Boyfriend Objections

[ProblemSolving]

Hey gang,

I've run into so many boyfriend objections lately that I'm starting to wonder if there are any single girls left in this city! I'm confident in my approach and fundamentals, so I'm hesitant to believe that it's token resistance.

If anyone has successfully gotten a date or lay after hearing about the boyfriend in environments not including a bar, party, or vacation, I'd love to hear it. Please no hypotheticals. I want to know what, if anything, worked for you in the field.

I suspect that the solution lies in simply increasing my inputs, but I want to make sure I'm not leaving any food on the table when I eject after the boyfriend is brought up.

Your thoughts gentlemen?

 

[Eternity]

How soon in the interaction? Immediately? Yeah something is off with your "vibe". If not, don't mention him again and keep moving the interaction forward. Usually, I would find out towards the end if a chick had a guy, if they like you they will either mention him once or twice or not at all. But i just nodded and smirked and did not bring him up again and escalated further. If she likes you enough, then the b.f objection is just another shit test you can pass by nodding and pretending you did not hear it. If she doesn't, you will hear her talk about him more than normal and her body language will be cool, withdrawn and she will mean it (facial expressions) when she says IHABF.

 

[ProblemSolving]

How soon in the interaction? Immediately? Yeah something is off with your "vibe". If not, don't mention him again and keep moving the interaction forward. Usually, I would find out towards the end if a chick had a guy, if they like you they will either mention him once or twice or not at all. But i just nodded and smirked and did not bring him up again and escalated further. If she likes you enough, then the b.f objection is just another shit test you can pass by nodding and pretending you did not hear it. If she doesn't, you will hear her talk about him more than normal and her body language will be cool, withdrawn and she will mean it (facial expressions) when she says IHABF.

No, I do not get it immediately. It either comes up while we're vibing or on the number close.

The internet is rife with advice on this subject, but field reports with actual results are non-existent.

Could you please provide an example where simply ignoring it resulted in a date or lay in a non-club, party, or vacation environment?

It doesn't have to be an elaborate or in-depth field report, just something along the lines of:

"I approached a girl on the street, bantered for a bit. Went for the number close. She said she couldn't because she had a boyfriend. I ignored, talked a bit more, pushed for the number, got it. Managed to get a date later in the week."

Or

"I approached a girl at grocery store. Bantered for a bit. I asked her what she was up to after grocery shopping and she said she was on her way to see her boyfriend. I ignored and continued to lead her outside where I invited her to my place to watch a movie which resulted in teh sexy time."

If something similar has happened to anyone, I'd very much like to know.

 

[Eternity]

"I approached a girl on the street, bantered for a bit. Went for the number close. She said she couldn't because she had a boyfriend. I ignored, talked a bit more, pushed for the number, got it. Managed to get a date later in the week."

Replace street with class and you have summed up partially my example. Though, bantering was done throughout some weeks to build attraction and comfort as in these situations one wrong move and every girl in class wouldn't look at you. After class or sometimes in class I would try to find common ground on some things so i would ask her about a movie or a place I've been to and ask her about it, then the girl would say "OMG! My b.f totally loves that movie!" or "My b.f used to take me there all the time." Now the ball is in my court, of course i would casually reply with, "Yeah, I bet. Why do you like that movie/place?" She would go on on about why she likes it and i would ask more questions keeping her mind busy and building more comfort/attraction (deep diving) and off her b.f. If I heard more times her talking about her b.f then I knew it was time to move on, this girl was in love with her b.f or in love with someone else.

