Being Short - Tips, Strategies, and Experiences

[TheEcho]

Hey Gents!

No, I am not about to rag on only being 5'7, I honestly believe at this point that it is a non-issue on the big picture; simply a percentage up or down depending on preferences, just like a million other things. The only time it truly is an issue, is when you make it one.

The point of this post is to share my experience so far, and for others to share theirs. My personality is warm and playful, so that could also be affecting things.

Coming back into dating and truly doing cold approaches now for a couple months, I have noticed several things:

I've found that whenever I show direct interest (even so much as telling her she's cute in the opening or otherwise), I have had much lower success than when I am warm and friendly, but still a little playful. Out of 8 girls that I've gotten out, only 1 had a direct (verbal) signal of interest ("are you single", the rest were asked out with "you seem pretty cool, how'd you like to hang out some time?"). All 8 at least kissed for a while, if not more. (I fully amp up touch and direct interest on dates)

When I dress edgier, I have worse reception, this has been as little as having an extra button undone (in SD). I do notice that dressing nicely REALLY helps with me (some of the girls approached me, yes it can still happen if you're short). Direct opening (which I love D has been similar to edgy dress, I have yet to get a solid number from that, despite doing it at least a couple times every day. Simply starting a conversation about almost anything (besides her looks... and outside of hired guns), usually leads to more productive outcomes.

Height does not matter. Short girls, tall girls, average-height girls, there's no hard barrier from any height; individual preferences still exist, but your preference is for those that prefer you

Congruence, confidence, and pretty much everything else on GC still applies, I've just found that holding off on initial verbal interest leads to better results (so far, it may have more to do with smoothness).



There's my experience so far, if anyone has any tips or suggestions, I'd love to hear them! Also, any other shorter guys who'd like to share their experience are more than welcome

Take care Gents!
Josh

 

[The Tool]

5 ft 5 here

Glad you noticed height does not really mean anything either. In all my experiences I have only been told "you are too short" ONCE. And that was right as I was getting into pickup.

I was fwb for a while with a 6 ft 4 college basketball player. XD talk about awkward picture. Like yao ming with a hobbit.
Most girls I hooked up with and took on dates were taller than me. Hell even my wife is an inch taller XD

With great confidence and fundamentals being short is not a disadvantage.

I had great success with direct openers and indirect openers. Especially great success with the "are you single?" Line.
As for fashion. Flat brim hat. Skin tight muscle shirts. Douche shades. Loose fitting jeans. And Skater shoes.
Always have the "cocky and sarcastic" vibe about me. Great success with approaches and have even been approached multiple times myself.

One experience I was out at the club. Girl comes up to my and says "My friend thinks your hot!". Me being me. I cocky smiled and said "I am". Turned the girl off who approached me about her friend. But later that night was approached by the girl who made her friend come over to me. (To each their own)

Noticed I myself had huge success with older women as well and when I say older id say 4-10 years older than me (so at the time women between 24-34)

Be confident. Embrace the lack of height. And pursue what you want

 

[TheEcho]

Hey Tool!

Thanks for your input! It's interesting to see how direct works just fine for you, which means I just currently lack congruence and skill with being direct initially, and that it has nothing to do with height. (had an instant date with a chick 7 years older than me and taller, earlier)

Josh

 

[Tim Iron]

I am 171 cm and I hardly approach girls that are more than 8 centimetres taller than me. The height issue never really bothered me much.

 

[JayP]

The Tool - Spot on with the cocky and sarcastic attitude. A lot of short guys that get girls have more influential personalities.

Just like any other insecurity a guy might have, if you don't care, girls don't care. If your height doesn't bother you, the girl will think you're too hot and won't even think twice about having to look below eye level.

I'm 5'4, and every girl I've hooked up with, besides one, was my height or taller by a few inches. Obviously you'll get shit tested more, but that's just more ways to prove how dominant you are if you pass the tests. I remember a weekend trip I took to Washington DC, I approached a girl in my hostel lobby and she within 30 seconds complimented me on my muscles. ( I was wearing a red slim fit v neck) Two minutes later, I'm grabbing her ass like it's the last one I'll ever touch. She was four inches taller than me.

One thing I haven't figured out yet is online dating as a short guy. I never had good pics, but I'm going to get my Tinder profile up again. I've heard height is a big thing for girls online. Have you guys had significant problems because of it?

 

[TheEcho]

Awesome to hear from both you guys!

For online dating, I don't have hard data, but living in SD and sometimes looking at the male competition, height is incredibly prominent in the pictures. I feel that shorter guys have stronger personalities to balance the lesser physical presence, so in person we are as able as anyone else, but take that away and limit it to pictures and text, and it gets harder. (on the flip side, I've had phone calls for insurance/random stuff, and the chick would get audibly horny just by my voice and playfulness)

Not to mention, whenever I try Tinder, I just throw a ton of focus onto non-productive swiping and messaging, just to have them disappear while setting up a date. The whole ordeal drains time and emotions that would be better served on cold approach, in my opinion.

Take care guys,
Josh