Becoming sexier and more attractive is making things harder, not easier

[Dark_Stallion]

I’ve done some good pickups back in the day. But I was drinking back then. Wish I’d written down or kept a record of what I did,
I started with Mystery Method tho.. so should be some form of that.

I’ve cut down drinking, hate the way I feel the next day, not with hangovers and shit, I just tend to feel more shit about not picking up, unregulated emptions

One in particular I did a lot of hot and cold/ push and pull with a type of chick I used to think was out of my league before then. She remarked to me (and I’ll never forget ) “best. Foreplay. Ever.” Re my skillz w her that night.

Love that! Tbh I don’t think of any chick out of my league, unless she is extremely accomplished in some way(think multi multi millionaire, a list actress).

I defs remember starting with not too much flirting at all.. hanging back on the makeout for most of the interaction , flirting in and out like I was gonna kiss her and then then turning my cheek etc lots of delayed gratification stuff, lots of building anticipation and then “no we shouldn’t “ sexual teasing stuff , and both us of dancing. It really raised her buying temperature as MM put it.

Hmm I will try that, I got new venues to try for gaming purposes, and can start more daygame.

We ended up taxi back to my shitty sharehouse , she stripped off and had a banging body and best of all surprise big fake tits . Dunno why it was a surprise but it was a welcome one .lol.

anyway, I fucked her.. but with these tits and the body I did not set a world record of length of time. I think she was a bit disappointed . I did not get repeat business from her for a good while until I took her out for a live music gig one night. Then laid again. And again did not perform up to snuff. Shame.

between you and me here I’ll say nowadays I oft take half a viagra pill if I think it’s on for a lay. To make sure I give them “the good one “ and fuck their brains out every which way to ensure Cumz.
always get repeats that way! Lol

Haha, I’m not at that age, maybe when I reach mid 30’s, long way away tho

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I’ve read some pickup stuff ( and general knowledge of lays would confirm this.)

that Yknow chicks go out to pickup that’s their main agenda (a % of them )
So when they are interacting with a guy her main interest is sussing out is he a good lay , so showing indicators of this is a good idea .. keeping composure throughout , not getting too exited and “blowing the load” with nervousness or strange talk and keeping that steady grounded sexual vibe underneath . Anything that indicates lack of fear , relaxed and comfortable and “restraint” I suppose . So I indicate I can go the distance in the sack and get her off. It’d be worth it for her to take the time to go home w /me That night. Solid unwavering eye contact.

My Italian friend has that . His eye contact is super dominant unwavering, even tho he’s not an “alpha “ dominant dude. He just has great eye contact and quite big eyes too which helps him. I hang shit on him that he looks like Homer Simpson with his big eyes.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I’ve cut down drinking, hate the way I feel the next day, not with hangovers and shit, I just tend to feel more shit about not picking up, unregulated emptions

Love that! Tbh I don’t think of any chick out of my league, unless she is extremely accomplished in some way(think multi multi millionaire, a list actress).

Hmm I will try that, I got new venues to try for gaming purposes, and can start more daygame.

Haha, I’m not at that age, maybe when I reach mid 30’s, long way away tho

Haha yeah I’m mid 40s now.
I don’t need it for ED . But it gives rock hardness for about 3 -4 hours. So after she has her fun then I have mine. Then she has more funz as many as she wants

yeah , funny how that league stuff dissapates after a few experiences and lays .i can still talk myself out of an approach with that shit. Must beat that out , defs does not help in any way.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Question what does OTT stand for?

Question what does OTT stand for?

The better Italian playboys are really smooth, though girls complain a lot about Italian men being “crazy” and “creepy”

Haven’t really seen as much of infield action, don’t see the Italian women in clubs hooking up, Italian men that I knew all have very attractive gfs tho

One club incident stood out to me, one Italian dude was complaining about how hard Italian women are, asked me to put him on an American girl.

Girl I know from class came up to me(not cute at all) and I put the Italian dude on her, they started making out in 2 mins, that was all that happened.

