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can someone share crazy sexual stories ideas that I can steal (that outdo her obviously)?
 
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can someone share crazy sexual stories ideas that I can steal (that outdo her obviously)?

the intro


if you go on my blog type tales from the club/tales from online, and you can choose stories or take ideas...
 
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the intro


if you go on my blog type tales from the club/tales from online, and you can choose stories or take ideas...
Ok. I read the first story (Tales from the club) and I can not tell a story about a trans otherwise I am giving the kiss of death to myself. Let me explain you the context of why am I looking a crazy sexual story to use it as routine.

Here is, I am using the UMP Alex Lindberg sequence for sexualizing conversations. The sequence starts with a step called "Transition to Sexualization" which use a sexual hoop not so verbally explicit (at least verbally) to make a smooth transition to a deeper sexualization. The hoop does not need to be exactly the one I will mention because the key is the sexual compliance ladder. The hoop he uses almost every single time (because it works perfect for the transition) is:

"What is the craziest thing you have ever done?" (The key is saying it with a sexual tone of voice)

If she asks "what do you mean by crazy?" We simply say "Craziest sexual story"

If she hesitate to tell one. We go first with a crazy sexual story of our own but we have to outdo her because if we tell a crazy sexual story that is not too crazy for her, she can see us with less sexual experience. I find that most crazy sexual stories I had are not that crazy (or maybe I have to think more). Therefore I am asking for crazy sexual story to steal and create a routine for this step.
 

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Ok. I read the first story (Tales from the club) and I can not tell a story about a trans otherwise I am giving the kiss of death to myself. Let me explain you the context of why am I looking a crazy sexual story to use it as routine.

Here is, I am using the UMP Alex Lindberg sequence for sexualizing conversations. The sequence starts with a step called "Transition to Sexualization" which use a sexual hoop not so verbally explicit (at least verbally) to make a smooth transition to a deeper sexualization. The hoop does not need to be exactly the one I will mention because the key is the sexual compliance ladder. The hoop he uses almost every single time (because it works perfect for the transition) is:

"What is the craziest thing you have ever done?" (The key is saying it with a sexual tone of voice)

If she asks "what do you mean by crazy?" We simply say "Craziest sexual story"

If she hesitate to tell one. We go first with a crazy sexual story of our own but we have to outdo her because if we tell a crazy sexual story that is not too crazy for her, she can see us with less sexual experience. I find that most crazy sexual stories I had are not that crazy (or maybe I have to think more). Therefore I am asking for crazy sexual story to steal and create a routine for this step.

use the teevester stuff (he is the best at this, sexualizing) his basic one is the 8 orgasms....
 

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use the teevester stuff (he is the best at this, sexualizing) his basic one is the 8 orgasms....
I use Teevster sexualization material but his stuff is complicated and I find many times his stuff non necessary to pull off, at the other hand I find UMP liendberg sexualization sequence very structured, step by step, systematic with contengency plan included and easy to do it in every interaction (plus He uses the same sequence over and over again, it seems like he found the magic bullet sequence).

At the other hand the 8 type of orgasm sequence depends a lot about how you pull off that shit since girls are focusing more on subcomunication and how passionate you talk about it. I find Teevster stuff great stuff but I find there are easier ways of sexualizing conversation and getting results and the evidence of that other way I found is UMP Liendberg sexualization sequence, I think that guy is a fucking genius.

Maybe is a lot possible that UMP Liendberg learned sexual game directly from Teevster stuff or indirectly since I know Teevster is the pioner of sexualization. But I find the liendberg sequence so simple and works very smooth in almost every interaction without needing to change the step.

