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Being a fatass? Yeah being a fatass
What’s up guys; Lot of lessons I learned from this report and lot that I could share. What this one ended up being was pretty much me doing well with a girl and building her up well from the outset, her having me really attracted to me, me not responding/catering to her signs of interest and intent and capitalizing on them at the correct times, having to leave and not having her text back.
Could have titled this one an FU I suppose but counts as an FR++ too so just titled it that I guess lol. Let’s begin then?
Some Background
I blank a bit on what the exact day this happened was but it was like sometime midweek Wednesday or Thursday I believe.
Going off of my last report here, this was the day after I talked to the girl from my Spanish class on the bus. If you recall from that report (go and read that report if you haven’t
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9446) I built a nice rapport with the Spanish girl on the bus, and after that mentioned that the next day was on a date with a different girl and in her car heading towards in n out. So this report is about that girl that I was heading to in n out burger with.
If you guys don’t know what in n out burger is, pretty much it’s the addictive best fast food in California. World famous in n out burger; I’m a healthy person and don’t really like to eat out very much or eat too unhealthy on a regular basis, but I’ve still had in n out burger 1-3 times a week for the past several years… going back past that since I’ve been 8 or 9 have had it at least once every 1-1.5 months so yeah I’ve had it a lot.
Eating a burger from in n out is a lot like having sex, it feels really good you get a rush of pleasure chemicals to your brain and you may have a rather violent foodgasm or two. HAHA
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A bit on this girl; the girl on the bus I met, I vaguely recalled a natural roommate of a buddy of mine fucking her freshman year. Hadn’t really talked to her before but she looked familiar seemed to be that same girl and she was attractive so was up for it when I saw her on the bus.
Getting on the bus
So referencing a bit again from my previous report, I had gotten out of Spanish class not waited for my girl from Spanish class because she was taking a bit of time and I really do believe that there’s no attractive way to wait for a girl (and just didn’t fucking wanna wait for her anyway lol).
I headed towards the bus that leads back to the university village. This particular day I had set the goal of not approaching any women; over the last week or so had met a number of girls and had a bunch of numbers from them and dates lined up from them.
I should mention that why this happened was me beginning to do tough street approaches regularly. For me I’ve worked on my fundamentals for a long time so never had much trouble there but would feel awkward or nervous or whatever approaching girls. What helped me to get doing the toughest direct approaches and direct walking approaches was acclimating/building up to it. I began each day I went out with having warm up sets with walking girls where I would open the girl the same way I would with a direct opener (same physical manner and preopening and all that) but instead of delivering that opener I would ask a very vanilla harmless question about directions to a certain building. I would do 2 or 3 approaches like this for the start of the day, and this made following the "just see a hot girl go catch up to her meet her and open direct" approach must easier for me (majorly because it felt like a small step up from walking approach indirect/ask for directions to walking approach direct).
From doing music for many years and lifting for several years too now it occurred to me that the best musicians and lifters never train workout perform do anything really without ample warmup first. Don’t see why pickup should be any different.
Ok back to the story; so I get on the bus and I walk in and catch the girl off to the left. She’s a skinnier Latina girl with just the curves I like, attractive girl with Hispanic good looks. Thinner and IMO a tad better looking than the girl I laid from Spanish class.
I go and sit off just right bitch between her and another girl (and in my head I was like hey fucker you said you wouldn’t meet girls today what are you doing; part of this was being mostly booked for the week and short cash, but the other thing also was that I had a 1000 word essay due in 2 hours that I hadn’t started and had to go home to type up). Despite this, my habits prevailed and my autopilot kicked in; you begin doing more approaches and suddenly it becomes like okay yeah I shouldn’t meet girls right now like I really need to get some fucking work done (funny how that cycle flips).
I sit next to her the bus goes off, pause for just a second
Preopen her
Game on
Convo on the Bus
She feels like the 20th girl I’ve talked to in an intimate setting in the last week. I like how we are positioned together too.
With chica from Spanish class we had been a little apart, because I had scooted up to talk to her but couldn’t get right fucking up next to her (had been few people on the bus that day).
