LR- BJ from my friend on the way to work

[ray_zorse]

So I have a friend who I've been stuffing around with for some time, since before I got into PU as a matter of fact, she has kids same age as mine and we went on a number of playdates before I found she's intensely sexual and bored and frustrated, initially I wasn't into her though because I'm kinda sorta friends with the husband (though only through her) and also maybe a bit fearful of him, anyway, kinda sexual tension built up over a long time and she would always turn her head to get me on the lips when i tried to kiss her goodbye and we'd often catch up for long coffees before work, we also catch up on certain days before school for a coffee and playdate which is a longstanding arrangement...anyway so eventually after about a year of this fucking around, somewhat against my better judgement i let go and kissed and fingered her after we left a school drinks function, I was into PU by then so had lost some inhibitions but hadnt really got out my A game around her unfortunately...couldnt really progress things since it was freezing and we were in the street even though she seemed well up for it, we were both too drunk to drive so had a bit of a logistical problem and I ended up walking her home to hubby who was expecting her at a certain time..hmm bad move in retrospect, should have got her in a cab looking back...

So I got her around to my place in the evening some days after thinking it would be a cakewalk, had got out the candles and built a fire and got out some wine so things progressed until I tried to get her pants off, crazy LMR and worked on her for about half an hour and eventually told her that it was stupid to half-do things, having a passionate affair except not having a passionate affair and I thought we should just be friends and I regretted having given in to the impulse and so on, so she left, whole thing kinda pissed me off since she was basically chasing me from the outset and then wasted my time...she was very keen to give me a bj but i wouldn't let her, stuff it.

So yeah then things went a bit pearshaped, she was very unhappy to be put in the friendzone and sent me lengthy texts describing her complicated feelings for me and that shit, I sent a few brief replies saying I thought she was over dramatizing and to get her shit together, eventually went over for lunch and a discussion in which I reiterated that I felt like she was wasting my time and energy giving me the come on and then using it to get a whole lot of emotional support / validation about her crap marriage and whatnot and that I wasn't going to play that game and it could get fucked, but I still really liked her and would like to get things onto a better footing, this resulted in more long texts how she hadnt been able to express herself in person and whatnot, bullshit bullshit, and i told her so...had been keen to actually sort some things...

So left things like that for a number of months, continued to be friends & have playdates etc, anyway lately i noticed she has been looking pretty fucking hot when she comes over and also felt i'd been neglecting her a bit (busy with work and PU and other matters) so i invited her on an outing I was doing, and we also did a lunch the other day, she's an auto invester and has always been keen to bring stuff over, etc (not to mention giving me presents) and so I guess I was pretty happy with her, not too sure if you could call this compliance but I guess she's always been pretty compliant without effort on my part (except the LMR bit)... anyway started to sneak a few cuddles etc, had been thinking basically friendzone her for quite a while and then suddenly escalate and BANG things might go a bit better... especially if she remembers consequences last time.

Argh, well anyway called in this morning when she invited me over on the way to work, decided to escalate as soon as she turned to make me a tea and things got hot and heavy very quickly, had the finger in there straightaway but same crazy LMR, dunno what is with her...spent about an hour on this fucking around, trying to get her pants off and whatnot, she was definitely into it and i was saying things like "you know as soon as i leave here you're going to go into your bedroom and masturbate about the awesome sex you could have had right" and she says "yes totally" and i say "so fucking live the dream you little bitch" and so on (she likes that kind of talk) anyway eventually got her there with the finger with her bent over the kitchen bench, had been keen to whip the pants down and slip it in but unfortunately knew this would fuck up the flow, felt she might do better after 1st orgasm...then took her into the lounge and took her shoes off and tried to get a bit of oral action going but same LMR, no pants off etc, fuck it, gave this another half hour but eventually became exhausted and accepted a BJ which was actually pretty good...had to explain to her beforehand that i find it hard to cum and that i would be giving her instructions and she was to follow them precisely to get me there and this worked OK...had been thinking of maybe going for a round 2 and seeing if i could get some dick in there afterwards but eventually we just drank another tea and talked about intimate sexual topics for another half hr or more, was keen to escalate again but not too sure if i could get it up again so soon.. hmm.. really need to work on my technique and planning here, feel like after months of getting her into the position she needs to be in, i blew it again.. still i spose will get there eventually, shes clearly in it for the long haul...hmmm

