Body count

[Sub-Zero]

I just seen this video where couples are talking about their body counts, and the comments under the video people are talking about being 25 years old with 100-300 women. This shit sounds crazy, can't be true,but if it's true how the hell is that even possible? That shit makes me feel less of a man, how can i do this In such a short amount of time?

 

[Mr.Rob]

Don't compare yourself to other people and for gods sake don't judge the value of a man (including yourself) based on how many women a man has slept with.

Becoming a man has nothing to do with getting laid.

By improving with women you can become more of a man, but the act of having sex itself a mere child can do (well teenager). How many grown "men" are womanizers that act like children.... probably more than you can count.

Judge a man by his character not his lay count.

Quite frankly if I meet my dream girl tomorrow and marry her I'll have a lay count of 12 girls. I could really care less.

Also if you do want to fuck 300 girls don't expect it to happen fast or come easy. There are no shortcuts just take action until you're there. Expect it to take years.

-Rob

 

[Franco]

Money,

I just seen this video where couples are talking about their body counts, and the comments under the video people are talking about being 25 years old with 100-300 women.

First of all, these are video comments. The majority of people here probably aren't speaking the truth -- Chase himself only has a lay count somewhere in the mid 100s (unless he's been doing some serious work recently), and he's probably at the top of his class with very few other seducers who have a triple digit lay count. So let's not get too hasty assuming that anyone here is just talking out of their ass -- even if it is true, we don't know how many of those girls are actually attractive.

Secondly, as Rob already mentioned, your lay count does not define you. I actually don't even keep track of my lay count, and I wouldn't be able to give you an exact number if you asked me how many. I have a pretty good feeling that it's more than 50 and less than 100, but that's obviously a pretty broad range. As of right now, I'm just enjoying my ability to be able to talk to women with the confidence that I do know how to attract, seduce, and sleep with them, so I know that a beautiful girl is always around the corner.

At the same time, I have my own hobbies/interests outside of women that really take up the majority of my time. I like to think that those define me more than the women I date, and the women are a supplemental part of my life that I enjoy, and I also bring lots of joy to those women as well. It's a sharing of mutual joy, and I expect that the women I date have other things going on outside of sleeping with me (or other men for that matter).

Focus on you. If you feel like less of a man when you hear that a guy on a video comment has said he has slept with 300 women, then you need to find more self-fulfillment in the things you do in everyday life.

- Franco

 

[Sub-Zero]

Don't compare yourself to other people and for gods sake don't judge the value of a man (including yourself) based on how many women a man has slept with.

Becoming a man has nothing to do with getting laid.

By improving with women you can become more of a man, but the act of having sex itself a mere child can do (well teenager). How many grown "men" are womanizers that act like children.... probably more than you can count.

Judge a man by his character not his lay count.

Quite frankly if I meet my dream girl tomorrow and marry her I'll have a lay count of 12 girls. I could really care less.

Also if you do want to fuck 300 girls don't expect it to happen fast or come easy. There are no shortcuts just take action until you're there. Expect it to take years.

-Rob

I know what you mean man, but i have seen chase say in comments that sex partners do matter and he's used a few examples. I remember one saying i guy would have a better chance of seducing an old crush if he slept with 20 something women than a handful. It seems like partner count means a lot.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Money,

I just seen this video where couples are talking about their body counts, and the comments under the video people are talking about being 25 years old with 100-300 women.

First of all, these are video comments. The majority of people here probably aren't speaking the truth -- Chase himself only has a lay count somewhere in the mid 100s (unless he's been doing some serious work recently), and he's probably at the top of his class with very few other seducers who have a triple digit lay count. So let's not get too hasty assuming that anyone here is just talking out of their ass -- even if it is true, we don't know how many of those girls are actually attractive.

Secondly, as Rob already mentioned, your lay count does not define you. I actually don't even keep track of my lay count, and I wouldn't be able to give you an exact number if you asked me how many. I have a pretty good feeling that it's more than 50 and less than 100, but that's obviously a pretty broad range. As of right now, I'm just enjoying my ability to be able to talk to women with the confidence that I do know how to attract, seduce, and sleep with them, so I know that a beautiful girl is always around the corner.