With this girl we were right next to each other packed pretty tightly together. From the beginning was getting a great sexual vibe from her. In the back of my mind it was there though that I need to do my paper fuck (it was due for class in 2 hours or so).
Despite this I can’t but help but love being next to his girl and talking to this girl. She’s so hot and smells so good and really hard sexual vibe I feel and am getting from her way more than I had been from Spanish girl initially (who had been more into me but more warm and interested and schoolgirl attracted and stuff… not more demure and reservedly sexy like this girl was).
Part of it too was girl from Spanish class was very talkative and a strong type. This girl is very easily a soft experienced type.
We talk. She asks me about myself and different things I do what my major is where I live, am I in clubs and stuff, a few other things. Kathy’s a more generic girl and I have far less in commnon with her than Spanish girl; but the conversation is interesting and productive.
Our conversation is completely different from my bus conversation the day before. I ask her not very much about herself, instead she asks questions I reveal tiny bits but connect with her more on what she says (large part of this is catering to an individual girl; she's a more quieter, shier less vivacious girl and bulk of what I say and do is mirroring that).
She asks me about clubs I’m in
I know she's a shy girl and connect on that level mentioning that I’d always been a bit busy with school and work and hesitant of getting into clubs case I’m shy and not too outgoing but my friend is gonna run for president and I’m gonna run as his ticket for VP and feel that it might be better to break out of my shell a bit and get a bit more involved (communicate this because I know she feels this way about herself and I’m sort of mirroring that).
I find out where she lives, what she's doing soon; she’s done with her day and invites me to get in n out with her. I got in n out twice in the same night yesterday; twice in a span of 2 hours lol… I can’t help but accept though.
Oh something interesting I noticed, at no point did I really make effort to deep dive her. Rather she was into me and just asking me questions and was connecting on her level, but all of it was layered with sexual touch and undertones so any connection too deep felt kind of ill fitted.
Off the bus, onto her car
We get off the bus. At this point we’re walking and you walk straight for a while and then later get an option to walk right towards the village or left towards the cars.
First fucking sign that I miss:
We get in her car and head towards in n out burger. From my last report, at the light see the girl from Spanish class ironically but she doesn’t see me through the window tint.
We head to in n out burger and on the way talk more and she asks me more about what I like to do for fun and going out and all that. She turns out to be a party girl somewhat, who is single by choice (meaning she sleeps with guys occasionally and isn’t your most conservative gal) and loves going to vegas wither girlfriends and kicking it in downtown section of our fair city.
Second fucking sign that I don’t capitalize on:
Some point on the way there she had asked about my roommates. And was talking about my new roommates and my freshman year ones. I tell her a bit of a story that I guess I like to tell about how my old roommates were cool but were all super virgins who couldn’t muster up the courage to talk to girls, and how my girlfriend had come over and thought my roommate was gay (rhis story serves the purpose of offhandedly mentioning a girlfriend).
Often girls that are interested here, go and directly ask “what happened” with your girlfriend; mateo talks about doing the same thing here https://www.girlschase.com/content/funda ... tline-pt-2
I tell her that it was mutual and kind of need my freedom and all that. I make a mistake here that I made sure not to make later in the week with Spanish girl because I ask
Third Fuckup:
She gets like a cheeseburger and fries
Usually in the past I’ve always just gotten ice cream or something light like subway with a girl; somehow had never had a first date to in n out and yeah figured out a big rule which was fuck your gains and don’t get heavy ass food ever or anything gross on a first outing with a girl ever.
This girl is soft spoken and more demure; she hasn’t cursed at all I think in all she’s told me and talked to me about or asked me
I order;
I tell her some retarded bull shit about how used to get that since I was a kid and used to get it cut in half cause you could dip the burgers in spread cups that they would give but they don’t give those any more but getting it cut in half makes the burger easier to eat
Whatever; it’s still not dead, and we talk about other shit, she gets separate checks, could have asked her to pay for me and gotten away with it, but didn’t and paid for my own.
We head back to the village; I have her park inside where there’s parking but if she's caught she’ll get a ticket.