Yes, want to go back, not to France but the other 2

OTT = Over The Top
To me OTT flattery (to me) is like giving big energy compliments but also being obviously fake/ disingenuous. Like what Russell Brand does. The chicks know he’s full of shit but they love it anyway (as he is a handsome dandy)
It’s being a “Dandy” seducer type style. Afaik.

yeah my Italian buddy sneers when he talks about chicks back home in Italy. He says they are Hard Work and want the men to buy them everything /pamper them etc.
he was a barman at a resort hotel where the Contiki tours went to . He said he banged a different English chick every night more or less. Probably 2 a day at times.
They all wanted to fuck an Italian barman .
They go to Spain and do that, and lots of Spanish barmen and waiters clean up in the holiday hotspots (lol)

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I need to work on my negging/ teasing game more and really get the hang of that.
I have some kind of internal block to that.
Like nice guy conditioning from when I was young. there’s this thought running always firstly in my head of “oh that’s not nice can’t say that” . A caring thing. But that’s stupid .
A chick at a bar or club or wherever are strangers.
Like, some chicks like their hair yanked and there asses slapped in the doggy position on a same night lay.
They can handle a few borderline insults and funny put downs. lol.

hey even, (and this is a true story) I met a quite strange and overly quiet chick off online last month. She took it up the ass on the lay that night after the date. (Surprised me)

why would I be so afraid to give out a hard neg? Prob cos it’s socially “rude” and I may get a slap (have done) a punch in the head (have done from an Irish chick) or worse a punch in the head from a dude.

more the irish chick it wasn’t even a put down. But it was sleazyish. I pulled her and her friend into me in a hug and said “ mmm sexy Sandwich !” Or somesuch,

that’s puppy dog shit!

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I think it’s the fear of negging a chick , she takes it the wrong way, gets upset tells a nearby bunch of dudes in tears (or whatever ) … then next thing I’m dealing with 3-4 angry dudes confronting me with “ wtf did u say creep we gonna BASH you!”

but then on the other hand , gotta show some balls and edge to a chick, and take risks.

It’s a god damned tight rope I tells ya!

I just have to constantly remind myself some chicks love BDSM & Kink, Dom and Sub stuff, hair pulling and spanking, and they all loved Fifty Shades Of Grey.. it was a best seller, they read romance novels and chick fuck books for this stuff,

I need to just man up., and give them what they want . lol. for real. …

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I’d love to get coaching from an actual Dom dude. These guys that do the Dom - sub thing. Or an ex pornstar dude or Male Escort. They surely would know the secrets and the vibe to put out.
Then just run all that in daygame and night game .. For The Win!

when I was on my PuA hot streak back in the day , my record was 6 lays in a week. It was a mix of Online, new chciks and chicks I was already fucking on a rotation. It was an exhausting week tbh. I also did a few back to back lays 2 in one night from online or text game . Not many but a few.

I was pretty good. I shall be again!!!

 

[Dark_Stallion]

OTT = Over The Top
To me OTT flattery (to me) is like giving big energy compliments but also being obviously fake/ disingenuous. Like what Russell Brand does. The chicks know he’s full of shit but they love it anyway (as he is a handsome dandy)
It’s being a “Dandy” seducer type style. Afaik.

Ahh ok ok imo OTT can work when intermixed with other types of negs/teases

yeah my Italian buddy sneers when he talks about chicks back home in Italy. He says they are Hard Work and want the men to buy them everything /pamper them etc.
he was a barman at a resort hotel where the Contiki tours went to . He said he banged a different English chick every night more or less. Probably 2 a day at times.
They all wanted to fuck an Italian barman .
They go to Spain and do that, and lots of Spanish barmen and waiters clean up in the holiday hotspots (lol)

Yeah, the women that travel to those counties are way easier than the women who live there. Although if you meet an Italian chick outside of Italy, she’s probably easier.

 

[Dark_Stallion]

I need to work on my negging/ teasing game more and really get the hang of that.
I have some kind of internal block to that.
Like nice guy conditioning from when I was young. there’s this thought running always firstly in my head of “oh that’s not nice can’t say that” . A caring thing. But that’s stupid .
A chick at a bar or club or wherever are strangers.
Like, some chicks like their hair yanked and there asses slapped in the doggy position on a same night lay.
They can handle a few borderline insults and funny put downs. lol.