Here is the UMP Liendberg sexualizing sequence. What I like about this is how simple and short is the sequence and accomplish most of the goals of sexualizing which are primarly turning on women (sexual arousal), setting a sexual frame and therefore indicating you are sexually confident + sexual prizing (teevster stuff). The sequence accomplish the 3 goals and is also simple and short:

Step 1: Transition to sexualizing
Sexual compliance ladders - "What's the craziest thing you've ever done?"
  • If she gives a sexual reply to that question, tell a sexual story but be sure to outdo her.
  • If she gives a non-sexual reply to that question, go ahead with a sexual story of yourself regardless but preface it with "It's pretty explicit... you sure?"
    • This could mean that her compliance levels aren’t that high yet. You can increase them by going first (Reciprocity compliance trigger)
    • This could mean that she’s not sure how to respond to the question because you haven’t set a sexual frame yet - indicative of platonic subcoms.
***Here is where I am stuck by the way. I dont have any crazy sexual story, that is why I am asking here

Step 2 Deeper sexual hoops

2.1 You love having your hair pulled
  • If compliance - Reward + Next hoop [5.3]
  • If non-compliance - [LCT] By the right guy of course.
2.2 - You love to be choked
  • If compliance - Reward + Assume pull
    • Example: Perfect. We're gonna have so much fucking fun later
  • If neutral
    • Most likely a variation of "I don't know, I've never had it" = "I can tell you'd really love it."
    • When compliance - do the same as [If compliance] right above.
  • If non-compliance - [LCT] By the right guy of course.
    • This will trigger a yes-response.
    • Reward that yes-response + Assume pull just like above
STep 3 Pull.


Since it is easy to pull off. It is easy to escalate fast and filter Time wasters fast, at the other hand with Teevster stuff, many "time wasters" get engaged in sex talk with Teevster sex talk so you can't filter them easy.

I find that a lot of "time wasters" are very comfortable about talking about dirty sex but secretly not planning to have nothing sexual with you, so if you start using sex talk gambits you could spend hours talking dirty sex talk with a time waster. At he other hand UMP liendberg sexualization sequence do not waste too much time with sex talk but the sequence make more emphasis on testing sexual compliance and dealing with contingencies, so I find the sequence very strightfoward. Plus since the sequence is a routine, you do not waste mental energy trying to be creative in a verbal jujutsu as the Teevster stuff.

In summary I find teevster as the pioneer of sexual game (or sexualization) and I honestly would give him a nobel prize for it (for being the pioneer of it) but I do not find his way the best way or effective way to sexualize
 
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I use Teevster sexualization material but his stuff is complicated and I find many times his stuff non necessary to pull off, at the other hand I find UMP liendberg sexualization sequence very structured, step by step, systematic with contengency plan included and easy to do it in every interaction (plus He uses the same sequence over and over again, it seems like he found the magic bullet sequence).

At the other hand the 8 type of orgasm sequence depends a lot about how you pull off that shit since girls are focusing more on subcomunication and how passionate you talk about it. I find Teevster stuff great stuff but I find there are easier ways of sexualizing conversation and getting results and the evidence of that other way I found is UMP Liendberg sexualization sequence, I think that guy is a fucking genius.

Maybe is a lot possible that UMP Liendberg learned sexual game directly from Teevster stuff or indirectly since I know Teevster is the pioner of sexualization. But I find the liendberg sequence so simple and works very smooth in almost every interaction without needing to change the step.

Here is the UMP Liendberg sexualizing sequence. What I like about this is how simple and short is the sequence and accomplish most of the goals of sexualizing which are primarly turning on women (sexual arousal), setting a sexual frame and therefore indicating you are sexually confident + sexual prizing (teevster stuff). The sequence accomplish the 3 goals and is also simple and short:

Step 1: Transition to sexualizing
Sexual compliance ladders - "What's the craziest thing you've ever done?"
  • If she gives a sexual reply to that question, tell a sexual story but be sure to outdo her.
  • If she gives a non-sexual reply to that question, go ahead with a sexual story of yourself regardless but preface it with "It's pretty explicit... you sure?"
    • This could mean that her compliance levels aren’t that high yet. You can increase them by going first (Reciprocity compliance trigger)
    • This could mean that she’s not sure how to respond to the question because you haven’t set a sexual frame yet - indicative of platonic subcoms.
***Here is where I am stuck by the way. I dont have any crazy sexual story, that is why I am asking here

Step 2 Deeper sexual hoops

2.1 You love having your hair pulled
  • If compliance - Reward + Next hoop [5.3]
  • If non-compliance - [LCT] By the right guy of course.
2.2 - You love to be choked
  • If compliance - Reward + Assume pull
    • Example: Perfect. We're gonna have so much fucking fun later [Segueway into Step 6]
  • If neutral
    • Most likely a variation of "I don't know, I've never had it" = "I can tell you'd really love it."
    • When compliance - do the same as [If compliance] right above.
  • If non-compliance - [LCT] By the right guy of course.
    • This will trigger a yes-response.
    • Reward that yes-response + Assume pull just like above
STep 3 Pull.