So there’s time pressure from getting a ticket and time pressure from me having a class and an essay due which I haven’t started yet. Crap.
Back at my Place
Quick escalations quick leadup to sex are both things don’t have a ton of practice with yet, what with only having had my own place for a month or so now.
But this next one was pretty unforgiveable and would have been easy to do and a horrible fuckup by me.
Fourth fuckup:
She goes to wash her hands in the bathroom
I follow her in a bit later, it’s a tight bathroom really small, could have manhandle kissed her here and gotten far with it here
-_____-
She washes her hands I wash mine
I think I recall seeing a flash of anticipation/hope or something when I entered a bathroom I let her down here once again.
Fifth fuckup:
It was in my mind at sometime here that I had 30 or 40 minutes before I had to let her go before parking was gonna expire and I would have to get back to my unwritten paper and drill something out in 30 minutes and rush off to class.
I realized after the better thing would have been to repark her car far away, skip class (could have easily skipped it and turned in paper later and gotten an A effortlessly in the class still, it’s that lax of a class) and then go and do stuff.
But I made the mistake of assuming that would just get to see her again next time and close next tine when wouldn’t be rushed. That’s a horrible thing to think/assume because you should respond to the signs a women gives you right when she gives them to you and because attraction has an expiration date.
So what was the next fuckup? Eating my fucking burger
We bantered a bit the conversation was light here; it was obvious to me later that she was so ready to have sex by this point and a few points before this point but again I didn’t capitalize on it and address the signs she was giving me.
Dates should have sexual innuendo and hints mixed in; if all that’s been done already and she’s chiller and quieter during the date then she’s just ready to be pulled and escalated on and not acting on that is failing her.
This is what my burger looked like
I think I mentioned something to her about how usually when I eat my burger I don’t talk without meaning to but it just happens that way.
I eat my fucking burger its amazing and don’t talk to her while I eat for the next 7-10 minutes or so !!! …. Horrible just horrible.
I get done talk about some random bullshit with her; again here in my mind I think I’m fine and I’ll just see her again next time and seal the deal then.
She seems ok I guess? She gets done eating I take herto her quickly to her car worried that she might get a ticket (and I’d feel guilty as fuck) she doesn’t and I’m good and then she gives me a hug and I tell her we can see each other next week (we had figured out next Friday would work for both of us)
We don’t have each others numbers, I had left my phone in my room; I give her my number and tell her to text me.
She drives off.
Afterwards
Well that went fine I suppose most of me thinks… but part of me doesn’t think so part of me isn’t convinced.
Part of me knows, feels that should have tried to make a move tried to manhandle kiss or escalate cleverly or show her my room first or something… that I waited too long, didn’t respond to the multiple signs she gave me and she's not coming back and she's not gonna text me back.
I go right after that date and read this article about women’s signs https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-girls-show-interest and kick myself a couple times and become fairly certain she won’t text me back.
She doesn’t
…
I’m fine with it; part of bettering yourself and getting better at anything is being able to be all right with and learn from the failures.
Over the next couple of days when I reflect on the date and all the signs she gave me I cant help but exclaim fuck man!!! But then smile a bit after because I don’t take it too seriously or take life too seriously.
Will have more girls, more fuckups and more successes too; many more to come and eventually this will be just something I look back at and laugh at… satisfied with that, content with that and on to the next girl.
And maybe I do see this girl again on campus; which if I do (and if she’s receptive) gonna carry her over my back and run over to my room and fuck her fucking brains out.
-Gem
EDIT: Oh another sign I forgot to mention that I fucked up on (possibly the most obvious/worst one), was a bit after walking in she asked about my roommates, how many I had, and if they were there or not.
In fact I think it was the first thing she asked, I don't even recall her commenting much on the place or anything else before asking that....
Sorry to let you down mami
What’s up guys; Lot of lessons I learned from this report and lot that I could share. What this one ended up being was pretty much me doing well with a girl and building her up well from the outset, her having me really attracted to me, me not responding/catering to her signs of interest and intent and capitalizing on them at the correct times, having to leave and not having her text back.
