Becoming sexier and more attractive is making things harder, not easier

[Brassfaced_Jim]

So to me Leader Of Men /Doninant male is the #1 ‘switch’ to trigger for me to get Hotter girls. I levelled up in quality pretty much only changing to that. And I see that trait massively in all the guys I know who are interesting and attractive to many chicks.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

So following on again ,to me , it’s not so much a “knock her off the pedestral’ because if she Hot it won’t phase her. She’ll admire it. It’s more of a “Display” of my dominant traits.
It’s quite hard for me tho , as I was a classic introverted kid and a ‘nice guy’ in my teens and early 20s up to my late 20s actually, so I need to psyche myself out to raise my T levels appropriately. That’s my whole theorising of it. And I’ve pulled some chicks I that would not have played with me before then.

keep them is another matter entirely tho.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Still spitballing here .. this is something else you should defs work into the interaction with your face.

the “shit eating grin” I believe it’s called
A superior smug smile of “ that line was good wasn’t it ? “ Or “ Im the shit and don’t act like you’re not impressed”

Examples of ;
(Tony Soprano has a great obe

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mystery mentioned this in his book or it was in The Game by Strauss. Mystery /Erik has a good one also.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Another one would be the one eyebrow raise skeptical look of “are u kidding me? “ or “ gimme a break with this BS”

the most effective non verbal opener of all time is the double eyebrow flash.
A good funny experiment with this would be when ur driving and in traffic. Pull up to the lights next to a car with a woman in it .. if she looks over and makes EC - do the eyebrow raise and pursed lips Zoolander type sexy face , followed by the double eyebrow flash like this guy. Hilarious!
She will understand exactly the communication and probably laugh as it will be a surprise .
then u just drive off . Too easy!
All good fun to mess with.

https://gifer.com/fr/1ujH

 

[Dark_Stallion]

Tried to be more sexual out last night, really hot girl I approached, ran kino all over her, made excuses to grab and hold hands, she was comfortable tucking her hair behind her ear, at one point I lightly poked her boob when mentioning something “from the heart”,

Even told her I wanted to do something but it’s too soon, she knew I wanted to kiss her, felt too soon for her(not enough isolation) but she still seemed flirty and receptive at my forwardness.

 

[Dark_Stallion]

Tried to be more sexual out last night, really hot girl I approached, ran kino all over her, made excuses to grab and hold hands, she was comfortable tucking her hair behind her ear, at one point I lightly poked her boob when mentioning something “from the heart”,

Even told her I wanted to do something but it’s too soon, she knew I wanted to kiss her, felt too soon for her(not enough isolation) but she still seemed flirty and receptive at my forwardness.

The girl ended up unfollowing me on instagram today, but looking back yesterday, after all of my sexual advances, she was still standing there, keeping the distance or space closed between us

Is what I did overkill or am I on the right track?

Would have gone into sex talk, but it’s a meet market venue bar where you can’t really hear the other person

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

The girl ended up unfollowing me on instagram today, but looking back yesterday, after all of my sexual advances, she was still standing there, keeping the distance or space closed between us

Is what I did overkill or am I on the right track?

Would have gone into sex talk, but it’s a meet market venue bar where you can’t really hear the other person

R the approach Well done on the kino that’s ballsy.

yeah maybe pull it back .
That’s a bit strange re the unfollow. May suggest she felt u may be a creep or something (?) maybe it was a bit too soon and she hasn’t signalled back she liked you firstly .

But,,, Yknow even if it’s a fail , it’s good to get into the habit of touching hot chicks where u can. At least it shows a guy is not afraid.
And she may tell another chick “ew he was so handsy” .. a chick who likes the look of you more and may think “ I’d like that”.

Maybe do a touch on the arm and let linger and work on your eye contract and face signals. The move it up in notches to an up and down body scan. (Let her catch u) and maybe another small innocuous touch somehow) then just keep watching her signals back for as long as u can stretch the interaction. Look for BL signs/signals her body is relaxing or if she’s showing it off somehow. Some chicks need a bit more comfort /fluff talk first. If she disengages then she doesn’t feel attraction and then that’s the end. But it’s not a “fail” of method. You’re just not her type. And how out gracefully. No harm no foul.

funny story from yesterday.(Saturday)
I bought a shmick new brown leather jacket on Friday and felt like sexy dude in it sat all dressed up. so headed to the city w intention to run some day approaches on some hotties to dust off some rust. I was eager to experiment with some flattery stuff as I’ve been posting it here.