 

[ray_zorse]

Have just realized above should really have been in the relationships forum, anyway I can turn it into an FR...did 2 approaches in the gym in the morning, one western girl and one reopening of [T] the subject of previous FR... latter one went better but is not going anywhere I think, possibly could have number closed if I had done so before conversation died and she left but I guess she just isn't into me, no biggie. So then went home for a rest, and proceeded as outlined above, after work I was feeling bloody tired and a bit depressed so anyway I got on the tram and locked eyes with a total hotty, ended up sitting opposite her (which was actually just by accident) and just sat there telling myself I was a dick for not opening her, feeling extremely uncomfortable but totally lacking momentum, anyway after I avoided her eye for some time and leaned back to let the waves of tiredness and fatigue wash over me, she got up and stood next to me, !!?? her bag was basically resting on my shoulder for the next 10min and I felt like even more of a dick that I froze up and could not open, I guess this is what we call an approach invitation? Anyway so eventually get off the tram and immediately pass up a great opportunity to open another little hotty who was standing at the intersection with an umbrella, I could have just popped my head under and said hey, let me share this for a bit, getting totally drenched out here... walk up and past a hotel and see some ppl getting out of a taxi and waste yet another opportunity, could have opened the older one who was standing right next to me..you get the picture, I was feeling terrible by this point. Eventually got to the restaurant where I was planning to have dinner (was to have met a friend from overseas who flaked out but decided to go anyway) and this is where matters improved, I got in and managed to crack a smile to the bar girl who was tall and had flesh tunnels, quite a luxurious body, although she wasn't exactly my line of country I was desperate for some momentum so I engaged her for a bit in getting a recommendation on what to eat and drink and then proceeded to monopolize her attention for the next hour, she loved it, although the conversation was pretty much non sexual (by choice I guess) I was feeling like I had a lot more momentum by this point. Eventually I thanked her and explained that she'd given my night a much better foundation while touching her arm and went out, probably could have number closed but decided to let things rest. Ahh so now we were in play, saw a number of good opportunities on the way back to the tram but was a bit slow on the uptake, anyway I then got on the tram and spied a few possibilities in my peripheral vision, went to talk to a tall girl who looked interesting but unfortunately she got off while I was still dithering..so then noticed I'd walked right past a stunning Asian woman who looked a little older than the average student (perfect for me as I'm 38), she was sitting there with this lovely lost and pensive expression on her face and I HAD TO OPEN HER! Unfortunately the seat was already taken (could have got in it when I first got on but the peripherals hadn't identified this opportunity) so I waited a little and eventually it was free, taking a deep breath I went over and sat down and said hi! you look incredibly cute! you're lost in thought! what are you thinking about? and she was quite receptive! she was wondering whether to change her major when she finishes foundation study..perfect..offered to help her practice English, attempted to move her off the tram then and there by suggesting we get off and go down into central station and get a coffee while she tells me about her major, well she said she has to meet her friend and I laughed and said oh yeah, I believe you, she laughed too, chattered a little longer until she made signs of getting off so I said hey!! before you go!! what's your name? [L] I'm Ray! shoot me your number!! quick!! by this stage everyone on the tram I think was rooting for me, she fumbled it a bit so i had to get off the tram to save my mobile hahaha but the tram driver waited so i got back on having closed things out well.. sent her the following text: "hi this is Ray save my contact i love kids too [referring to her major], I hope to chat about it with you over a coffee soon"... she replied "Ok, cu" which sounds a bit lukewarm but hey its a response..tomorrow I'll search the site and see what to do next, haven't encountered this one before since it usually takes me yonks to number close as i'm in an agony of indecision hahaha.. maybe if i continue like this i'll be able to elevator-close soon? OK so then I decided to call it a night, but on an impulse stopped off at a bar where I drank last week, the only real hotty in there was the bar manager and luckily it turned out she's Japanese so I chattered with her in Japanese for ages, eventually switched back to english which she is more comfortable in, and I was getting quite excited by this point and started some chase and sexual framing, turns out she has a boyfriend but anyway she was all over me all night, introduced me to her friends and would not let me pay for a drink at all, we got up to a bit of a prank involving an ice bucket that I had to do within 24hrs (not sure if any of you have heard of the ALS challenge, you dare someone to get ice water tipped over them or they have to donate $100 to ALS research), she absolutely lapped this up and insisted on being the one to pour the ice water over me on video, then dried me off with towels, quite physical, well i stayed until almost close and got a bit more sexual framing in but was a bit nonplussed how to deal with the situation, i wanted to wait for everyone to leave and then jump on her but it was just going to take too long, have to get up at 6.30 for the gym so eventually i just said hey, gotta settle the bill, so come here and gave her a big hug and a kiss on the cheek, anyway, she wants to set me up with her Japanese friend for language exchange & will apparently text me next time the friend is there...hmm...overall quite an interesting night, could have done better but could have done a lot worse! I'm pretty happy especially after the morning's debacle!