Could have titled this one an FU I suppose but counts as an FR++ too so just titled it that I guess lol. Let’s begin then?
Some Background
I blank a bit on what the exact day this happened was but it was like sometime midweek Wednesday or Thursday I believe.
Going off of my last report here, this was the day after I talked to the girl from my Spanish class on the bus. If you recall from that report (go and read that report if you haven’t
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9446) I built a nice rapport with the Spanish girl on the bus, and after that mentioned that the next day was on a date with a different girl and in her car heading towards in n out. So this report is about that girl that I was heading to in n out burger with. If you guys don’t know what in n out burger is, pretty much it’s the addictive best fast food in California. World famous in n out burger; I’m a healthy person and don’t really like to eat out very much or eat too unhealthy on a regular basis, but I’ve still had in n out burger 1-3 times a week for the past several years… going back past that since I’ve been 8 or 9 have had it at least once every 1-1.5 months so yeah I’ve had it a lot.
Eating a burger from in n out is a lot like having sex, it feels really good you get a rush of pleasure chemicals to your brain and you may have a rather violent foodgasm or two. HAHA
...
A bit on this girl; the girl on the bus I met, I vaguely recalled a natural roommate of a buddy of mine fucking her freshman year. Hadn’t really talked to her before but she looked familiar seemed to be that same girl and she was attractive so was up for it when I saw her on the bus.
Getting on the bus
So referencing a bit again from my previous report, I had gotten out of Spanish class not waited for my girl from Spanish class because she was taking a bit of time and I really do believe that there’s no attractive way to wait for a girl (and just didn’t fucking wanna wait for her anyway lol).
I headed towards the bus that leads back to the university village. This particular day I had set the goal of not approaching any women; over the last week or so had met a number of girls and had a bunch of numbers from them and dates lined up from them.
I should mention that why this happened was me beginning to do tough street approaches regularly. For me I’ve worked on my fundamentals for a long time so never had much trouble there but would feel awkward or nervous or whatever approaching girls. What helped me to get doing the toughest direct approaches and direct walking approaches was acclimating/building up to it. I began each day I went out with having warm up sets with walking girls where I would open the girl the same way I would with a direct opener (same physical manner and preopening and all that) but instead of delivering that opener I would ask a very vanilla harmless question about directions to a certain building. I would do 2 or 3 approaches like this for the start of the day, and this made following the "just see a hot girl go catch up to her meet her and open direct" approach must easier for me (majorly because it felt like a small step up from walking approach indirect/ask for directions to walking approach direct).
From doing music for many years and lifting for several years too now it occurred to me that the best musicians and lifters never train workout perform do anything really without ample warmup first. Don’t see why pickup should be any different.
Ok back to the story; so I get on the bus and I walk in and catch the girl off to the left. She’s a skinnier Latina girl with just the curves I like, attractive girl with Hispanic good looks. Thinner and IMO a tad better looking than the girl I laid from Spanish class.
I go and sit off just right bitch between her and another girl (and in my head I was like hey fucker you said you wouldn’t meet girls today what are you doing; part of this was being mostly booked for the week and short cash, but the other thing also was that I had a 1000 word essay due in 2 hours that I hadn’t started and had to go home to type up). Despite this, my habits prevailed and my autopilot kicked in; you begin doing more approaches and suddenly it becomes like okay yeah I shouldn’t meet girls right now like I really need to get some fucking work done (funny how that cycle flips).
I sit next to her the bus goes off, pause for just a second
Preopen her
she smiles and also looks at me a bit trying to figure out my name
but she’s not playing games and is making an honest effort it seems to remember.
Game on
Convo on the Bus
She feels like the 20th girl I’ve talked to in an intimate setting in the last week. I like how we are positioned together too.
With chica from Spanish class we had been a little apart, because I had scooted up to talk to her but couldn’t get right fucking up next to her (had been few people on the bus that day).
With this girl we were right next to each other packed pretty tightly together. From the beginning was getting a great sexual vibe from her. In the back of my mind it was there though that I need to do my paper fuck (it was due for class in 2 hours or so).
