Being a lover with conservative young women

[qqbot]

Hey guys, I'm in my teens right now, somewhere around 17, and usually go for all the girls that show interest in me (from 14 to 18), cause experience is everything for me. I've been studying social arts for like 6-8 months now, and get decent results. The main problem I get now is that women want me as their boyfriend. I try to show no social value to them (I never pay for dates, don't buy them stuff like flowers, don't message them every day), but they still aim for me being their boyfriend. I should notice that I don't use the boyfriend disqualification tech, maybe that should help, I'll try it out.
That boyfriend shit is annoying to me, because girls are fine going home alone with me, but fight me like crazy @ my place! I go for manhandle kiss, usually they're fine with it, but it won't proceed any further, they prevent any attemp to progress it further. They don't let me put off their blouses\skirts\jeans, and even If i manage to persist and make it past that point after 30-40 minutes, next step would take twice as long.
Week ago I had a girl at my place (1st date, btw), we drank a little bit of vodka, started kissing, she gave some stupid token ressistance, I even managed to get her panties off after 2 hours of persisting, but she just won't let me in! After all that shit, she admitted that she didn't want to fuck on the first date, because that'd be stupid (ASD or boyfriend issue).
So, you guys can give me any more advice on how to NOT behave to end up in the boyfriend zone, besides not showing social value
Maybe you should act rude, unintelligent sometimes, but still in a sexy way?

 

[Mr. oblivious]

Being the same ages as you i can say its probably Anti slut defense (this is people our age like 16/17/18)

Once you leave school which i have (in university or college for you Americans) you will find that its much easier to escalate because social pressure is decreased so much and since you don't see everyone Monday to Friday like you did at school girls aren't worried as much about everyone talking about it/ finding out.

Well i noticed once i left for about a month or 2 i just sent a trivial snap chat out to the girls in my class which i received lots of response to go hand at their place alone etc. Which i fuck up (lel)

 

[qqbot]

Thanks for the feedback, Yoda

 

[Franco]

qqbot,

To add to what Yoda mentioned here, many girls of those ages (very young) are still virgins or have very romantic ideals of what the start of a relationship should look like, and the idea of having sex on the first date sometimes scares them because of what they think they know about it. Being that you're in the same social circle as most of them and they have to see you every day at school, it makes it pretty difficult to disqualify yourself as a boyfriend because that's almost exactly what all of those girls are looking for when they are that young.

In general, I advise most guys still in high school just to practice fundamentals and practice being in one or two exclusive relationships since high school sets those up pretty well for you. As far as leading a life of one-night stands and casual affairs go, you'll have plenty of time to experience those as you hit college and beyond since girls no longer have such an innocent view of sex and romance.

- Franco

 

[qqbot]

qqbot,

In general, I advise most guys still in high school just to practice fundamentals and practice being in one or two exclusive relationships since high school sets those up pretty well for you. As far as leading a life of one-night stands and casual affairs go, you'll have plenty of time to experience those as you hit college and beyond since girls no longer have such an innocent view of sex and romance.

- Franco

That's prettty insightful. Thank you, Franco But what if girls are from the periphery of my social circle? I mean, some of them are from another schools, and I usually encounter them once every 2-3 weeks if we don't set anything up. Also, I should add that most of the girls I know this age are already pretty matured and experienced sexually. I've fucked up my last 3 times with girls that have reputation of "sluts" and aren't virgins, just because they wanted me as a boyfriend OR I haven't persisted enough

 

[Franco]

But what if girls are from the periphery of my social circle? I mean, some of them are from another schools, and I usually encounter them once every 2-3 weeks if we don't set anything up.

Well, the less connected they are to your social circle, the more the chances go up of them being willing to sleep with you without pushing for a relationship (and just a fun fling). So you can still attempt to do so, but with girls that young, your chances are still lower.

Also, I should add that most of the girls I know this age are already pretty matured and experienced sexually.

So then you can imagine how sexually experienced and mature women are who are in college or in their early to mid-20s.

- Franco