know.

Once again HBBlonde comes back. I tell them “lets go get a drink!” They decline. I say I'm going to get one myself (actually I just grab a water and lime. Should note I've only had two at this point and am almost fully sober.

I come back and go right up to HBShort. “I’m going to pick you up”. Kinda retarded but whatever. I felt like doing it. I wanted to just try this, always wanted to pick a girl up in a club and spin her around.

I then lift her up and spin her around a couple times.

HBBlonde looks a bit concerned and comes over. HBShort laughs and tells me that I was struggling. We joke about gym etc.

The vibe just continued to die though. HBBlonde kept coming back, I felt like a third wheel and they’d declined my compliance requests to grab a drink. So again, I went to chill with the dude I'd met at the bar previously (nearby), and some other girl came up to us. I started chatting to her (in sight of HBShort and HBBlonde). HBBlonde was whispering something in HBShorts ear.

They left.

I go upstairs to check out the other dance floor. As I’m coming back, they’re coming the opposite direction.



I ask them if they’re leaving. They say no, just checking out upstairs. At this point I feel it’s dead. Nevertheless, I just go for the number anyway.



I wish them well and go downstairs, when they head to the upstairs dancefloor. I see them twice more -once talking to two dudes (who I later saw without them). And then again going crazy on the dancefloor.

Obviously kind of disappointing. I know the vibe shifted after I left for the bathroom but curious what you guys would have done in response to her rejecting the first compliance demand/how you would have handled the fact that HBBlonde kept coming back.
yeah usually that is normal on how interactions go, you go come back then leave come back, that is how mine gone sometimes, but i would have stayed in set longer and do something i call a hub, so i keep does 2 girls in my hub, then i periodically come out and game then come back to the hub, but i only do this if i got nothing, it seems one of the girls was game but you never escalated the vibe??? you do need to buy anybody drinks, just excuse yourself get your drink and come back, you can be like you guys want anything? but is not necessary i rather not to buy anyone drinks unless i am escalating and she is receptive to my sexual escalation for isolation (but in your case no needed since 2 girls unless 1 girls was being game).... what you do is you have a bubble with one girl, but again you did not escalate (touch or sex talk) in other words you had social frame, and emotional frame, missing sexual frame (referring to gunwitch 3 keys for illustration)....

I also don't like the way you go for numbers, the way i go for number is 100% issue free.... I grab her phone and say let me give you my number, she gets her phone (compliance), she hands me her phone (compliance), i put my name and contact down then i call myself as miss call, then i text myself from her phone.... "who is that good looking guy you are talking to?"
 

Beam

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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yeah usually that is normal on how interactions go, you go come back then leave come back, that is how mine gone sometimes, but i would have stayed in set longer and do something i call a hub, so i keep does 2 girls in my hub, then i periodically come out and game then come back to the hub, but i only do this if i got nothing, it seems one of the girls was game but you never escalated the vibe??? you do need to buy anybody drinks, just excuse yourself get your drink and come back, you can be like you guys want anything? but is not necessary i rather not to buy anyone drinks unless i am escalating and she is receptive to my sexual escalation for isolation (but in your case no needed since 2 girls unless 1 girls was being game).... what you do is you have a bubble with one girl, but again you did not escalate (touch or sex talk) in other words you had social frame, and emotional frame, missing sexual frame (referring to gunwitch 3 keys for illustration)....

We were almost each others arms at one point, after I had the male stripper conversation. So there was some touch. But still some distance. Maybe I should have demonstrated a routine on her then and there and used to it really get even closer. Also on the drinks, I wasn't going to buy them for them. Also when I said that she asked if I was going to buy her one. I said "hmm, maybe later, if you behave" which she laughed at.

I also don't like the way you go for numbers, the way i go for number is 100% issue free.... I grab her phone and say let me give you my number, she gets her phone (compliance), she hands me her phone (compliance), i put my name and contact down then i call myself as miss call, then i text myself from her phone.... "who is that good looking guy you are talking to?"

Yeah I've seen you mention this a couple times. Didn't think of it at the time!
 
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mist

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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imo reading this after my own fuck up I'd say

"Twos a Team, Three's a party."

Their behavior was obviously seeking a hookup and something spicy.

I don't agree with the threesome joke necessarily but by working em both you probably wouldn't have lost out as much.

The Blonde seems to have autorejected and sadly for you she seems to have had a bit more sway on the brunette than you did.

They were both hot and into you/decent compliance so leading them both could have made you a very happy man.

Is this a FU?

not imo

+1 with skills

You didn't get sexual. Hindsight is a bitch and you can see their behavior I know because the things you wrote tell me your mind notices women's pussy cravings...

I get in my own way and you did to soldier but at ease

You'll meet another and be a better leader for it.

Happy you had a fun night outside of this too

that's important
 
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