I met a friend hadn’t seen for a while . We hit a Lounge I used to frequent doing pickup but it was a sausage fest I didn’t manage much interactions. We walked around the main shopping street and library green but between all the talk and laughs catching up with my buddy I didn’t do much opening. (Grrr) anyway, we went out to some bars later but all dead (very cold last nite ) so we ended up in a Strip Joint he’d been hanging out low key during the week and talking to all the girls. It was early and also very quiet.

there were only 2 girls. The first named Kendra came up and she knew my buddy from last visit, he opened the convo. she was very hot. Like a Maxim cover girl Nordic blonde. Very cute face and massive fake tits dressed up in a teddy and high heels.
Hourglass body and good ass.
She was towering up at about 6’ tall .
(Taller than me standing at bar,

Two of us either side and her standing between us.
When I could cut in the convo I made sure after a quick introduction to look her square in the eyes and say “ can I tell you something ? You are so amazingly-dazzlingly-GORGEOUS” and after her reply keep at it with “no, but seriously u are so CUTE tho”

I managed some little teasing about her height, “how tall are you without the heels ? “ 5’7” “ no way lol that’s funny.. ur standing over me wearing 6 inch heels haha that’s girl-game that is haha “blah blah.
She half knelt down to show us her real height . She tiny! Haha.

And touched her arm a few times during the interaction. I have to say tho as my friend was talking to her for a good few mins , as I stood there observing her , I felt my body slowly turning to concrete from the effects of her looks. It was a battle!
Women’s looks have a powerful effect.

we left, ate some food and came back an hour later.
A 2nd chick Sophie was sitting in a booth, saw us entering and approached us at bar,
She was cute faced and super busty but not the body of Kendra.
Anyways with her, I feel got some good stuff in, did the same flattery lines but really laid it on thick and got loads of strong face to face eye contact in, I was zooming in and out and she was doing all her best stripper /movie star style OTT flirting back. Making lots of orgasm open mouth “ooohs” was quite funny.
At various points I had my nose in her neck to “smell her sweet perfume”, my head resting on her massive rack, (ohhh mommy! I said), role player me as a student and her the headmistress, hand around her waist ,rubbing her arms.
all the whole giving her a LOT of locked in ‘face to face time’ eye contact, looking at her lips and zooming in and out with “ I can’t help it/ u have this effect on me/ stop / we shouldn’t /ur working!/ ur seducing me / stop pushing those big juicy MELONS in my face! “ blah blah and much as I could improv, I told her she looked like a ‘Bond Girl ‘quite a lot too. (She did

Was quite a laugh.
We sat in a booth and I stroked her pull ups stockings a few times. She asked me for a lap dance twice but I time delayed. I asked her HEAPS of stuff about Online Dating, how shit it is (she agreed) /how and when she uses it and who she swipes on/ and a big story from her about her worst date experience.
In the end I did not take a lap dance, I made an excuse to extract myself from the booth and joined my friend outside for a smoke. Then we just left.

is that “game?” IDK but I got her interest to some degree and it was super fun practice, she got some big laughs from me and nice versa. It’s be a fun pass the time type interaction for me as if was dead in the club,

I did notice all the other punters (about 5 dudes were all frozen solid standing with the chicks and all nervous and shy) so I was happy I did the opposite and got some practice in.

Bye bye my sweet Sophie! Haha

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Oh and I pumped her for LOADS of valuable info about Online Dating.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

So in summary of behaviours -the first chick Kendra was super cute faced , hotter and bit of an ice queen , nose in the air a little bit, and not giving out too much eye contact w me / cutting off and turning head to the side and looking in the mirror behind me, regarding her sexy self in it.

the second chick sophie was good faced , but more mid and curvy. And back from a break of work she said.

one theory I read was “ treat the premiums as discounts and the discounts as premiums”

So with a chick like Kendra I’d want to bust her down a bit, tease her height as being fake (heels) neg a bit etc to make her get “real”.

with the Sophie mid chick I’d want to pump her up a bit like I did . With the “omg ur having such an effect on me with ur looks blah blah”.

of course I’d prefer Kendra she was banging hot.

either way it was a strip club lol,
But strippers can be seduced also I’m sure .(never managed it myself in honesty but haven’t tried or experimented w it enough not sure)

that’s my take on it.
In a real club , all the chicks are dolled up, all think they hot shit so maybe Neg them all (?) is the best way to go. iDK

 

[Dark_Stallion]

R the approach Well done on the kino that’s ballsy.

yeah maybe pull it back .
That’s a bit strange re the unfollow. May suggest she felt u may be a creep or something (?) maybe it was a bit too soon and she hasn’t signalled back she liked you firstly .

