Byronism doesn't work in real life.

[Avalanche]

I'm not trying to act Byronic. I'm naturally Byronic. Which is not a very good thing IMO. Because I don't think women like Byronic men. Or may be they can't understand a Byronic man because they are dumb. Women are pretty dumb in real life situations. I think everyone would agree with that. A girl might say she has read Wuthering Heights five times and every single time she cried. But in real life that same girl won't give a shit about a real life Heathcliff. And the reason IMO, as I said before, they either ignore these men or they're too dumb to notice one. *sigh*

Got anything to say about this fellas?

 

[Fuck This]

Hmmm well a Byronic hero is :"a man proud, moody, cynical, with defiance on his brow, and misery in his heart, a scorner of his kind, implacable in revenge, yet capable of deep and strong affection"

What about this is attractive to any woman except as a "fixer-upper" project?

It is, to my way of thinking, the basis of the Hank Moody character in Californication.

That is not an attitude that attracts people across all backgrounds. Does a mindset like this really make you happy?

 

[Avalanche]

Oh gee thanks a lot. That's all I wanted to hear. I get it now. So Chase basically wrote those articles to make fun of men like me, huh?

 

[Smurf]

What Byronism basically pertains to is a nice guy with an edge. Not necessarily that you are bipolar but balancing healthy traits with a few not so healthy ones. Everyone has traits they're not proud of: egotistical, moody, maybe a bit dark in personality. The point is to embrace the faults and not to hide them. Makes you more of a dynamic character in the game of life.

Jake.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Knock off you toxicity Avalanche.

Your not having problems with women because you have Byronic traits that girls are too stupid to recognize/appreciate. Your having problems because you are a negative person that isn't any fun to be around.

I have a host of Byronic flaws and women find it such a fascinating thing to unravel the mystery as to why I am the way I am and why I behave differently than most men they encounter. When I'm in a social circle setting the girls in the social circle chase me just to learn why I am the way I am, even if they have boy friends.

Byronism is not your problem.

I would look further within and learn why you are bitter and address that instead. https://www.girlschase.com/content/most-important-thing-becoming-lover-women-dont-be-bitter

-Rob

 

[Avalanche]

Knock off you toxicity Avalanche.

Your not having problems with women because you have Byronic traits that girls are too stupid to recognize/appreciate. Your having problems because you are a negative person that isn't any fun to be around.

I have a host of Byronic flaws and women find it such a fascinating thing to unravel the mystery as to why I am the way I am and why I behave differently than most men they encounter. When I'm in a social circle setting the girls in the social circle chase me just to learn why I am the way I am, even if they have boy friends.

Byronism is not your problem.

I would look further within and learn why you are bitter and address that instead. https://www.girlschase.com/content/most-important-thing-becoming-lover-women-dont-be-bitter

-Rob

I'm not really toxic. Well I probably was in the past. But not now. I just started going to university last week. And my new friends think I'm a fun guy. I know they like me. But no female friends yet. I've never really had a personal conversation with a girl, ever. There are some really cute girls in campus, obviously younger than me. I'm 22 now. But I don't know what to do.

As for you Rob, since you're byronic, can you please tell me a bit about yourself? What are your Byronic traits Rob? What makes you different from other men, that women find fascinating? What is your image? Do you look at every girl who walks past you in the eye with a smile? How do you behave in front of others in general. Smooth? Warm? Brooding? or cold? Do you always wait till girls approach you first? When they say Hi, how do you respond? In a warm way or a in brooding way?

Now that you've said, women are really attracted to bryronism, I just wanna know how it works out in real life. So then, I can figure out what's wrong with me.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Now that you've said, women are really attracted to bryronism, I just wanna know how it works out in real life. So then, I can figure out what's wrong with me.

Great you sound much better, I can work with this.

You asked a lot of questions there but I'll be brief and give you an idea if you think that will help.

Particularly in a traditional college social circle setting I'm somewhat of the cool/edgy outsider of the group. I'm told I'm pretty intimidating to meet as I have perfect posture and mannerisms and a powerful aura of self-confidence that a lot can't relate to. I've also been told I'm arrogant and view myself as superior to other people because of my confidence. I' also told I'm very mysterious, even after being in a social circle for 6+ months. Nonetheless I'm very warm when people actually meet me and I really get to know people which lets them see me in a more comfortable light but still fear/respect me for my unduly level of self-assurance.

My vibe is serious, stoic at times, and cynical/angry at times. Girls I'm around sense this and compare me to the other 10 guys in the social circle (or guys that have approached them recently) and see a chasm between the two and can't help but be curious as to why I'm so confident socially and speak with such power, why doesn't he ever look happy yet he still makes me feel happy, and why does he always show up late by himself or with another girl of the social circle?

