Bisexual Nose Ring Gambit

[Tryst]

Another little tactic I use even though I can't yet post on T&T. This is extensively field tested in England, I don't know if it is applicable elsewhere.


90% of girls who have a little ring through their septum are bisexual. Not all bisexuals have the nose ring, but most with the nose ring are bisexual. Use this as a cold read.

Tryst: Let me say something, promise me you won't take it the wrong way (baiting investment, asking compliance, and building a bit of anticipation)

HB: I promise! (Compliance)

Tryst: You're bisexual, aren't you? (IoI, reward)

HB: Oh my God, how did you know?

Tryst: It's the nose ring, I swear that every girl with that nose ring is bisexual. (Say this in a teasing/making fun of her/implying she's a little basic way, if tou want to IoD calibrate.)

HB: Oh my God so true!

Tryst: So I used to date this girl who was bisexual, it was she was pointed out the nose ring thing to me... [stacking forward]

Stack into some story which shows you relate to her and have knowledge of the bisexual experience. Bisexual girls often experience:

• Guys caring if she kisses a guy, but being totally okay with her kissing/fucking a girl, because they don't respect girl/girl relationships as equal to girl/guy relationships. They don't consider it real, and so aren't threatened.
• Guys thinking immediately about threesomes when they learn their girl is bi, and rushing into trying to organise a threesome. But of course, you understand that proper sex requires everyone be comfortable [show your expertise on what makes good sex]
• People saying they're not actually bi because they only date men, but it's super hard to find girls to fuck/date, unless they use apps.

You can also talk about "I've been told I kiss kind of like a girl", and the girl will say it's a good thing. Go on to talk about how guys kiss too harshly. Talk about a girl you used to date who kissed like so, bur you prefer kisses like such.


There's a lot of places you can go from just this little cold read, and it can go straight into a very natural transition to sensual/sexual discussion. Of course, just the read by itself should get a good reaction.

- Tryst

Why is it that my short term flings
All have the very same nose rings?

 

[Marty]

Use this as a cold read.

Nice tip. When you say ‘use this as a cold read’, does it make her feel more connected, because it seems that you suddenly know her better than she had realized? Not just a change of subject or a new conversation thread?

Guys caring if she kisses a guy, but being totally okay with her kissing/fucking a girl

I can kinda see that; the first is an immediate dealbreaker, the second could be fairly hot as long as it doesn’t become a threat to or distraction from your own relations.

I particularly like the baiting-compliance-reward approach.

 

[Tryst]

Nice tip. When you say ‘use this as a cold read’, does it make her feel more connected, because it seems that you suddenly know her better than she had realized? Not just a change of subject or a new conversation thread?

This sort of little joke I would have used very early in the PU - I mean even prehook, or soon after the hook. Take a look at some of Style's classic earlygame routines - he calls them Instant Value Demonstrations (IVDs). Stuff like the Best Friends Test, Cs vs Us, Finger Length Routine. They all teach the girl something about herself, or show that you noticed something, and therefore build some value for you. You're no longer just some random guy who's here to bore her, but you say fun and interesting things. This cold read does the exact same thing. It just shows that you have the ability to say fun and interesting things, and that you see/understand more than other guys.

This early in the pickup, I don't give a shit about connecting with the girl. And why should I? I just met her. There's a thread up right now where a bunch of guys are realising, all at once, that it's not a good idea to try to connect with chicks they just met 2 seconds ago. Rather, this early, I want to build value for myself until she starts investing in the interaction. Only then will I try to connect with her.

Imagine you are a perfectly high value Chad. You wouldn't care to deep dive and connect with every hot girl you meet, you don't have time for that. Instead you just self-amuse, have a fun time with the hot girls (this gambit does that.) Only when a girl proves herself as worthy of you (qualifies) do you even think about taking time out of your busy day to connect.

In short, I don't believe this cold read really increases any feelings of connection. It's just a bit of fun, a vibe builder. You have other bullshit cold reads for that ("You're very passionate. I bet you have a lot of potential, but I bet you also find it really hard to just choose something and apply yourself..."). I mean, put yourself in a girl's shoes: if someone correctly reads you as bisexual because of your nose ring, would that make you feel closer with them? What emotions would that inspire?

I particularly like the baiting-compliance-reward approach.

This is absolutely fundamental to literally all good pickup as I personally understand it. It is true on the most micro scale, to the most macro, and is restated in a million different ways as a million different rules by a million different PUAs. Just last night, I was sat with a 2set, and my "friends" (3 girls, the friends of a girl I picked up last week, but no one else knows that) were calling me to leave. I stand up, and take a step away (actually a compliance test - does my girl seem bothered that I'm leaving?). My girl target leans forwards towards me as I leave, extending a hand (compliance - she shows me she wants me to stay) so I smile and sit back down, going into my next routine (reward - why should I play hard to get when my girl is trying so hard to build a vibe?), with another verbal time constraint "You're really dragging me away from my friends here (calibrate my interest with an IoD - maintain my value in relation to theirs, making it clear that it is a big deal for me to spend time with two random girls over my friends. This particular line is very strong/explicit frame control.)

This was a full bait-hook-reel- release that took place nearly entirely nonverbally. I could have replaced my verbal time constraint with just glances back at my waiting friends, so that my set could tell that I'm ready to go at any moment. Isn't that neat?

I have some field reports/lay reports coming right now, and I think I'll make this compliance tests explicit in my writing, because a lot of people on this forum would benefit from understanding the process.

(That set ended with my friends dragging me away as I took their instas, and then my girl from last week was mad at me and stormed off. Ah well, can't win them all.)

- Tryst

Sometimes I wonder if I should be nicer
And drop the attitudes which first enticed her.