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Building the lifestyle of a Dan Bilzerian or something close to it.

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I know it doesn't get talked about as much but what are ways that guys can start building that long term lifestyle of having quality friends that will help you get hot girls and meet lots of new attractive women while also meeting lots of hot girls without having to rely on cold approach anymore.

Like if a guy has enough money and is single, how does he even start?
 

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I often think about this. He has a great interview with Joe Rogan and tells a little bit on how it works. We can make some educated guesses on how he started and try to reverse engineer it:

  • 1. Have money, and by that I mean $10-25m*
    2. Plan a travel/party/event with some close friends, document it well and post on social media
    3. Use it to increase a little bit your reach
    4. Reach out to interesting people on Instagram
    5. Plan a travel/party/event slightly bigger, document it even better
    6. Repeat
* I did some research and trying to estimate how much money you need to have a lifestyle like his minus the extravaganza (the jets, armored military trucks, tanks, .50 cals, etc) I'd say it's around $10-25m. You can make it work with less, but I don't think you can be truly independent, e.g. not care about other people's opinion and do it year-round.

You said "assuming you have the money," but that part can't be ignored, in my opinion, because you have extremely limited time and you'd have to make some hard decisions during your 20s and 30s to make it work (unless you play pro ball or some shit).

Realistically speaking, you must have that money by the time you're 35-40 because it gives you enough time to enjoy it without children or a wife. So, do you:

  • Work like a mad man in your 20s and 30s to be able to afford that lifestyle or spend money now to live life a bit?
  • Dial down severely on the standard you are aiming for to be able to afford it?
  • Focus on girls now and money later or money now and girls later?
  • Work in a field that pays good money or in a field that gives you great connections?
  • Think about marrying and having children or staying single forever?

This is just food for thought and things I think about. I don't really know the best answers to these questions and I'm looking forward to y'all thoughts for added perspective, tbh.
 

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Consider this level of hours, or more

This was from your old post

OP, Everyone

Now that Franco mention it, :D

Here's a glimpse of the "work" that i somewhat went thru to give ppl the assumption of that lifestyle. MY school time is a great reality that i am going to share:

Schedule Lookalike of a 'Dan Bilzerian' lifestyle in a smaller scale for GC ppl:


Mon-Fri:

8-9am - 1pm-4pm: School (replace this with job)
4-5pm - 6-7pm: Activities of Hobby Club/Frat/etc (replace this withbuilding up your social circle/clubbing/etc)
8pm -11pm: Project/Job/Business (replace this with online dating/side business/emails)
11pm -1am: Youtube/Girlschase/Personal Time

Weekend:

Sat:

6am-12noon: Sleeping
12noon - 1pm: Preparation
2pm - 6pm: Events/Dating/Cold Approach/Social Circle/
7pm - 8pm: Dinner
8pm - 10pm: Events/Dating/Cold Approach/Social Circle/Clubbing
10pm - 12am: Events/Dating/Cold Approach/Social Circle/Clubbing/


Sun:

6am - 8am: Sleeping
8am - 9am: Preparation to go events
11am - 4pm: Social Circle Building
6 - 7pm: Family Time
7pm - 12am: Rest Time

It's a LOT OF WORK!
How you get laid is basically in between all this schedules and add 5 hours due to LMR/she being crazy/cockblock/etc, if you lack fundamentals, game and social circle. That's how hard it is.


Zac
 

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Big Daddy

I've listened to that interview more than enough times, it is epic.

There is the drawback, most of the good paying fields are full of traditional men that either get married young after college or they are full of the raging feminazi crowd (eg: the tech industry). A lot of the traditional industries aren't exactly full of the player types, that kind of guy is rare and often hated by a lot of the men in it who want him fired. Everyone is trying to put on the clean family man best neighbor in the suburbs act, its depressing but it is what it is.

The other flaw is that with your method of expanding your reach, you're going to get a lot of low quality people and freeloaders, so how are we avoiding those types?

Who says you have to be married by 40 though? I don't think that necessarily needs to happen at any age tbh, you can be single throughout your 40s and live that life IMO.

I think the one key thing that will matter is how you find like minded men to go on that journey with since you will need that. For that I am posting a separate thread based on my experience this past weekend.
 

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Wait, what is your point? I couldn't tell from your post where you are trying to go. There were two parts to my post:

  • 1. first I say more-or-less what he did (close-ended), and
    2. I raise up some questions regarding some choices that you have to make during your 20s (open-ended) to be in that position by your mid 30s (Dan's age).

In my mind, we're discussing #2 here. I think we agree you are going to need a lot of money to consistently live a lifestyle like his. Then the real issue is finding the balance between earning money now or later, and by logic, focusing on girls now or later. (You can't go out 6x a week and work in two bars and have a regular job at the same time.)

I guess you could make a point that you can substitute "social value" for money for in that equation (though money can help you with that too), and focus on being the bartender and working on your network now and still arrive at the same place by the time you're 35. I was just making a point that to me it seems easier to just go for the money.

I'll try to address some points you brought up, though:

most of the good paying fields are full of traditional men that either get married young after college or they are full of the raging feminazi crowd (eg: the tech industry). [...]

I didn't get what you were trying to say. Do you believe it's better to focus on advancing in a field that pays good money that you can then use to meet girls? Because then we agree here.

I raised those questions to discuss the balance of making money vs getting girls, e.g. is it worth accepting a job offer that pays an absurd amount of money to be the senior director of an oil rig in a remote location vs getting a slightly above average income in a cool city?

Money seems to scale better for me, but I'm completely open to hearing arguments against it. Franco, on the other hand, said he could always build an empire in his 50s and would just rather earn a decent income now and live life. I think that the #1 thing to be discussed.

The other flaw is that with your method of expanding your reach, you're going to get a lot of low quality people and freeloaders, so how are we avoiding those types
It's not "my" method, it's what he says he did on different interviews haha

You're not growing your following to invite nobodies, but to have such status that you can invite Steve Aoki and he shows up (actually happened). If you have 20M followers and everyone is talking about your parties, you can reach out to Instagram models with 100K followers and tell them to bring their friends, they will. After a while you have a network full of cool people.

Who says you have to be married by 40 though? I don't think that necessarily needs to happen at any age tbh, you can be single throughout your 40s and live that life IMO.

Well, nobody, but I think it's for the best to consider the possibility and plan accordingly; if it ever happens, it's going to be in your terms. A lot of shit can happen in 10+ years: you can get a girl pregnant, get in an accident, discover you have cancer or just realize you actually want to be with a kid full-time.

In any case, it still doesn't change the fact that you're gonna need a lot of money by your 40s. And just like $1 this year is worth more than $1 next year, time today is worth much more than time tomorrow (or 10 years from now). So you have to finely think about how you're gonna spend your time.
 
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