I was thinking the unfollow was her backwards rationalizing against me, she didn’t seem creeped out, she was comfortable with my touch, and I told her some things I wanted to do with her, “but it was too soon, the wrong venue” my words, and she said she respected my efforts to be calibrated to the venue and the vibe.

When talking about making out, she said it was “too early” which I took as a sign to build more comfort and a bit of time before going in, and a bit more isolation.

In all fairness, the tit poke might have been a bit too much, she started covering them up a bit, I just fractionated out and went to other topics, didn’t spend any more time near her tits. She didn’t verbalize any concerns though.

But,,, Yknow even if it’s a fail , it’s good to get into the habit of touching hot chicks where u can. At least it shows a guy is not afraid.
And she may tell another chick “ew he was so handsy” .. a chick who likes the look of you more and may think “ I’d like that”.

Hmm maybe only thing is I’m an average male Indian, with stubble, good hair and good lean build who’s attracted to white chicks(the more southern European ones, think Italian, Spanish, Turkish, around that area) and Hispanics. I know there are Indian guys that clean up with those types of women but let’s be real me approaching Indian chicks would be way easier, not worthwhile to me tho, very little attraction from my part.

Girl from yesterday was a blonde, pretty attractive girl who studied in Arkansas, I’ve never been there, maybe she doesn’t meet guys of my look, no matter how attracted she may have been.

Maybe do a touch on the arm and let linger and work on your eye contract and face signals. The move it up in notches to an up and down body scan. (Let her catch u) and maybe another small innocuous touch somehow) then just keep watching her signals back for as long as u can stretch the interaction. Look for BL signs/signals her body is relaxing or if she’s showing it off somehow. Some chicks need a bit more comfort /fluff talk first. If she disengages then she doesn’t feel attraction and then that’s the end. But it’s not a “fail” of method. You’re just not her type. And how out gracefully. No harm no foul.

I started with lighter touch, she seemed comfortable letting me touch her hands and arms, I doubt this chick wanted as much comfort, she tried to get me to buy her shots, which I refused, her still staying there with me I took as a sign of interest in me, rather than my wallet.

Maybe I’m not her type, tbh she’s not my ideal type, can’t lie she was pretty attractive.

I hear how “mid white guys” are these girls types, but tbh most of the mid white guys approaching her and her friend struck out, imo I was the only one running enough game to have a chance. Could just be arrogance coming out of me though.

funny story from yesterday.(Saturday)
I bought a shmick new brown leather jacket on Friday and felt like sexy dude in it sat all dressed up. so headed to the city w intention to run some day approaches on some hotties to dust off some rust. I was eager to experiment with some flattery stuff as I’ve been posting it here.

I met a friend hadn’t seen for a while . We hit a Lounge I used to frequent doing pickup but it was a sausage fest I didn’t manage much interactions. We walked around the main shopping street and library green but between all the talk and laughs catching up with my buddy I didn’t do much opening. (Grrr) anyway, we went out to some bars later but all dead (very cold last nite ) so we ended up in a Strip Joint he’d been hanging out low key during the week and talking to all the girls. It was early and also very quiet.

there were only 2 girls. The first named Kendra came up and she knew my buddy from last visit, he opened the convo. she was very hot. Like a Maxim cover girl Nordic blonde. Very cute face and massive fake tits dressed up in a teddy and high heels.
Hourglass body and good ass.
She was towering up at about 6’ tall .
(Taller than me standing at bar,

Two of us either side and her standing between us.
When I could cut in the convo I made sure after a quick introduction to look her square in the eyes and say “ can I tell you something ? You are so amazingly-dazzlingly-GORGEOUS” and after her reply keep at it with “no, but seriously u are so CUTE tho”

I managed some little teasing about her height, “how tall are you without the heels ? “ 5’7” “ no way lol that’s funny.. ur standing over me wearing 6 inch heels haha that’s girl-game that is haha “blah blah.
She half knelt down to show us her real height . She tiny! Haha.