Despite this I can’t but help but love being next to his girl and talking to this girl. She’s so hot and smells so good and really hard sexual vibe I feel and am getting from her way more than I had been from Spanish girl initially (who had been more into me but more warm and interested and schoolgirl attracted and stuff… not more demure and reservedly sexy like this girl was).
Part of it too was girl from Spanish class was very talkative and a strong type. This girl is very easily a soft experienced type.
We talk. She asks me about myself and different things I do what my major is where I live, am I in clubs and stuff, a few other things. Kathy’s a more generic girl and I have far less in commnon with her than Spanish girl; but the conversation is interesting and productive.
Our conversation is completely different from my bus conversation the day before. I ask her not very much about herself, instead she asks questions I reveal tiny bits but connect with her more on what she says (large part of this is catering to an individual girl; she's a more quieter, shier less vivacious girl and bulk of what I say and do is mirroring that).
She asks me about clubs I’m in
I know she's a shy girl and connect on that level mentioning that I’d always been a bit busy with school and work and hesitant of getting into clubs case I’m shy and not too outgoing but my friend is gonna run for president and I’m gonna run as his ticket for VP and feel that it might be better to break out of my shell a bit and get a bit more involved (communicate this because I know she feels this way about herself and I’m sort of mirroring that).
give her a hint of a smile
I find out where she lives, what she's doing soon; she’s done with her day and invites me to get in n out with her. I got in n out twice in the same night yesterday; twice in a span of 2 hours lol… I can’t help but accept though.
Oh something interesting I noticed, at no point did I really make effort to deep dive her. Rather she was into me and just asking me questions and was connecting on her level, but all of it was layered with sexual touch and undertones so any connection too deep felt kind of ill fitted.
Off the bus, onto her car
We get off the bus. At this point we’re walking and you walk straight for a while and then later get an option to walk right towards the village or left towards the cars.
First fucking sign that I miss:
(sigh)
We get in her car and head towards in n out burger. From my last report, at the light see the girl from Spanish class ironically but she doesn’t see me through the window tint.
We head to in n out burger and on the way talk more and she asks me more about what I like to do for fun and going out and all that. She turns out to be a party girl somewhat, who is single by choice (meaning she sleeps with guys occasionally and isn’t your most conservative gal) and loves going to vegas wither girlfriends and kicking it in downtown section of our fair city.
Second fucking sign that I don’t capitalize on:
Some point on the way there she had asked about my roommates. And was talking about my new roommates and my freshman year ones. I tell her a bit of a story that I guess I like to tell about how my old roommates were cool but were all super virgins who couldn’t muster up the courage to talk to girls, and how my girlfriend had come over and thought my roommate was gay (rhis story serves the purpose of offhandedly mentioning a girlfriend).
Often girls that are interested here, go and directly ask “what happened” with your girlfriend; mateo talks about doing the same thing here https://www.girlschase.com/content/funda ... tline-pt-2
I tell her that it was mutual and kind of need my freedom and all that. I make a mistake here that I made sure not to make later in the week with Spanish girl because I ask
(after she asks about my girlfriend; should have left it at her asking and not asked her... asking her is sort of reacting to her question)
(and stays single and stuff; pretty clear that this girl isn’t saving herself for marriage or anything then hahaha … )
Third Fuckup:
She gets like a cheeseburger and fries
*facepalm
Usually in the past I’ve always just gotten ice cream or something light like subway with a girl; somehow had never had a first date to in n out and yeah figured out a big rule which was fuck your gains and don’t get heavy ass food ever or anything gross on a first outing with a girl ever.
This girl is soft spoken and more demure; she hasn’t cursed at all I think in all she’s told me and talked to me about or asked me
I order;
(not laughing or anything either I think might have turned her off a bit here? Lol … fuck learned from it after I guess)
I tell her some retarded bull shit about how used to get that since I was a kid and used to get it cut in half cause you could dip the burgers in spread cups that they would give but they don’t give those any more but getting it cut in half makes the burger easier to eat
Whatever; it’s still not dead, and we talk about other shit, she gets separate checks, could have asked her to pay for me and gotten away with it, but didn’t and paid for my own.