Since it is easy to pull off. It is easy to escalate fast and filter Time wasters fast, at the other hand with Teevster stuff, many "time wasters" get engaged in sex talk with Teevster sex talk so you can't filter them easy
^ok sexualizing is NOT ALWAYS NEEDED (most of my lays were physical game for years and some of my lays now are back to physical game, but i always do it anyways as insurance cause i don't want any room for error, i will explain later), and there are different structures, that style ^ is not as lethal as what i suggest you do and field test and a million times stronger than ump...., yes one of the main problems i had with his stuff for years was the transitioning to the stuff, cause the dude has an IQ of bill gates and shit plus he is a phylosopher major so he can talk circles.... Eventually i found a way that is more dumb down (though there are couple of ways to do it)...... baiting is a good way, ex.- I am jealous of you women, is not fair.... She will say why? cause guys can only have one orgasms while women can have 8 types of orgams with the right guy....

if she says: yeah i know! you ask them what they are, cause she is thinking she can orgasms' 8 time...

i personally ask if she has been with a "italian" guy or whatever ethnicity.... and then i say "you know what they say about _____ whatever the background of ethnicity" we just don't like to have sex, we like good sex, cause we have standards i hope you do to... did you know that women can have 8 times of orgasms with the right guy?

and you cont.

Other guys such as gunwitch "i was reading this magazine and they had an article about women being able to have 8 types blah blah".... i personally don't do this...

now eventually you can create an effective way to transition, the reason i don't like ump and why you are gasping for stories is cause you are leaving to much on chance and on her end, this is not much control.... What is the craziest sexual thing you ever done? most women including smart ones are going to goo uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, or she will not want to open up, this is not effective....

then with the is pretty explicit you sure... teevester actually does this, i think is overkill, i personally don't do that, i just go into the stuff...

the other stuff is not as effective to cover the pull as some of the stuff i would recommend you do:

- talk about unfairness to women and judgement (i talk here to them about maddona whore from teevester), this was my go to pre- learning 8 with grandmaster...

- talk about how a lot of guys become creeper and stalkers and some needy before or after sex and are pushy...

- talk about how some guys are posesive and macho and thing women are their property and how you love when women date multiple guys cause that way the appreciate you more cause you get them...

- talk about how part of good sex is chemestry, connection and intemacy vs bang bang thank you man mediocre macdonald sex...

^ if you cover most of this your snl will shoot up, again most of these are not needed but i go 9 out of 10 if i do the above ^, snl or after(if fucked logistics)


again i talk about that here, eventually there are other variations and ways to do sex talk,i personally just use this one but a lot of guys here play with other stuff.... Teevester has a best of here

but you comparing ump stuff (what you described) with the effectiveness of the other stuff done right, is like you figthing a white bell in tae boe with a mma champion...
 