And touched her arm a few times during the interaction. I have to say tho as my friend was talking to her for a good few mins , as I stood there observing her , I felt my body slowly turning to concrete from the effects of her looks. It was a battle!
Women’s looks have a powerful effect.

we left, ate some food and came back an hour later.
A 2nd chick Sophie was sitting in a booth, saw us entering and approached us at bar,
She was cute faced and super busty but not the body of Kendra.
Anyways with her, I feel got some good stuff in, did the same flattery lines but really laid it on thick and got loads of strong face to face eye contact in, I was zooming in and out and she was doing all her best stripper /movie star style OTT flirting back. Making lots of orgasm open mouth “ooohs” was quite funny.
At various points I had my nose in her neck to “smell her sweet perfume”, my head resting on her massive rack, (ohhh mommy! I said), role player me as a student and her the headmistress, hand around her waist ,rubbing her arms.
all the whole giving her a LOT of locked in ‘face to face time’ eye contact, looking at her lips and zooming in and out with “ I can’t help it/ u have this effect on me/ stop / we shouldn’t /ur working!/ ur seducing me / stop pushing those big juicy MELONS in my face! “ blah blah and much as I could improv, I told her she looked like a ‘Bond Girl ‘quite a lot too. (She did

Was quite a laugh.
We sat in a booth and I stroked her pull ups stockings a few times. She asked me for a lap dance twice but I time delayed. I asked her HEAPS of stuff about Online Dating, how shit it is (she agreed) /how and when she uses it and who she swipes on/ and a big story from her about her worst date experience.
In the end I did not take a lap dance, I made an excuse to extract myself from the booth and joined my friend outside for a smoke. Then we just left.

is that “game?” IDK but I got her interest to some degree and it was super fun practice, she got some big laughs from me and nice versa. It’s be a fun pass the time type interaction for me as if was dead in the club,

I did notice all the other punters (about 5 dudes were all frozen solid standing with the chicks and all nervous and shy) so I was happy I did the opposite and got some practice in.

Bye bye my sweet Sophie! Haha

Haha nice love to hear outings like this, tbh I think one of the best things I can do for my seduction skills is to move cities, I do go back to university in a week, so more daygame and nightgame opportunities. Plus I can run night street game, tbh seems really straightforward.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I reckon strip clubs would be a great training ground for guys to practice the basics of eye contact and holding steady face to face contact. I watched the other punters there , shy guys mostly. They broke EC a lot and looked down and generally nervous.

I read somewhere if someone finds another desirable / attractive the pupils of the eyes dilate ( get bigger ) to take in more visual info about the person. It can be seen if you look closely enough. So I make sure I am giving Hypno eyes or Hannibal Lector (lol) eye contact as much as possible to try look for it in the chicks eyes.
I turn on the “Manson Lamps” haha. Borderline serialI

“ it’s all in eyes” is an old , old saying about attraction and Love etc .
“ a twinkle in the eye” is another.

I believe that to be true and that’s what it means.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

That’s some good eye contact and a nice shit eating grin right there !! lol,

but for real, that’s the goal for me.
I am DYING to drop this line on a chick in a pickup

“A hot chick tried to test me once…

I ate .her VAGINA with some nice fava beans and a nice Chianti…
Sssffffffttttt! “

lmao

 

[Dark_Stallion]

That’s some good eye contact and a nice shit eating grin right there !! lol,

but for real, that’s the goal for me.
I am DYING to drop this line on a chick in a pickup

“A hot chick tried to test me once…

I ate .her VAGINA with some nice fava beans and a nice Chianti…
Sssffffffttttt! “

lmao

Haha lmk if you ever do, the girl I talked to yesterday my opening line was “you stole my outfit for the night”

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I was thinking the unfollow was her backwards rationalizing against me, she didn’t seem creeped out, she was comfortable with my touch, and I told her some things I wanted to do with her, “but it was too soon, the wrong venue” my words, and she said she respected my efforts to be calibrated to the venue and the vibe.

When talking about making out, she said it was “too early” which I took as a sign to build more comfort and a bit of time before going in, and a bit more isolation.

In all fairness, the tit poke might have been a bit too much, she started covering them up a bit, I just fractionated out and went to other topics, didn’t spend any more time near her tits. She didn’t verbalize any concerns though.