At the same time, I have my own hobbies/interests outside of women that really take up the majority of my time. I like to think that those define me more than the women I date, and the women are a supplemental part of my life that I enjoy, and I also bring lots of joy to those women as well. It's a sharing of mutual joy, and I expect that the women I date have other things going on outside of sleeping with me (or other men for that matter).

Focus on you. If you feel like less of a man when you hear that a guy on a video comment has said he has slept with 300 women, then you need to find more self-fulfillment in the things you do in everyday life.

- Franco

Yeah, that's what im saying, how the fuck can you be 25 and have fucked over 100-300 women? I have seen this on so many different websites. And i say it makes me feel less of a man because if there is any truth to any of this i need to step my game up. Lays do count, i remember chase using examples on how having 20 partners would be better than having 5 partners when it comes to seduction.

 

[Franco]

Money,

Lays do count, i remember chase using examples on how having 20 partners would be better than having 5 partners when it comes to seduction.

Well yeah, when your numbers are that low, it means you're still relatively inexperienced. But with a number that low, it's nothing you should even be worried about since it's easily possible to get 20 lays within a year's timespan, even if you're a virgin. It really depends on how much effort you put into it.

You can never really be "behind" in seduction. Guys get frustrated on here because they are "kissless virgins" in their 20s, yet they don't realize that they can turn that around in a year or two and have had sex with more women than most of their friends have had. It's really about the amount of effort you put behind it.

The more partners you have, the more your confidence tends to snowball. So of course, when you start out, you really have to work hard to get those first few lays because your confidence won't be very high yet. But once you start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, your confidence begins build up, and the frequency of lays tends to increase.

- Franco

 

[Palpability]

We're supposed to count?!

 

[Sub-Zero]

Money,

Lays do count, i remember chase using examples on how having 20 partners would be better than having 5 partners when it comes to seduction.

Well yeah, when your numbers are that low, it means you're still relatively inexperienced. But with a number that low, it's nothing you should even be worried about since it's easily possible to get 20 lays within a year's timespan, even if you're a virgin. It really depends on how much effort you put into it.

You can never really be "behind" in seduction. Guys get frustrated on here because they are "kissless virgins" in their 20s, yet they don't realize that they can turn that around in a year or two and have had sex with more women than most of their friends have had. It's really about the amount of effort you put behind it.

The more partners you have, the more your confidence tends to snowball. So of course, when you start out, you really have to work hard to get those first few lays because your confidence won't be very high yet. But once you start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, your confidence begins build up, and the frequency of lays tends to increase.

- Franco

Im know this post is dumb old, but what advice would you give a Virgin or a relative inexperienced dude to get 20 lays a year? Going from a Virgin to having sex with 20 women within a year sounds cool. How can a person like that improve so quickly? What is your advice ?

 

[Sub-Zero]

Im know this post is dumb old, but what advice would you give a Virgin or a relative inexperienced dude to get 20 lays a year? Going from a Virgin to having sex with 20 women within a year sounds cool. How can a person like that improve so quickly? What is your advice ?

Just a little food for thought, how I think it would be best done:

-Come up with an action plan...goal, sleep with 20 women in one years time. Also keep in mind that this is more likely a three year process, but depending on your starting skill set, looks, learning abilities, social understanding....etc could be done in the first year, but not likely.

-break that goal down into easily sizable chunks, lets say you want to be super aggressive and bed 20 women in your second year of seduction.(Much more realistic than bedding 20 women in year one)

-Go through ALL the skills you need and list them out. And focus on a few at a time. approach, number, deep dive, fundamentals, moving, kissing, pulling, social circle(optional)...etc and go ahead.

-Start going out a lot. 3-5 times a week would be good for a few hours at a time. Then start developing your process.

-Repeat this every until your getting laid pretty damn consistently.

