Can I salvage this emotional cresting gone wrong?

[Mr.Rob]

Okay so I just realized that my last date I went on I crested the emotional wave too soon and killed the intrigue, mystery, and her anticipation of what could possibly have come.

Lesson learned.

In these situations is it possible to reverse this precedent and bad emotional leadership to get her back out and try to close things out?

She's in a class with me so we see each other once a week. She's probably expecting me to chase after her now.

I've already gotten her number and tried to set up one date and she couldn't make it.

I'm thinking it's probably going to be pretty hard to get her back out on a date so I'm thinking I should just move on for the moment, be seen as high status in my class (social proof), stay warm with her and include her in participation with the class and hopefully she'll chase? My thoughts are that she'll wonder wtf happened and wonder that I might possibly be seeing another girl and why I'm not chasing her.

Or be very dominant/persistent and get her back out on a date and not kiss her whatsoever until I get her to a seduction spot?

Though I think with the latter there is going to be a ton of resistance and hard to create the vibe we had originally and I will be automated to BF zone (which I think I've already failed the spot for lol).

Or is there another solution I might be overlooking?

I hate to post about "one specific girl" but I think the challenge will be good to grow from and see what I can salvage.

-Rob

 

[Eric]

You're kind of fucked.

Gotta either go hard or go home, so to speak. Stuff you wouldn't normally have to do.. Low success rate stuff.

1) Walking with her to her car, throwing her up against it and giving her a passionate kiss
2) Get her on another date, she flakes, you tell her she owes you dinner / coffee, she says okay and then you forget about her for a year or two.
3) Start bringing girls to drop you off / pick you up, friend zone the date girl and tell her about your new girlfriends.

Anything you can think of really that a stereotypical bad boy, casanova, or james bond would pull off. These situations are good for experimental data (if you've got the bravado for it).

Whatever you do though, don't be the nice warm dude who is devoid of any modicum of mystery.

 

[Mr.Rob]

You see #1 to me sounds like another episode of emotional cresting/ puts me in the category of "make out guy" in which she knows whats going to happen if she lets me in her car/goes home with me.

#2 yeah I don't have patience for a year or two of nothing.

#3 Not a bad plan but definitely a stretch to if she'll chase, auto reject, or not give two shits either way.

What about #1 throw her up against her car and not kiss her just get real close and build sexual tension and tell her "I'm not going to kiss you".
Then persist in us going on a date/her coming to my house right away. Hopefully that'll turn her on enough that she'll get lusty.

Thanks for the reply Eric,

Anything you can think of really that a stereotypical bad boy, casanova, or james bond would pull off. These situations are good for experimental data (if you've got the bravado for it).

I'll keep this in mind.

-Rob

 

[Eric]

You see #1 to me sounds like another episode of emotional cresting/ puts me in the category of "make out guy" in which she knows whats going to happen if she lets me in her car/goes home with me.

#2 yeah I don't have patience for a year or two of nothing.

#3 Not a bad plan but definitely a stretch to if she'll chase, auto reject, or not give two shits either way.

What about #1 throw her up against her car and not kiss her just get real close and build sexual tension and tell her "I'm not going to kiss you".
Then persist in us going on a date/her coming to my house right away. Hopefully that'll turn her on enough that she'll get lusty.

-Rob

They aren't SUPPOSED to work, they are low success, I'm just throwing ideas out there. If you were to do #1 it'd be if you never escalated to kissing in the first place, OR you did but then you'd need to escalate in the car right there right then, and have sex during the day. "let's chill and talk about stuff... in your car"

Honestly though, I use #2 as part of my process for flaky girls. There's quite a bit of them in my area (california).

Meet a girl -> setup date -> she flakes -> #2 -> move on to a different girl

Sometimes, it can take months, sometimes it can take years. Sometimes they will flake on you 5 times, but then they'll text you out of nowhere for a booty call. It's really odd, to be honest. A girl flaked on me 4 times, I found another girl and was sleeping with her for a bit. We broke things off, and the next day that girl who flaked texted me out for a date.. Girl ended up being my girlfriend for 5 months (a lingerie model hue hue hue).

You can ping them after awhile too, "Hey __, sorry I kind of disappeared, things have been a bit hectic lately", "Hey, sorry I disappeared my life got a little crazy, how about that coffee?"... and they'll most likely not respond, but when you start meeting A LOT of flaky women you start having a lot of phone numbers you can ping all at once. I texted about 15-20 of them a month back and I got 3 dates out of it.

I've tried the whole turnaround so many times... what you were talking about (let's say #4). Where you try and turn things around by not escalating until the last minute, after a failed escalation, but by that point they are on turtle mode and won't let you escalate. The resistance is epic and you've gotta manhandle everything you do, it's annoyed and not pretty. I stopped doing it because it just doesn't work, I do #2 instead.

 

[Mr.Rob]

A girl flaked on me 4 times, I found another girl and was sleeping with her for a bit. We broke things off, and the next day that girl who flaked texted me out for a date.. Girl ended up being my girlfriend for 5 months (a lingerie model hue hue hue).

That's quite an interesting situation.

Glad you have 1st person perspective on this situation.

they are on turtle mode and won't let you escalate. The resistance is epic and you've gotta manhandle everything you do, it's annoyed and not pretty. I stopped doing it because it just doesn't work, I do #2 instead.

I could definitely see this being the case.

I'm going to ponder and calibrate your advice best to my situation and make up my mind on the fly depending on how class goes.

Thanks for the insights Eric.

-Rob