Hmm maybe only thing is I’m an average male Indian, with stubble, good hair and good lean build who’s attracted to white chicks(the more southern European ones, think Italian, Spanish, Turkish, around that area) and Hispanics. I know there are Indian guys that clean up with those types of women but let’s be real me approaching Indian chicks would be way easier, not worthwhile to me tho, very little attraction from my part.

yeah she was pushing back so.. there was too much escalation/ too early for her liking. And the fit poke obvs didn’t go down well. Hmmm

maybe hang back on the kino then .
I need to calibrate my thing too tbh.. OTT flattery is good and a rush for me , but it’s all push and can fizzle out .. unless I’m better looking than the chick and she’s game off the bat. But I don’t want those chicks in fairness. Hmmm.

maybe for you going as Mr Foreign / mysterious stranger is better (?) some chicks have that fantasy. Where you put out the vibe in spades with EC and Body Language but hang bud and talk more slowly. I’m living abroad from my own country (UK) when I meet chicks from UK I pretend I’m foreign. Put on an accent and talk slower like my English is not that good. That can work. Builds a lot of sexual tension holding EC but talking slower and pacing more, it’s more ..exotic or something,

 

[Dark_Stallion]

yeah she was pushing back so.. there was too much escalation/ too early for her liking. And the fit poke obvs didn’t go down well. Hmmm

She was pushing back on the poke, she said it was too soon for the makeout, but I never tried to makeout with her, framed her as the one wanting to make out with me if anything. Usually if I do that and they don’t run away I can go for it in a bit and it always works.

She was comfortable with my other touch, hand holding, etc.

I still probably need to tone it down a tad, though I was trying to be over the top extra

maybe hang back on the kino then .
I need to calibrate my thing too tbh.. OTT flattery is good and a rush for me , but it’s all push and can fizzle out .. unless I’m better looking than the chick and she’s game off the bat. But I don’t want those chicks in fairness. Hmmm.

Yeah, maybe a little calibration is needed, tbh I probably won’t hang back a bit too much, but I might save some of the more outlandish stuff for later

maybe for you going as Mr Foreign / mysterious stranger is better (?) some chicks have that fantasy. Where you put out the vibe in spades with EC and Body Language but hang bud and talk more slowly. I’m living abroad from my own country (UK) when I meet chicks from UK I pretend I’m foreign. Put on an accent and talk slower like my English is not that good. That can work. Builds a lot of sexual tension holding EC but talking slower and pacing more, it’s more ..exotic or something,

I’m born and raised in America, living there right now, when I lived in Rome, game was much easier, I think there were more chicks open to “Mr foreign” even with American chicks living there

Also I have been mistaken for spanish/italian before trying to lean more into that, Italian guys are very direct, I should know I was friends with a bunch of them

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Haha lmk if you ever do, the girl I talked to yesterday my opening line was “you stole my outfit for the night”

What was she wearing tho?
Yeah that’s a good opener as it’s teasing.
Teasing always good,

I liked my teasing on the hot stripper last night re her height. “Wait, How TALL are you? “ she immediately knew what I meant re her heels and said she’s really short only 5’7” and did a little bend down to show us her real height without the big heel lift, “nice compliance display” I thought at the time, I ought to have kept teasing/ negging her,
“ I like ur hair ! Is that ur REAL hair? Oh well it’s nice anyway “ (mysterys line). Etc etc
Or tell her she had lipstick on her teeth,

The more I spitball here the more I’m thinking teasing and negging are key now not the flattery IDK
Depends if the chick is Hot or Mid I spose.
Hot ones .. yeah good to bust them down a bit .. crack the bitch shield and hopefully get behind it , she’d be more inclined to qualify herself then perhaps.

I enjoyed my interaction with the mid one though . It was hilarious . But just flirting , which is a false indicator half the time, chicks like to just practice that. Half the time I do it , it can fall flat after that. If I don’t move into another emotion like a qualifying thing , or something more “ Real”.

 

[Dark_Stallion]

What was she wearing tho?
Yeah that’s a good opener as it’s teasing.
Teasing always good,

Love this one, only if I’m feeling it, she was wearing jeans and a top no guy would ever wear

I liked my teasing on the hot stripper last night re her height. “Wait, How TALL are you? “ she immediately knew what I meant re her heels and said she’s really short only 5’7” and did a little bend down to show us her real height without the big heel lift, “nice compliance display” I thought at the time, I ought to have kept teasing/ negging her,
“ I like ur hair ! Is that ur REAL hair? Oh well it’s nice anyway “ (mysterys line). Etc etc
Or tell her she had lipstick on her teeth,

The more I spitball here the more I’m thinking teasing and negging are key now not the flattery IDK
Depends if the chick is Hot or Mid I spose.
Hot ones .. yeah good to bust them down a bit .. crack the bitch shield and hopefully get behind it , she’d be more inclined to qualify herself then perhaps.