References:the newbie assignment is a wonderful place to start. ALSO I think doing 30-90 day challenges is a GREAT way to acquire a social tool belt to draw from fast. Check out haraklus journal(90 days of game). The challenge is to go out and open a certain number of girls daily. It will get your momentum moving.

Theres tons more and other ways to achieve this but this is just a nuts and bolts guide, and I think you can do this the fastest with night game in MOST areas, unless you live in a metropolitan city in which you have enough day time options for this to be reasonable.

Also! for reference, heres my story. I hope this shed some light on what it takes for a guy who's been in the game a good while.

I have been doing game for multiple years, I was thinking yesterday, if I subtract my time in monogamous relationships, from the time I first got laid, I've been gaming for about 5 years. 3 of those years, my only "game" reference was david deangelos "double your dating" which is a good primer and I briefly trie the mystery method which I just looked like an idiot trying, for the first three years, nearly all my lays were social circle party lays. nearly 0 true cold approach. I didn't REALLY step it up in cold approach until I found GC and RSD about 2.5 years ago. I also SUCKED with women when I started and was super needy co-dependant unattractive and unconfident.

I, like Franco, have basically lost count, but my best estimates put me right around 60 women now. Out of the 5 years I have been gaming hard, my 2 highest partner years were one in college where I was throwing parties EVERY weekend, and I think my count was in the high teens in one year. I still kind of sucked with women then, but my logistics (my own party) were pretty much the best you can get and I had tons of social proof. Then my first year doing night game 3-5 nights a week, I did top 20 in a years time. HOWEVER, many of those lays were questionable quality I would basically pull home and fuck whoever I could. But, I don't regret it because it made me more skillful and it was fun and I knocked out a bunch of bucket list items like,....have sex with 3 different new girls in three consecutive days...have a threesome(or a few )...fuck a "10" (whatever that means, Ive completely realized theres hardly any universal 10s).

This year, since april (my first lay of this year), I have slept with 11 women, 3 who were meh, but the rest all attractive. I have really put a focus on quality this year and am attracting the hottest girls of my life. I am on track to sleep with over 20 women by april 2016, altho thats not my goal at all and i may or may not hit that point.

Also, this year, I have hit a "pinnacle point" in my personal game. I, of my own volition, for the first time in my life, have took a girl who I met via cold approach who was incredibly attractive, incredibly smart, motivated, and of high character, bedded her, have been screening the shit out of her for desirable qualities, and am now in the process of beginning a relationship with her with a strong foundation.

Out of all that work and all that time invested this is all I have ever wanted. This is me teetering on the edge of "absolute abundance." This is me, going out, approaching girls who intimidate me, running my process, shattering my limiting beliefs, screening relentlessly for qualities that I want, and choosing who I end up with rather than ANY type of settling. I now know I have the ability to find an amazing girlfriend completely with my own skill set. Honestly, Idc if I only bed a couple of girls a year if I have that skill set, that is a way better feeling than knowing that I have fucked more girls than joe schmoe...

Ironically, all of my friends who bed girls consistently and have higher lay counts than me, are still not at a level where they could go out and find the girl they want. I predict most of them will end up banging a girl and based on whatever time in their lives it is, they will lazily keep banging her until they fall out of abundance at which point, they will marry her. They may have banged 100+ girls, but they are still not skilled at dating.

One of my buddies, a good guy banged probably 10-15 girls in about 5 months at the beginning of this year. However, the first girl that REALLY like him, he settled down with. That was her choosing him still. Now, she cheats on him every couple of months because she's a total piece of shit and they fight all the time, but even tho he knows he can bang lots of girls, he won't leave her. This will be the fate of many of my natural friends who are skilled with women and have high lay counts unfortunately.

I may be sitting here with my meager 60, but I now know, that I have the ability to go out and meet an extremely high quality girl that passes an insane amount of checks in a relatively short period of time and make her my girlfriend. To me that is such a more worthwhile goal than banging lots of girls. This is coming from a guy who spent years trying to bang the most girls.