 

[ray_zorse]

Just want to note that I closed the deal tonite w aforementioned friend & broke a dry spell. Yeah! This time I was careful to act a bit disinterested and non sexual and let her initiate. I also built compliance by having her do various tasks in my kitchen, fetch tea towels for me from the washing line and so forth. I dunno if these techniques helped but anyway got there. Had a long chat in bed after when she basically said she has deep feelings for me but feels that to me she's just a root, I was a little offended since I genuinely love all women & strive to treat them respectfully and kindly (if they deserve it that is), managed to disarm these objections by being patient with them and suggesting that I may be more emotionally invested than it appears and besides I can't afford to fall 100% in love w a married woman and so forth. She was kinda making out its a one off for a while so I just teased her a bit, laughing and saying oh yeah, I believe you and so on.

I only did one approach today. Had my eye on a well dressed hotty whom I spied through the glass window of the gym. Unfortunately she was getting on a tram as I finished my workout so I decided to jump on as well. I had to sit opposite her, was not able to open on the side & fucked up the pre opener eye contact a bit. As I went into it I realized I was not really having fun & found it hard to project my usual playful vibe especially as I was not warmed up. Nevertheless I did a workmanlike job of it, explained I had been at the gym and could not help but notice she was amazingly cute etc, she responded politely but disinterestedly to my initial questions but soon dismissed me by saying she had to do something for work and returning to her phone. So I re-engaged her attention to say it had been nice talking to her and then got off the tram. As I did another hotty got on who I would have liked to engage but it would have been embarrassing since everyone on the tram heard me the first time. Walked back and saw another hotty on other side of street, debated going over but eventually decided I needed my proper clothes to project the right image.

Yesterday was a really good day though. I was out w my kids at the zoo & although I missed some great opportunities for fear kids would derail me at a critical moment, when we watched a wild bird show I opened a cute girl sitting next to me by going direct and it turned out she was Polish, so chattered w her for some time in Polish, a language I had not spoken for a good 5~10 yrs, found I could remember the basics without difficulty (amazing what a pretty girl and a shot of adrenaline can do). After a while her boyfriend came and sat next to her but anyhow she and I had great rapport. At the end I reconfirmed by asking if she was single and saying well if she was I would definitely have asked her out. Opened another cutie as we walked out, did some more opens while kids occupied in playground. The night was even more interesting, after a family event & dropping kids back to mum I had to go to casino for a dinner organized by a friend, did quite a few approaches there including one to a pair of lesbian tourists (haha), was working on my eye contact discipline and opened one chick w a great body using a pre opener, without having seen her face which I haven't been game to do before. She wasn't that hot but I still went direct and chatted to her for 15min or so till my friend arrived. After the dinner I decided to try and thank him by setting him up w someone so approached some pairs of women, but we didn't have the wingman bit down and this didn't go so well, I'm v keen to find a wingman w solid fundamentals for a bit of solid bar & club (or in this case casino) game when I can.