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kristian

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I am very glad I started working on myself and reaping the benefits of improved fundamentals. For the first time in my life, its not uncommon to make some girls a little nervous around me. Opening its also easier and I know that I got what it takes to get laid from time to time.

But as I am improving I can also see another thing; gay guys are also attracted.

I am not sexually into guys, and I want to make it clear for them too. Is this common for us who work on themselves? And how do you deal with that kind of attention?
 

Lover

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I don't know if it's common, but I had it happen to me too on a few occassions as well.

How to deal with it?

1: "I'm flattered, but I'm not into males/guys" ---> only use this if you are flattered.

2: "Sorry, I'm not into males/guys"

Said in a light tone, like when a girl rejects a guy in a "I'm so sorryyyy" way :)
 

Hector Papi Castillo

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I always flirt back with gay guys and sometimes offer to fuck them. When they accept, I tell them i was kidding, but that I would if I were gay. I've made out with a gay guy in front of girls before too or even just my guy friends.

I plan to write an article on this, but being cool/flirty with gay guys and homoerotic with straight friends is extremely attractive to women. Having a gay guy all up on you is preselection for women, since gay guys are looking for the same traits women are (and one study that shows women responding to the scent of dominant men shows gay guys react in the same way; I gotta find the study tho).

I once had a girl agree to a date with me, but she confessed to being ambivalent about it (years and years ago). When we were having dinner, she told me that one of the things that made her actually come out with me was her best gay friend told her that she'd be dumb not to go out with me and that I was a "sex god" because how hot I was and what he'd heard about me with girls. He was an awesome dude and I would always flirt with him and be very touchy. Same with my guy friends.

Y'all will get an article about this down the road :p

Hector
 
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JimmyB

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I've made out with a gay guy in front of girls before too or even just my guy friends.
I laughed out loud hard when I read this. I would not make out with a guy but I understand the benefits of you being just completely open sexually in terms of a girl being sexually open with you. That's great stuff. I agree that being somewhat homoerotic with your guy friends is healthy just to be ok with being sexual and shouldn't be weird.
 

Hector Papi Castillo

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JimmyB said:
I laughed out loud hard when I read this. I would not make out with a guy but I understand the benefits of you being just completely open sexually in terms of a girl being sexually open with you. That's great stuff. I agree that being somewhat homoerotic with your guy friends is healthy just to be ok with being sexual and shouldn't be weird.

I mean yeah, if you're not attracted to guys, then I wouldn't say do it, but yeah, open sexuality is hella attractive to women in so many ways.

I wouldn't say I'm bi, but I'm pretty close. Heteroflexible might be the better term. In theory, hooking up with a guy seems fun, but then when I'm actually out with guys, they don't give me any buzz like women do. Girlfriends have asked me if I was gay or bi before, but then I fuck their brains out. the best natural I know gets asked if he's gay like 5 times a night, because a lot of his mannerisms are super effeminate.

It's something that hasn't been given enough thought, but think about it this way

Macho dominant straight guy can beat up any guy in the bar or fuck any girl in the bar.

But then a bi-sexual dominant guy walks in, and not only will he bend over any girl or beat up any guy if he had to, he would also fuck the guys, too. He gives the straight guy's girlfriend the same dreamy bed eyes as he does the boyfriend. And as soon as it makes the straight guy uncomfortable, the bi guy wins - straight homie feels threatened, otherwise he wouldn't be uncomfortable.

"I'll fuck your girlfriend, and then I'll fuck you, bubba," is my attitude. And getting fucked is much more demeaning than getting beat up.

A lot of great dominant men in history were bi-sexual. I'm definitely pumped to write that article.

hector
 

Eternity

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Lord Byron, amirite...
 

Chase

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Kristian-

You'll get used to it. It might freak you out in the beginning if you're not used to having gay men around, but you'll realize they're harmless.

You don't really need to tell them off... gay men usually have pretty good radar. Usually all they'll do is pinch your butt or give your bicep a squeeze or buy you a drink or whatnot. They can usually tell you're straight. They're just throwing it out there in case you're keeping it on the DL.

Anyway, if you want something useful to do with it, you can just tell girls, "Some guy just pinched my butt."

Women nearly always have the same response to this: "Well, gay guys have good taste!"

To which you can simply say, "So they tell me," or something to this effect. And go from there.

If you really want to get comfortable with this, go to Thailand. Once you've had a couple of ladyboys randomly grab your dick, some gay guy back home calling you sweetie or trying to buy you alcohol seems pretty vanilla.

Also, nicely done on your fundamentals. Fun stuff when cute girls start seeming a little nervous and excited around you, huh?

Chase
 

lux7

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I live in a gay area, been to several gay clubs and been approached several times also during the day.

In the area you'd get approached several times no matter the fundementals actually.

I often tell the stories to girls: it's better than saying "a girl approached me" as you sound you're forcing your hand with preselection.
But with a guy, hey, you're just telling a fun story of that dude who "had a rubber in his pocket" ;)

Anatman said:
But then a bi-sexual dominant guy walks in, and not only will he bend over any girl or beat up any guy if he had to, he would also fuck the guys, too. He gives the straight guy's girlfriend the same dreamy bed eyes as he does the boyfriend. And as soon as it makes the straight guy uncomfortable, the bi guy wins - straight homie feels threatened, otherwise he wouldn't be uncomfortable.

Man, I'm not sure on how extensively that holds true TBH.

You can find many examples on both camps.

It does work on many.
But I've also heard countless girls being turned off by guys who would sleep with other guys and/or ladyboys.

A GF of a friend of mine who wanted to "try" a ladyboy (they're kinda open relationship) has been warned that would be the end of their relationship.
 

lux7

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Chase said:
Kristian-

You'll get used to it. It might freak you out in the beginning if you're not used to having gay men around, but you'll realize they're harmless.

You don't really need to tell them off... gay men usually have pretty good radar.

Chase


Spot on, you can banter a bit and they'll enjoy the interaction and realize pretty soon you're not their target.

A few might insist to try their luck, but it's raaare and deffo not something to worry about :).
 

Byron

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As someone who is bisexual (barely, I strongly prefer girls), I also find it easier to transition to sexual talk or even kinky stuff once girls know this. It just makes you stand out as something of a sexual maverick, or at the very least sexually open to new experiences. You've just got to maintain dominance as well. And gay guys are more open about their interest generally, so it is also a great gauge of fundamentals, again as long as you maintain dominance and masculinity.
Just my two cents.
-Byron
 
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