Yeah, I think the perfect amount of negging/teasing brings their ego down to your “level” for a lack of better word, but doesn’t shatter it completely, to the point where they auto reject.

 

[Dark_Stallion]

I think it’s the fear of negging a chick , she takes it the wrong way, gets upset tells a nearby bunch of dudes in tears (or whatever ) … then next thing I’m dealing with 3-4 angry dudes confronting me with “ wtf did u say creep we gonna BASH you!”

Yeah, there’s no shortage of white knights out there, who will gladly make you the villain, and self serve for her to have a chance at a woman.

but then on the other hand , gotta show some balls and edge to a chick, and take risks.

It’s a god damned tight rope I tells ya!

I just have to constantly remind myself some chicks love BDSM & Kink, Dom and Sub stuff, hair pulling and spanking, and they all loved Fifty Shades Of Grey.. it was a best seller, they read romance novels and chick fuck books for this stuff,

I need to just man up., and give them what they want . lol. for real. …

Hmm, I do know that in theory, I just have to remind myself in the field, if I’m playing it safe, or listening to a chicks words too logically.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Yeah, there’s no shortage of white knights out there, who will gladly make you the villain, and self serve for her to have a chance at a woman.




Hmm, I do know that in theory, I just have to remind myself in the field, if I’m playing it safe, or listening to a chicks words too logically.

DS Where did u learn ur negging/ teasing sfuff can u give examples of some u do.

I’m reconsidering this OTT flattery idea now .. it’s fun , I love to do it , gives me a rush and can get me very close to a woman.. but it only lasts so long.. that’s a big push forward.. can’t remember the pull back.

thinking of this stripper I was testing stuff on last night. Kinda nullifies my theory as she is a stripper. Meh,

but I was thinking after .. after 5 minutes of push and kino shit when she wants to get me in the lap dance room and part with my sweet cash.. then I say as a pull back..

Me “oh no sorry I can’t yet”
Her “Why?”
Me “ I’m shy. I’m not ready”
Then BS on with
“ I need comfort , trust and connection first.. I need to get to know you .. blah blah”

like the chicks do to me on Online dating chats . lol.

It must be possible to pull a stripper .. some old LoverSystem coach named Fader apparently ran a bootcamp on how to do it,
I am not convinced tho,
They are too hardened to every time of game.
the promise of drugs perhaps could get them to meet me outside of the Strip Club. iDK

 

[Dark_Stallion]

DS Where did u learn ur negging/ teasing sfuff can u give examples of some u do.

Some examples are from lush teases:

“You’re a naughty girl”

“You’re just trying to trick me/get me in trouble”

Basically anything that frames her as naughty and me as innocent

I’m reconsidering this OTT flattery idea now .. it’s fun , I love to do it , gives me a rush and can get me very close to a woman.. but it only lasts so long.. that’s a big push forward.. can’t remember the pull back.

It’s fun to do once in a while, tbh I dont do it very much, unless I’m in convo with a girl few minutes in nightgame, it might be bad game though, might stop doing it.

thinking of this stripper I was testing stuff on last night. Kinda nullifies my theory as she is a stripper. Meh,

but I was thinking after .. after 5 minutes of push and kino shit when she wants to get me in the lap dance room and part with my sweet cash.. then I say as a pull back..

Me “oh no sorry I can’t yet”
Her “Why?”
Me “ I’m shy. I’m not ready”
Then BS on with
“ I need comfort , trust and connection first.. I need to get to know you .. blah blah”

like the chicks do to me on Online dating chats . lol.

It must be possible to pull a stripper .. some old LoverSystem coach named Fader apparently ran a bootcamp on how to do it,
I am not convinced tho,
They are too hardened to every time of game.
the promise of drugs perhaps could get them to meet me outside of the Strip Club. iDK

Strippers are hard to pull when they’re working, in GC article, Chase said to break out of customer frame. Tbh I don’t really go for hired guns.