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^ok sexualizing is NOT ALWAYS NEEDED (most of my lays were physical game for years and some of my lays now are back to physical game, but i always do it anyways as insurance cause i don't want any room for error, i will explain later), and there are different ........
My point is that I find Teevster sex talk a waste of time multiple times. I've found it vital in some sets but in most sets; filtering non sexually compliance girls (aka Time Waster) is a more important goal and simple and easy sexualization sequences accomplish that goal more effective than teevster sex talk. As I said before a lot of time wasters are completly comfortable talking about dirty sex talk and do not show resistance even when they are not planning to do anything sexual with you but you inmidiately filter those girls (who do not show resistance with sex talk) with more escalation. I mean time wasters will show up with the UMP liendberg sexualizing sequence but they will not show up with the Teevster sexualizing material (because lack intent). What I mean is that you filter time wasters with Intent, if you not show intent even if you talk about dirty sexual stuff a time waster could not show up. I also have a high IQ (above 105). In terms of seduction, IQ is less important than the EQ (emotional intelligence). In fact many very high IQ genius are and were very bad with girls and with social skills (daniel goleman have a lot of stories with evidence of many high IQ people struggling with many areas of life) (including myself, a very nerd by nature). I am the type of guy who tend to be logical in everything and that costs to me have problem at socializing. I got into social problems because I follow the social norms in a "letter by letter" way, i am not flexible. Paradoxically not because I am a very Nice type of guy or have fear to break them (not the case, I am actually very narcisistic and individualistic young guy) but because I hold the belief that I am at the top smart guys and always want to win. I cry almost to die when I feel defeated like in any area i want to success. My high IQ wasnt enough (tested above 105 seriously) to getting laids and that fact make me more angry and narcistic and individualistic than I already was. I have realized most women do not like High IQ males (Nerds). I am a type of Confidence Nerd, not a shy nerd, very aggresive one and narcisistic but my point is that I am a fanatic of science which makes me a Nerd and I always tend to access problems from a logical and objectively point of view, that is why I am a nerd. I remember when I was a kid, my father told me that the sun is far away than the moon and I spent that night searching in a book how far in terms of kms are the sun and the moon to get a more accurate vision, that is how I am, that kind of nerd who find boring stuff as interesting and Girls hate that. I got into med school and I realized how much girls hate dating doctor (except when they want a provider), most doctors are nerds and I realized why girls do not like doctors as lovers. In many times I have had to reframe the doctor nerd kind of default frame for girls as "not all doctors are the same" type of frame and putting the frame "look for example, I am a very sexual doctor who like wild sex with hot girls" in order to break their default negative belief about doctors as nice guys since most doctors that girls see are Nice guys. I stopped the medical profession in order to increase my EQ and I am using my IQ as an advance to underrstand my emotions and the emotions of others, the more I walk that path or mission the more I realize how emotions are everything in life and most areas of life: social skills, dating, bussiness, sales, negotiation, happiness etc all these areas work under non logical principles. Yes, some emotions make sense and that is why there is a PUA community but others do not make logical sense and we base on subjetivity. For example, short story that emphizise why many things in lifes make no logical sense and the reseons nerds struggle with those areas is: I am a medical student and I have a professor that said to me "he does not like my attitude" i think that what he wanted to say was "I do not like you because you do not seem too humble for me (humility)". I said to him "does that make me a bad doctor?. It is true, the issue is that I am narcisistic and individualistic but I can save your life with more chances than a non narcissistic and humble doctor. If we think about it "what is the ultimate goal of a doctor?" Save life right? I said to him "Therefore, the attitude does not matter while you accomplish the goal in the best possible way". In summary my point is Attitude is a relative concept (no body knows what is the best attitude to accomplish a goal, i think outcome defines the best attitude but when you do not judge an attitude based on an outcome, then it gets defined by subjectivity, social conditioning, malefic motivations and personal judgments. I got 0/10 pts with that professor despite I did all the theorical exams 10/10 and all because he says my attitude is not the correct one. Now, does that makes logical sense?? It doesnt. The attitude he wants me to assume is based on his own social conditioning and personal judgment because there is no evidence that humility get you more results than narcisisstic. In fact there are evidence that some narcisisstic people have been the more mediatic people in the world by the results they got. This story is an example of how being High IQ and being right can make you struggle and get 0/10 like me and no success in many areas of life where subjetivity defines what is good and what is bad. The solution to this kind of struggle I was having was to increase my EQ, then I started to underestand how prople work from an emotional point of view (not logical any more), why the professor of the story gave me 0/10 pts in my final results by underestanding his social conditioning and personal judgment. I wasnt logical any more. I was empathic even when some part of my brain was telling me "oh god!". In the area of dating is the same, many unfair things happen all the time, things and female behaviors make 0 sense for high IQ guys. Many things in life make no sense, if everything had logical sense Physics had discovered most phylosophical questions and doctors had discovered how not die or at least discovered the cure of cancer. GG!

Physicality have been my worst move and style to get laids. Also physical game is a lose of time in daygame (what I do most)
 
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