I like a good mix of both, if she’s acting a bit superior, then neg/bust her balls, if she’s feeling a bit low/lower value/nervous build her up in a way

I enjoyed my interaction with the mid one though . It was hilarious . But just flirting , which is a false indicator half the time, chicks like to just practice that. Half the time I do it , it can fall flat after that. If I don’t move into another emotion like a qualifying thing , or something more “ Real”.

Sometimes you gotta flirt just to flirt, even I like to do it(sometimes) more so as a warm up

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

She was pushing back on the poke, she said it was too soon for the makeout, but I never tried to makeout with her, framed her as the one wanting to make out with me if anything. Usually if I do that and they don’t run away I can go for it in a bit and it always works.

She was comfortable with my other touch, hand holding, etc.

I still probably need to tone it down a tad, though I was trying to be over the top extra

Yeah, maybe a little calibration is needed, tbh I probably won’t hang back a bit too much, but I might save some of the more outlandish stuff for later

I’m born and raised in America, living there right now, when I lived in Rome, game was much easier, I think there were more chicks open to “Mr foreign” even with American chicks living there

Also I have been mistaken for spanish/italian before trying to lean more into that, Italian guys are very direct, I should know I was friends with a bunch of them

Oh that’s good experience re the Italian guys, I’m friends with an Italian dude here he does it all with his eyes and indirect talk as far as I recall. He always laughed at my wacky OTT sfuff when we used to go out picking up.

What kinda stuff do the Italian dudes say Do they flatter chicks or ?
Do they live up to the big rep as good seducers?

man I’d love to go to Italy France and also Brazil and learn some good shit from dudes with great game. They are the ‘homes’ of seduction in my eyes. Afaik.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I’ve done some good pickups back in the day. But I was drinking back then. Wish I’d written down or kept a record of what I did,
I started with Mystery Method tho.. so should be some form of that.

One in particular I did a lot of hot and cold/ push and pull with a type of chick I used to think was out of my league before then. She remarked to me (and I’ll never forget ) “best. Foreplay. Ever.” Re my skillz w her that night.

I defs remember starting with not too much flirting at all.. hanging back on the makeout for most of the interaction , flirting in and out like I was gonna kiss her and then then turning my cheek etc lots of delayed gratification stuff, lots of building anticipation and then “no we shouldn’t “ sexual teasing stuff , and both us of dancing. It really raised her buying temperature as MM put it.

We ended up taxi back to my shitty sharehouse , she stripped off and had a banging body and best of all surprise big fake tits . Dunno why it was a surprise but it was a welcome one .lol.

anyway, I fucked her.. but with these tits and the body I did not set a world record of length of time. I think she was a bit disappointed . I did not get repeat business from her for a good while until I took her out for a live music gig one night. Then laid again. And again did not perform up to snuff. Shame.

between you and me here I’ll say nowadays I oft take half a viagra pill if I think it’s on for a lay. To make sure I give them “the good one “ and fuck their brains out every which way to ensure Cumz.
always get repeats that way! Lol

 

[Dark_Stallion]

Oh that’s good experience re the Italian guys, I’m friends with an Italian dude here he does it all with his eyes and indirect talk as far as I recall. He always laughed at my wacky OTT sfuff when we used to go out picking up.

Question what does OTT stand for?

The better Italian playboys are really smooth, though girls complain a lot about Italian men being “crazy” and “creepy”

What kinda stuff do the Italian dudes say Do they flatter chicks or ?
Do they live up to the big rep as good seducers?

Haven’t really seen as much of infield action, don’t see the Italian women in clubs hooking up, Italian men that I knew all have very attractive gfs tho

One club incident stood out to me, one Italian dude was complaining about how hard Italian women are, asked me to put him on an American girl.

Girl I know from class came up to me(not cute at all) and I put the Italian dude on her, they started making out in 2 mins, that was all that happened.

man I’d love to go to Italy France and also Brazil and learn some good shit from dudes with great game. They are the ‘homes’ of seduction in my eyes. Afaik.

Yes, want to go back, not to France but the other 2