Calibration issues.

[DarkKnight]

Hey guys,

I'm increasingly having some calibration issues.. or I am getting increasingly more aware of them..

Sometimes after I open a girl, or flirt with a girl I can get a creeped out or harsh reaction.. (mind you usually women receive me well.. but this also happens.) Also with involuntary body signals.. like crossed arms, constricted pupils.. the regular bad stuff. so the hostility/coldness at that moment is probably real. Or girls simply do not hook and do their own thing. My usual play then is just to do my own thing and minimalize my own investment but remain normal.. But not really engaging them anymore.

Until the following happens: A day /week later the girl is suddenly super warmed up and good to go. -> I have gotten used to this and have no difficulty calibrating here.

These days however something seem to have shifted.. Either my indirect game has improved or I have become a bit more cognizant. Suppose I talk to a chick 10 minutes ago.. her body basically screams "gtf" out of here.. and 10 minutes later she suddenly is warm again while I was busy doing something else (usually being excellent in something). This throws me out of the loop. Just 10 minutes ago I get the feeling that a set is going to explode in my face.. and right now the girl is starting to engage me. -> It's like playing with fire.

This basically causes me not to know on which signals to trust. The super harsh reaction from a while back or the current reaction.. It's easy to adapt when you havent seen a chick for some time.. but 5 to 10 minutes asks greater calibration and greater awareness. What are your thoughts about this?

I have probably sended more than one girl into autorejection just because of this. I'm losing out for the wrong reasons. Basically I have a gut feeling that I am playing defense and overgaming too much.. after a girls bad signals which already have switched to warm.

 

[Velasco]

This is that mood swing thing Teev has talked about in some articles over at GC (I'll link it here later if I find it. Busy atm). Where he'll throw out an opener (think an observation about something) to test compliance. And if shes not compliant, he'll move on...never getting rejected. Then sometimes you'll find that her mood has completely changed an hour later for whatever reason. Then calibrates to her present mood (didnt matter if she completely ignored him an hour ago).

 

[DarkKnight]

Yep Vel.. that's what I am struggling with... but right now I notice that it is not a matter of hours or days anymore.. but those moods seem to swing faster. I have a suspicion this is caused by increasingly tightened fundamentals/influence on the environment.. I have really improved those parts over the years.... My frame/state control has become super tight.

But I guess I have to take this that no matter how short the interval is... an hour (or in my case 5/10 minutes) I have to go by present mood... This will take some adjusting. Either I have become more perceptive to state shifts or I am affecting the environment faster.. it's one of both.

Incidentally I guess this is an advantage as well.. instead of waiting for a lot of time I can count on state shifts faster.. just have to keep an eye on those damned escalation windows.

 

[trashKENNUT]

but right now I notice that it is not a matter of hours or days anymore.. but those moods seem to swing faster. I have a suspicion this is caused by increasingly tightened fundamentals/influence on the environment.. I have really improved those parts over the years.... My frame/state control has become super tight.

Welcome to a whole another level

I haven't read the whole post for context but here's why most of us guys revert suddenly. You do wonder why do guys who are tough looking end up with "physically unblessed" girls.

Physically, she is responding to you. So you done the first part of mastering fundamentals.

Mastering fundamentals at a mental level is now the second part. Mentally you now have to learn to be patient, not back away if you accidentally scared them off. I guess this is what they say by actually loving women.

Because you see all this shit that women do. IMPT, this is an analogy and it's not verified yet, but I'm pretty sure that I'm on the ball.

z@c+

 

[DarkKnight]

I understand what you mean Zac.. I have to mentally adjust to whatever has changed... I also feel much more control over my environment than ever... It's like suddenly running much faster and having to take care not to hit road bumps.

But this was not a bragging post.. obviously I am fucking up, hence this post.