Thus they have at least try to find out why I am the way I am and what caused me to be like that. So they chase. Even the girls who have boyfriends, girls who are not attractive and know they don't have a chance with me, and girls who are most attractive in the group. People are just genuinely curious. Guys to I should say. People just see that I'm different, not because I try to be different I just am in the way I dress, interact, and communicate.

Its hard for me to give you a "how to" on being byronic. Chase has 2 articles I'd start there if you really want a breakdown.

Oh with regards to approaching girls or not. If its social circle girls approach me. I'm typically warm but not always. When I'm out and about I approach girls I think are cute. Pretty simple.

But lets move on to this:

I've never really had a personal conversation with a girl, ever. There are some really cute girls in campus, obviously younger than me. I'm 22 now. But I don't know what to do.

I'm curious why you chose to focus on byronic traits (a somewhat advanced topic) when you haven't had all too much experience talking to girls. Sounds like you have byronic traits and you find that women aren't responding positively to you because you have these traits.

What exactly happens when you meet and interact with women that gives you the impression that your byronicism is hurting you with girls? Perhaps if you give us examples of whats happening we might be able to point you in a more promising direction.

-Rob

 

[Avalanche]

Now that you've said, women are really attracted to bryronism, I just wanna know how it works out in real life. So then, I can figure out what's wrong with me.

Great you sound much better, I can work with this.

You asked a lot of questions there but I'll be brief and give you an idea if you think that will help.

Particularly in a traditional college social circle setting I'm somewhat of the cool/edgy outsider of the group. I'm told I'm pretty intimidating to meet as I have perfect posture and mannerisms and a powerful aura of self-confidence that a lot can't relate to. I've also been told I'm arrogant and view myself as superior to other people because of my confidence. I' also told I'm very mysterious, even after being in a social circle for 6+ months. Nonetheless I'm very warm when people actually meet me and I really get to know people which lets them see me in a more comfortable light but still fear/respect me for my unduly level of self-assurance.

My vibe is serious, stoic at times, and cynical/angry at times. Girls I'm around sense this and compare me to the other 10 guys in the social circle (or guys that have approached them recently) and see a chasm between the two and can't help but be curious as to why I'm so confident socially and speak with such power, why doesn't he ever look happy yet he still makes me feel happy, and why does he always show up late by himself or with another girl of the social circle?

Thus they have at least try to find out why I am the way I am and what caused me to be like that. So they chase. Even the girls who have boyfriends, girls who are not attractive and know they don't have a chance with me, and girls who are most attractive in the group. People are just genuinely curious. Guys to I should say. People just see that I'm different, not because I try to be different I just am in the way I dress, interact, and communicate.

Its hard for me to give you a "how to" on being byronic. Chase has 2 articles I'd start there if you really want a breakdown.

Oh with regards to approaching girls or not. If its social circle girls approach me. I'm typically warm but not always. When I'm out and about I approach girls I think are cute. Pretty simple.

But lets move on to this:

I've never really had a personal conversation with a girl, ever. There are some really cute girls in campus, obviously younger than me. I'm 22 now. But I don't know what to do.

I'm curious why you chose to focus on byronic traits (a somewhat advanced topic) when you haven't had all too much experience talking to girls. Sounds like you have byronic traits and you find that women aren't responding positively to you because you have these traits.

What exactly happens when you meet and interact with women that gives you the impression that your byronicism is hurting you with girls? Perhaps if you give us examples of whats happening we might be able to point you in a more promising direction.

-Rob

Well Rob, nothing really happened yet. But I'm getting quite desperate right now. Since I've never had any woman in my life, now I'm yearning for attraction more than ever. But again as I've never even flirted with a girl, now I have too much things to do for a 22 year old. I have to start from the ground up. I have to start from somewhere, just don't know how.

Btw, another thing to ask Rob, how do women outside your social circle respond to your Byronism? For an example, women you meet walking down the streets, in shopping malls and etc?

 

[EQuintana1515]

What happens next I gotta know

 

[Zoro]

I’m wondering if you’re getting a little too hung up on the whole byronism thing. You might be better off starting with improving your fundamentals (fashion, posture, voice tone, etc,) trying the newbie challenge, and/or start with the basics of game.

I don’t think it’s meant to be a full style of game, but rather a perspective on how your “defects” can be leveraged in your game. That’s more intermediate/advanced stuff, and if you don’t think you’re there yet, then give it a little thought but then set it aside for later.

A big reason why Rob’s got such powerful presence and mystique is the contrast between his Byronic traits and his very attractive fundamentals, plus his experience and knowledge in social situations.

Work on the latter and the former will shine for you.