We head back to the village; I have her park inside where there’s parking but if she's caught she’ll get a ticket.
So there’s time pressure from getting a ticket and time pressure from me having a class and an essay due which I haven’t started yet. Crap.
Back at my Place
Quick escalations quick leadup to sex are both things don’t have a ton of practice with yet, what with only having had my own place for a month or so now.
But this next one was pretty unforgiveable and would have been easy to do and a horrible fuckup by me.
Fourth fuckup:
She goes to wash her hands in the bathroom
I follow her in a bit later, it’s a tight bathroom really small, could have manhandle kissed her here and gotten far with it here
-_____-
She washes her hands I wash mine
I think I recall seeing a flash of anticipation/hope or something when I entered a bathroom I let her down here once again.
Fifth fuckup:
It was in my mind at sometime here that I had 30 or 40 minutes before I had to let her go before parking was gonna expire and I would have to get back to my unwritten paper and drill something out in 30 minutes and rush off to class.
I realized after the better thing would have been to repark her car far away, skip class (could have easily skipped it and turned in paper later and gotten an A effortlessly in the class still, it’s that lax of a class) and then go and do stuff.
But I made the mistake of assuming that would just get to see her again next time and close next tine when wouldn’t be rushed. That’s a horrible thing to think/assume because you should respond to the signs a women gives you right when she gives them to you and because attraction has an expiration date.
So what was the next fuckup? Eating my fucking burger
We bantered a bit the conversation was light here; it was obvious to me later that she was so ready to have sex by this point and a few points before this point but again I didn’t capitalize on it and address the signs she was giving me.
Dates should have sexual innuendo and hints mixed in; if all that’s been done already and she’s chiller and quieter during the date then she’s just ready to be pulled and escalated on and not acting on that is failing her.
This is what my burger looked like
I think I mentioned something to her about how usually when I eat my burger I don’t talk without meaning to but it just happens that way.
I eat my fucking burger its amazing and don’t talk to her while I eat for the next 7-10 minutes or so !!! …. Horrible just horrible.
I get done talk about some random bullshit with her; again here in my mind I think I’m fine and I’ll just see her again next time and seal the deal then.
She seems ok I guess? She gets done eating I take herto her quickly to her car worried that she might get a ticket (and I’d feel guilty as fuck) she doesn’t and I’m good and then she gives me a hug and I tell her we can see each other next week (we had figured out next Friday would work for both of us)
We don’t have each others numbers, I had left my phone in my room; I give her my number and tell her to text me.
She drives off.
Afterwards
Well that went fine I suppose most of me thinks… but part of me doesn’t think so part of me isn’t convinced.
Part of me knows, feels that should have tried to make a move tried to manhandle kiss or escalate cleverly or show her my room first or something… that I waited too long, didn’t respond to the multiple signs she gave me and she's not coming back and she's not gonna text me back.
I go right after that date and read this article about women’s signs https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-girls-show-interest and kick myself a couple times and become fairly certain she won’t text me back.
She doesn’t
…
I’m fine with it; part of bettering yourself and getting better at anything is being able to be all right with and learn from the failures.
Over the next couple of days when I reflect on the date and all the signs she gave me I cant help but exclaim fuck man!!! But then smile a bit after because I don’t take it too seriously or take life too seriously.
Will have more girls, more fuckups and more successes too; many more to come and eventually this will be just something I look back at and laugh at… satisfied with that, content with that and on to the next girl.
And maybe I do see this girl again on campus; which if I do (and if she’s receptive) gonna carry her over my back and run over to my room and fuck her fucking brains out.
-Gem
EDIT: Oh another sign I forgot to mention that I fucked up on (possibly the most obvious/worst one), was a bit after walking in she asked about my roommates, how many I had, and if they were there or not.
In fact I think it was the first thing she asked, I don't even recall her commenting much on the place or anything else before asking that....
Sorry to let you down mami