If not, then i would rev up the my sexy stare, my voice would become deeper, more seductive. I would subtly try to kino by touching her shoulder/arm when she said something goofy or funny. I then would look into her eyes, and lingered in them for a few seconds to see if she looked at me the same way, intensely or lustfully, and look for a sparkle or a genuine seductive smile from her part. Objective is to keep the b.f out of the conversation as much as possible and then hit her with a "It's been great talking. Let's stay in touch... (whip out phone or tell her to write down her #) All of the deep diving, flirting, touching, and a lack of talk of the b.f brings it down to compliance on her part at the end. If she still mumbles out "Sorry, IHABF" Your vibe or game is off somewhere. Could be you subconsciously want a g.f and your body language, tone, and mannerisms bleed provider vibes out to her thus the rejections you encounter. I rarely have gotten the IHABF towards the end when I stuck to the script above then i would set up a "date" for next week by inviting her for some coffee or food to "talk" about something from class or chill for a bit and take a load off. But all this was before G.C, i had a process but would fuck it up during the date because i did not follow through with tighter game and would be more self conscious about what to do next. I figured out the b.f obstacle but not the entire process of seduction leading to flaking and her leaving saying she had "things" to do.

 

[Dern]

I'm starting to wonder if there are any single girls left in this city!

Hahaha! I totally know how you feel: I think this all the time!

Why is it that soo many hot girls have bfs? Do girls not respect their freedom anymore?

The closest I've ever gotten to a girl in a relationship was scheduling a date with her, then having her flake on me last minute because "she told her boyfriend about the date and he doesn't approve". This happened to me more than once, come to think of it. I guess my fault in not communicating enough discretion.

Girls usually give me the "I have a boyfriend" objection when I try to number close. I then try to communicate discretion by saying things like: "oh it's ok, I'm good with secrets" OR "sounds serious" OR "what made you think I wanted to replace him?" I've gotten numbers this way, but they never led to dates. Probably better to communicate subtlety during the middle of the conversation.

Have you ever tried opening with: "are you single?" When I do this, a lot of girls give me a straight-up "no" and walk away really quickly. Good because then you're not wasting effort or waiting until the number close to get "I have a boyfriend".

However, if she replies with a "no" but doesn't run away, or she replies with a "no" accompanied by laughter, I would then it is worth a try

 

[ProblemSolving]

Replace street with class and you have summed up partially my example. Though, bantering was done throughout some weeks to build attraction and comfort as in these situations one wrong move and every girl in class wouldn't look at you.

Except this is social circle game where you have time and repeated exposure that allows the girl time to decide if you're the better option. This is how most relationships work. Like the old saying goes, "Women are like monkeys, they don't let go of one branch until they have a firm grip on the next." With cold approach, she doesn't have time to get a firm grip on you, so she holds onto the old one.

But you do bring up a very good point and that is the importance of Comfort. Lately, my approaches have been rushed due to the environment I've been approaching in. Often, I've had to shoot for the number close after less than 5 minutes of conversation. In the future, I'll go back to my old MO of slowing things down and making sure I have a solid conversation before number closing.

 

[ProblemSolving]

Have you ever tried opening with: "are you single?" When I do this, a lot of girls give me a straight-up "no" and walk away really quickly. Good because then you're not wasting effort or waiting until the number close to get "I have a boyfriend".

However, if she replies with a "no" but doesn't run away, or she replies with a "no" accompanied by laughter, I would then it is worth a try

I agree this would screen girls very quickly and efficiently, but it's only really feasible in high traffic environments where you can really play the numbers game.

Another alternative is something introduced by Good Looking Loser, where you keep holding the girl's hand after you introduce yourself and see how long before she tries to pull her hand away. According to him, if a girl is sexual unavailable, she'll pull her hand away quickly, while sexual available girls will roll with it. I'll give it shot and see how it goes.

 

[Dern]

Another alternative is something introduced by Good Looking Loser, where you keep holding the girl's hand after you introduce yourself and see how long before she tries to pull her hand away. According to him, if a girl is sexual unavailable, she'll pull her hand away quickly, while sexual available girls will roll with it. I'll give it shot and see how it goes.

Good way to build sexual tension as well. Take her hand, hold it, and look deeply into her eyes.

 

[ProblemSolving]

Good way to build sexual tension as well. Take her hand, hold it, and look deeply into her eyes.

Field tested it last night - works like a charm.