This is the man that GC taught me to be, and it is absolutely amazing beyond any thing I have personally experienced. (Thanks Chase and everyone else!)

So I think in the end it was necessary for me to hook up with a pretty high number of girls to reach where I am at today. However, I think I could have hit this point faster if this would have been my goal from the beginning rather than just banging out as many chicks as possible.

I also know that even though I have been doing this a long time, I have TONS of areas where I still need improvement and my journey is YEARS from being finished still. So do not treat seduction like its just a one year thing and if you work hard you can bang a girl by snapping your fingers type of thing.

So TL;DR
-Develop a plan
-Go out a lot like its your fucking job and study that shit 24/7
-Me bragging a lot
-Fuck lots of girls, but realize that that in itself is shitty goal
-Only fuck lots of girls so that you can eventually achieve absolute abundance with women and life

Sorry for rambling I got a little out of hand with this response lol.

Radeng

You're good with your rambling man haha, good advice, I guess it's more of being out there in general. So you say night game might be the fastest way to level up?

How did your friends reach such high numbers if they don't know this sage advice?

I'm in my teens already so I have a solid foundation, I just can't consistently get the one night stand, or dates, i sometimes have dry spells, and as of now I've been just working a lot.

I'm going to school too, haven't been there inna while, I don't plan on being a party host or whatever, got any tips for a chill dude to get some lays from there?

I want to get to triple digits that's all I know, and now is better than later.

Good shit bruh

 

[foggy]

The good advice on this thread can be applied not only to seduction, but to all other facets of life as well. If you want to succeed, don't compare yourself to others, it will only hinder your progress. Everyone moves at different paces!

 

[GeneralFap]

A lot of guys here achieved fast success because they were just "normal guys" who were already getting women and just needed Girlschase take their game to the next level.

Anatman: "Before finding Girls Chase I considered myself quite the ladies man and had crafted some decent natural game."

NarrowJ: "I lost my virginity when I was 13." I racked up quite a few during my last two years of high school. I'd say I was close to 20 [lays] by the time I graduated.

Although I'm sure these guys had to work to get to where they are, I don't admire them as much as I admire guys who had to overcome things like massive depression and social anxiety before they could start getting results with women. Comparing yourself to these guys will do you no good.

Do things at your own pace and you will eventually reach the place you want to be.

 

[Sub-Zero]

For whatever it's worth, my count is just below the mid triple digits, and it doesn't mean anything at all about who I am as a person, my values as a man, my intellect, my character or my value as a human being. All it means is I learned Game and spent a lot of time trying to get laid.

Sometimes I feel like budding PUA-types think that getting laid is the be-all end-all of life, and the measure of your value as a man.

It isn't...even though for a long time, I thought it was.

Sex is like the dessert, the fun side dish--it's not the main course and your count or lack thereof shouldn't make you feel inadequate or "less than" because again, all it really measures is time spent trying to get laid.

MISSION FIRST.

"Trying to get 20 lays a year" is, in my opinion, a really bad goal. Enjoy yourself, enjoying women, shattering limiting beliefs, pushing your comfort zone, connecting on a new level, having experiences, falling in love and making mistakes and learning from them and rising from the ashes...that is a much better goal than simply a left-brained number for the sake of female validation.

The lays are the side effect of a drive to experience everything life has to offer.

I am trying to enjoy myself, but it's killing me how my lays are so low, I'm like wtf. I'm going crazy over this shit like somethings wrong with me, how the hell does everyone have such high numbers? I feel like a fuck up.

 

[Richard]

I've been gaming pretty close to 2 years now, with about a year and a half of consistent results and my lay count is between 30-35 - with about 8 being same day lays, and a handful of others being one time deals. The rest were FWB or fuckbuddies and only 3 became girlfriends, and I'm only 20. It's definitely possible to get 100 by the time you're 25, especially if you started young like I did.

I got here by working my ass off at this, and I had a ton of motivation going in. Picking up chicks really isn't that hard and the easiest way to get better with women is to push the envelope and take risks.